Not just killing a senior general but doing it at an international airport of another sovereign nation.
Iran v US confrontation
- Thread starter 4bars
- Start date
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
How's Nasrallah feeling right now?
Last edited:
Yeah just seems so reckless. The UK best not get involved in Trumps warmongering
If we had elected Corbyn then I would feel safe and secure. The fact we have elected Boris (Trump 2) fills me with fear. He's a cowardly, racist cnut who will blindly follow the USA no matter what.
The pressure within Iran to retaliate will be massive
It's incredibly reckless and what many feared from the beginning with Trump. Iran misjudged how he'd respond (because he's an unstable moron) to the attack that killed the contractor and then the orchestrated attack on the embassy.
It's terrifying because we know there's no effective, normal process for handling this in the White House or at the upper levels of State. It's all centered around an irrational moron of a man and how he's feeling at any given moment.
I’d like an answer to this.
Targeted strikes on AQ, ISIS, etc. are against non-state actors. This guy was definitely NOT that.
What consequences this will have world wide I don't know but what I do know is that the killing of Suleimani is going to ignite a full out war within the region. Iran US tensions have been ongoing for a very long time and it had already escalated with the sanctions. Now Trump thought it would be a good idea to kill one of Irans most powerful generals in Suleimani.
Irans economy is already in shambles and they won't doubt for a second to go to war. They have only been waiting for the US to make a move that would let them. Well it's safe to say US have now made that move. I predict nothing but a result of calamitous proportions and there is honestly a chance that this strike in particular could ignite a third world war depending on which countries get involved.
The irony is that all of this is the long-term result of the UK begging the US to overthrow Mossadegh to protect their oil interests in the first place.
It definitely doesn't fall under the 2001 AUMF.
Russia is one of Iran's strongest allies, the thought of the US going to war with Iran is crazy, but here we are...
It's an act of war surely?
It is truly crazy but it's been in the making for a long time. War in the middle east has been ongoing for years and the US have been heavily involved. Was only a matter of time before something like this happened. I'm not sure why Trump thinks going to war with Iran is a good idea, going on about their nuclear weapons and such bs.
A third world war will be the end of the universe as we know it.
And this is what the moron tweets out:
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
I'm not sure it's intended to provoke a war, but there's a good chance it will provoke a strong response from Iran. For the US to be able to take out Soleimani and other Iranian proxies so effectively and quickly, it has to be unexpected and chastening for Khamenei. To save face, he can't let it go without response though. Will it be attacking US forces in the region? Shutting the Strait of Hormuz? If it had been a lower level figure, there's a chance Iran could let it go having learned its lesson, but Soleimani is far too valuable to let it go without response.
100%. More troops from Iran is probably being sent over as we speak and there will be retaliation from their part that's a fact. What that will later escalate into no one can tell for certain but what we do know is that it's on now and there will be disastrous consequences.
In agreement with what you said I'd like to add that his overwhelming popularity as a leader will have a bwaring on the response.
I have a nasty feeling that it is Trump that has miscalculated here as well as Iran
I think it depends on how the protests over the last month in Iran impacted public opinion on Iran's foreign interventions. While he's very popular with a large portion of the population, I doubt the people who were protesting and risking their lives are that bothered--other than his death potentially further entrenching the regime. I'm sure there's a large gap in public opinion between older and younger Iranians. The whole reason to wait, rather than trying to force regime change, with Iran is that the younger population is huge and will likely push for liberalization on its own in several years. Forcing a conflict likely sets that tipping point back years.
It will definitely have to respond strongly to appease the hardline public and to save face internationally. I don't know how long they could maintain it with pre-existing unrest domestically.
Don't worry, miscalculations have never led to huge wars or anything.
You wrong, people on power want to be in power a war with US which the military would have full control without politicians interference would be a fatal error for Iran’s leaders, they will use terrorism but they already know they lost the plot. Iran is messing around the region for too long, Bush and Obama stopped Israel to attack Iran in several occasions (destroying the “civilian” nuclear facilities) and now is too late because they may have some nuclear weapons and the West doesn’t want other nations around getting nuclear weapons.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Seemingly the only Republican who's worrying about the repercussions of this so far...
Even Babelfish can't translate this gibberish.
Could well turn out this way. Hard to fathom the US having misconceptions about a step so drastic, but they have messed up too much in recent decades, and with Trump's posse anything is possible anyway. It's now for Iran's leadership to react, and we may soon see what their leverage in the region really is (and isn't), possibly including the Hezbollah-Israel theater.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Is there still a CIA outpost in Beirut?
Eunuchs were pretty good at statecraft.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
I stopped caring what Graham has to say about anything -And so should everybody else. He s just noise.
Why was Suleimani in Iraq?
Another impeachable offence?
Trump must like to collect them like parking tickets.
I'd ask him, but...
No need to ask him; I’m asking you
Okay. Well, good luck with that. Im not in the Iranian military.
I’m also struggling to see what that has to do with my post.
Well I guess I’ll be driving my wife to Chicago in May.
You have no idea of the relevance of my question?
I’ll ask again; why was he in Iraq?
Sightseeing or official business.
Will you just make whatever point it is you’re trying to make?