Internationals October (Nations League + Euro 2021 play-offs + Friendlies)

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Deschamps will never abandon Griezmann but Mbappe - Martial - Dembele (Ousmane will get his ish together) would be scariest trio in the world (in form.)
This will never happen because as you said, Griezmann does not get dropped but more importantly Martial really isn't helping his chances with those displays. He still hasn't clicked and look a bit lost and isolated. Lacazette might be blacklisted but Ben Yedder show a lot more when called upon. Dembele is the same old story, can he have a run with Barca and be fit when the Euros come around ?
 

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What's lazy is applying a "lazy" stereotype to Grealish because he's a "flair" player, when you'll find, backed up by a whole host of statistics, that Grealish has a great work-rate, both defensive and offensive alike.
I can understand fans who aren't paying close attention falling into this stereotype trap, but surely not a manager paid to know better. He watches a lot of Villa games at VP. God knows what he was doing there if he thinks he's a lazy flair player.
 

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England were shit so no excuses. The ref was really appalling tonight though.

Again, no excuses for Southgate & his shocking decisions, just critiquing a truly hideous refereeing performance.
 

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Did Sancho even touch the ball the whole time he was on the pitch?

Pains me to say it cause I hate the cnut but Rice is quite good..
 

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Dunno, i think we're both not very good honestly
Is Moise Keane ever good for Italy? He seems rubbish. Also, I cannot get over an Italian not having a name that sounds like Peter Griffin speaking Italian.
 

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I agree the manager could be upgraded, but I don’t think we have the defence or midfield to win a tournament. Our best players are all 10s, wingers, strikers & right backs.
Henderson/Graelish/Some defensive clogger is a good enough midfield to win a tournament if they're set up properly. Agree about CB on paper, and LB as well to an extent, but a better manager can set up the team to cover those deficiencies. From the outside as a neutral that's the way it looks to me anyway. I genuinely think this crop of players can win a tournament with the right manager.
 

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Did Sancho even touch the ball the whole time he was on the pitch?

Pains me to say it cause I hate the cnut but Rice is quite good..
Coady rice james had good games
Walker mount phillips were ok.
Rest naff
The ref utter fukin shit.
 

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I thought all Southgate needed to be a successful manager was a trendy waistcoat and soft fixture list. Who could have guessed that bubble would burst?
 

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Did Sancho even touch the ball the whole time he was on the pitch?

Pains me to say it cause I hate the cnut but Rice is quite good..
Moyes knows how to develop players. I think that might be his strong part
and why he does better at smaller teams. In big teams the players are often ready made
and he need to motivate them and find good attacking patterns more than anything else.
 

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Did Sancho even touch the ball the whole time he was on the pitch?

Pains me to say it cause I hate the cnut but Rice is quite good..
I'll be honest, I barely ever watched Sancho for Dortmund. I watched the highlight videos, and the numbers that he put up are without a doubt outstanding. However, having watched him for England and trying to gauge what his game is like, I don't think he would have been the transformative player for United that we all expected him to be. Diallo looks like much more of what we need IMO. Sancho reminds me of a more mobile version of Mata, and a wide playmaker isn't necessarily what our team needs to take the step up IMO.
 

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Grealish was motm against Wales then gets given zero minutes to build on that.
 

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I thought all Southgate needed to be a successful manager was a trendy waistcoat and soft fixture list. Who could have guessed that bubble would burst?
The problem is it isn't really going to burst. He'll be kept on through thick and thin because he's a nice yes man who doesn't rock the boat.
 

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Joao Felix might have lost his starting spot to Diogo Jota after tonight

Game against France in the next international break will be incredible if France come with the mindset that they need to win the game.
 

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Is Moise Keane ever good for Italy? He seems rubbish. Also, I cannot get over an Italian not having a name that sounds like Peter Griffin speaking Italian.
He's usually decent, he's just not a very good player yet. He's lively and plays his arse off though

Also, what the feck was the second part of that post :lol: (and yes i know about mustachioed peter griffin speaking "italian")
 

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I'll be honest, I barely ever watched Sancho for Dortmund. I watched the highlight videos, and the numbers that he put up are without a doubt outstanding. However, having watched him for England and trying to gauge what his game is like, I don't think he would have been the transformative player for United that we all expected him to be. Diallo looks like much more of what we need IMO. Sancho reminds me of a more mobile version of Mata, and a wide playmaker isn't necessarily what our team needs to take the step up IMO.
Keep living in fantasy world.
 

