Not sure why Fletcher would get the caretaker gig when there are plenty of proven managers out of work like Allardyce, Hodgson and (if we're desperate to have an ex player) Brucey or Hughesy
Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?
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Exactly. Go out and gain valuable experience at so many smaller clubs.
Surely just for 1 game? Anymore than that would be a disgrace
Damn
Why is it silly?
Its not like this happened out of the blue.
He's been wank from the start of the season.
And once we lost to Pool and City in a humiliating way...well, if they didn't start looking then, they really are incompetent.
I'm not saying we should see an appointment straight tomorrow, but if we go in the game against Chelsea with Fletcher then that's fecked up.
Yeah sure the club is just a victim of unfortunate circumstances and there is nothing the board could have done to improve matters
Any competently run club would have seen this situation coming months ago and assessed a series of options in that time including long term appointments and short term interim appointments if required. We are not a competently run clubIn reality a big part of the reason barca appointed xavi is because they are entirely broke
I wonder if they’ll give him the job full time if he flukes his way out of the CL group stage and gets a few positive results whilst regurgitating pre-written statements on MUTV and smiling with the enthusiasm of a North Korean news anchor.
He should be on level 4 at the very least but i'm gonna assume he must've been fast tracked to level 5 Uefa pro if they're gonna give him the role on a temporary basis. But Di Marzio is reporting that Laurent Blanc is also an option.
This post cannot be serious?
We still early in the season IMO we should still aim not just to see the season ends but also have a good winning run of games and see after 10 games where we are exactly we still can go for top four and get through our group stage of the C.L that’s why yes it was late to sack Ole and also you can’t hire an ex player again as a care taker manager!
We should put all the money on the best option available which is Zidane and start big and quickly.
We should put all the money on the best option available which is Zidane and start big and quickly.
allardyce is the manager this board deserves
because they can't offer someone a job until Ole is fired, there's no way around that
and it takes a bit of time to sort out details, even if they've already agreed in principle
and even if it was all ready to go now, the club still wouldn't do it right away as it's terrible PR to overtly go behind your managers back
so appointing an interim means nothing in terms of what has been worked on in the background, or how prepared or ill-prepared the club is for it
Luckhurst started it talking about Fletcher! The guys I mentioned have more track record.
I'm not defending the board, but even if they had Zidane (for example) lined up to come in tomorrow we still may need an interim for Tuesday night as with moving and getting sorted here could still take time. I know we're horribly run but an interim for a week or two is not the end of the world.
Sure, let’s bung Big Sam a few bob.
Depends if we win that game. Might end up in 2 years contract...
Giving the caretaker role to an inexperienced internal candidate is standard. Most clubs have done that.
Getting in has beens like Allardyce or Hodgson to offer them their first ever job at this level would be a completely unprecedented act of self-sabogage.
Fair enough.
I'm just saying....the last time this happened our interim manager overstayed his welcome as we see.
Let's not make the same mistake again.
Lopategui should be brought in if he's a option. Complete non brainer as far as i'm concerned. He has the potential to leave a team behind that would help someone like ten Hag.
Don't disagree with that to be fair. It's quite easy to see us failing to appoint someone for weeks though
I don't give a feck if we win 25 matches in a row with him.
Don't give him the permanent job.
Don't give him the permanent job.
How? By spending the summer spreading nasty rumours about Ten Hag in Amsterdam, or photoshopping anti-PSG tweets from Pochettino?Yeah sure the club is just a victim of unfortunate circumstances and there is nothing the board could have done to improve matters
In reality a big part of the reason barca appointed xavi is because they are entirely broke
You can't force top managers to become available. Simply wishing it to be true doesn't mean it will. Employment availability is an ever-changing and unpredictable status.
Conte was appointed Spurs manager like 1 day after they sacked Nuno. Given that we had just been linked with Conte the week before, it would suggest they had sorted it out pretty quick and had him in place before Nuno was sacked, so it definitely is possible. Indeed we already did this, when Moyes was sacked, LvG was already lined up, same might have happened with LvG and Mourinho, but I forget now. If we've really not been sounding out managers for weeks then it's plain incompetence, though it's plain incompetence in the first place to end up in this position of just having an international break to sack the manager, then sacking him the game after the international break 3 days before the biggest game of our season.
It seems like Fletcher and Carrick are gonna be involved in a interim set up led by someone like Lopategui or Blanc.
If Fletcher is manager for 1 game that is ok.
Anymore than that would be disgraceful
Anymore than that would be disgraceful
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What about Carricky? Phelan doesn't even do any coaching.
This doesnt change much. Solskjaer was their perfect man, their puppit. People need to realise their plan is to find a similar interim manager, and pray to good he does okey so they can offer him a permanent contract. It wont turn around before the Glazers are gone.
he got his extension during the last international breakReally ? I thought they were having talks ?
yeah I know people can be lined up
but even in your example of Moyes/LVG, we appointed an interim
its just super standard and not a reason to come to any conclusion on what has been planned
The level of ineptitude at Utd is staggering.
Signs a new contract October 4th
Sacked November 20th.
Are you confidently saying top clubs have never promoted internal staff for a couple games? Is that the hill you're going to die on?
Yeah, there should be no problem taking the reins domestically. Alan Shearer among other is a precedent for the Premier League allowing that to happen. There was another coach to that was given a grace period to complete his badges. I think normally the limit is 12 weeks.
UEFA tend to be stricter. They've given out touchline bans in the past, including for Dundalks manager who was the one I was thinking of earlier. He was banned from having any function for a few europa league games. (also banned for Molde game)
Anywho, we'll see what happens. Not sure why Blanc would want the interim job unless he think it will become permanent, but he is struggling at his current club.
If it need be, we have other people at the club with a pro license if UEFA decides to be difficult. Think Carrick should have his by now, and that new set-piece coach is the youngest brit to ever acquire a Pro License apparently.
According to some sources there was an agreement in place with Mourinho as early as around Christmas (during one of LVG's worst strings of results) that season.
At any rate, the transition was handled shabbily. LVG felt Woodward treated him like shit - which is probably true.
We're officially the worst run club on the planet. We just wasted a 2 week international break and now this. Did those clowns really think Ole was going to magically turn this around based on the absolute shit show we've had to endure this season.
Help someone like Ten Hag for when?
Why not?
Fletcher is a newbie and from what I understand, he was part of the coaching setup.
We've known for a while now that the coaching is been dreadful.
So, IF, Fletcher is part of the current coaching setup, he should not be the manager. He, Carrick, Mckenna - all should be kept away from coaching duties.
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