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FA need to sack this joker before it's too late. Experimenting late at this stage with all these shitty defensive tactics. He should know by now with all the attacking options we have what the best set up is and the best eleven when available. He's been in the job for over 4 years, next year will be a total write off and a waste of another tournament guaranteed with him in charge.
 

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Even the Spanish media made a meal out of it. Tbf I think they re exaggerated it a bit
The Spanish media talking about the NT, Real or Barca is like the English media talking about Pogba. Similar to England with all caps and exclamation point headlines across the whole front page.
 

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He's usually decent, he's just not a very good player yet. He's lively and plays his arse off though

Also, what the feck was the second part of that post :lol: (and yes i know about mustachioed peter griffin speaking "italian")
I dunno, Italian is a cool language and all your players have those classy opera sounding names. And then there's Moise Keane..
 

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FA need to sack this joker before it's too late. Experimenting late at this stage with all these shitty defensive tactics. He should know by now with all the attacking options we have what the best set up is and the best eleven when available. He's been in the job for over 4 years, next year will be a total write off and a waste of another tournament guaranteed with him in charge.
You can’t really blame him when you see what Maguire done tonight he can’t trust his defenders, so has to play defensive. Ole will do the exact same come Saturday..

Aw, just seen you’re wan o them..
 

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Just my thoughts mate, no need to get snarky :lol:
You’ve seen Diallo playing in the u18 league. Sancho was probably the best u18 player in the world in that age group and has the awards to prove it. Then he comes and put up numbers only bettered by Neymar, Messi and Mbappe in Europe’s top 5 leagues in his first two years as a senior pro.

You're an optimist if you think Diallo is going to top that.
 

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I am so disinterested in these England matches. Who are we playing today and when heck did we play Wales ?
 

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FA need to sack this joker before it's too late. Experimenting late at this stage with all these shitty defensive tactics. He should know by now with all the attacking options we have what the best set up is and the best eleven when available. He's been in the job for over 4 years, next year will be a total write off and a waste of another tournament guaranteed with him in charge.
Why the feck he's decided to compeltely change our approach and formation (to one that doesn't remotely suit us no less) with less then a year left before a major tournament is anyones feckin guess.
 

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I never wish my teams to lose but considering this is the National league or whatever - I just hope we get thrashed soon so the FA realise that Southgate has reached his mark.

I am so excited about the english national team because it's the first generation that has fully pushed away the importance of physicality and resembles something more closer to technical abilities of a player.

Mount over Grealish? Like why? I've got nothing against Mount, hes a useful player but Grealish can self dominate teams to a way that Mount cant.

The fact Southgate took so long for Grealishs debut says enough.

Why not play Kalvin Phillips in a back 3 like he does for Leeds instead of these other defenders who end up further out in the field than they should be - that's the role of Phillips, not walker or Maguire or Coady.
 

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It's only 25 days till the next International break. This year is really taking the piss at this stage.
 

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Oh dear God :lol: He plays crap you call him out. Captain or no captain. Am I a United fan :lol:
Nobody's arguing that he's playing crap. He is seriously out of form and has been affected by the events of the summer imo. Which is why we should get behind him, not kick him while he's down. I could understand if he wasn't our player but he is and he's also our captain.
 

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I never wish my teams to lose but considering this is the National league or whatever - I just hope we get thrashed soon so the FA realise that Southgate has reached his mark.

I am so excited about the english national team because it's the first generation that has fully pushed away the importance of physicality and resembles something more closer to technical abilities of a player.

Mount over Grealish? Like why? I've got nothing against Mount, hes a useful player but Grealish can self dominate teams to a way that Mount cant.

The fact Southgate took so long for Grealishs debut says enough.

Why not play Kalvin Phillips in a back 3 like he does for Leeds instead of these other defenders who end up further out in the field than they should be - that's the role of Phillips, not walker or Maguire or Coady.
We're stuck with Southgate until we flop at the Euros. He's a the type of Yes man that the FA love. He'll be hard to get rid of.