That makes no sense. If Iran hit again then he can hit back with far greater force. It certainly looks to me that Iran fear and escalation and are trying to compromise here. It depends on if there are any US casualties but Iran losing their top military guy vs the US losing some equipment, who is the winner in that exchange?
I could see Iran playing this trick on a country with a weaker military like one of the gulf states but it's much harder to see the benefits if they apply this to the US as 1) the US military can strike within 24 hours on multiple key sites inside Iran with unmatched precision and power with minimal risk of loss of life, 2) it would take Iran a lot longer to put enough pain on the US to counter such strikes, and 3) an absolutely insane narcissist controls the buttons to the US strike force. Iran knows that Trump is crazy enough to start another Middle East war if doing the opposite makes him look weak and/or hurts his ego and/or hurts his re-election chances.
An engine fire shouldn't be a problem.
Point being that Trump lets Iran retaliate with last nights hit because it was minimum impact to US and naturally he can’t help but mouth off in the press how he’s in charge of the situation now and he had Iran’s word on a truce of sorts.
why ? An engine fire is major problem, nobody has a clue what happened yet, Concorde , Manchester Disaster both engine fires.
I don't think Iran are going to hit them again though, could be wrong but any rational person can see that its a game they cannot win especially with a loose cannon like Trump in charge. The US just killed one of their top guys, the hierarchy in Iran will have twitchy arses right now.
I don't think that is the Iranian regime's main motivation (in other words, I don't think they are scared). I think Iran knows they have an opportunity to swing world opinion against the Trump administration and American involvement in the ME and that by not escalating further, their case becomes stronger on the diplomatic front.
Can't help but feel like this is basically true. Much like when Trump fired a few missles at that Russian airfield in Syria after a spat, which was conveniently evactuacted just before and back in operation the next day.
Nah the missiles were nowhere near the aircraft.
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Hopefully they're not as childish and don't see it as a 'game' to 'win'. It's that kind of egotistical boys with toys approach that causes escalation.
I think so too, I think Trump wants this "war", military contracts need to be fulfilled and it all starts with a new oil field found in Iran. This "War" wont last long but I do fear that we will see an uprising in groups such as ISIS, these are perfect recruitment opportunities for it.
Weapons contracts and the discovery of a massive new oil field, hell yeah its worth it, Trump followers lap up this "Hooo Haaaa" shit, he is also thinking of re election. Do you really think America's allies in the ME give a shit about Iraq or Iran when there is the possibility they will get richer?
How would shooting down a Ukrainian Passenger plane hit back at the US though?
America's whole economy depends on the petro-dollar, and that requires their presence and involvement in the region, under whatever guise.
It wouldnt but it would be highly damaging to them in their own country. Having said that from what I understand the missiles were being fired miles away from this aircraft so it's highly unlikely to have been anything related. Could be wrong though.
No not the US but their allies, especially Saudi Arabia would happily take control. Trump targeted the second most power full man in Iran for a reason, for a reaction. I am sure you are aware of the hostile relationship between Iran and Saudi.
I don't think so either, these ballistic missiles are based on old soviet scud missiles, the ones from the previous Gulf war. They are surface to surface missiles and by all means Iran has done very well to develop them to go over 1,000KM even if there accuracy can be some what questionable. The chances of on of these hitting a plane is incredibly small, it would be a complete one off as these missiles take off vertically.
Unless the U.S goes and does it herself, it's just not possible as Saudi just doesn't have that capability.
It will be drones that Trump will deploy, hard to detect, incredibly effective and accurate. If they can take out the second most powerful man in Iran over an airport they can take out pretty much anyone day or night. It also gives his friends at the weapon manufactures the contracts they crave. Warfare has changed massively sine the last Gulf war.
Not a chance. Lets look at some facts.
I think we will see how this pans out, I don't have as much faith that Trump would go to all this bother just to deescalate 2 weeks later, makes absolute no sense. Like every other war in the middle east it is about oil and military contracts and now the tech gap between the 2 militaries is bigger than ever.
I'm not denying the US capability to have total air dominance over Iran, that'll happen within a few weeks of war starting at most. I'm questioning it's overall effectiveness. Mullah Omar died of ill health reportedly in a hospital in Quetta, Pakistan - 11 or 12 years after the US started hunting him. He organised the resistance against them for a decade. Did taking out Saddam or other top baathists stop the resistance in Iraq? Do you think taking out an Ayatollah or ten is going to stop Iran?
I am aware, but then why would Trump did what he did? His reasoning of taking out Soleimani? People are talking like this man was a nobody. The next few weeks will see how it pans out but you can say what you like about Trump but her usually does do what he says he is going to do.Not a chance. Lets look at some facts.
1. KSA don't have the manpower to win a war in Yemen, against Iranian backed rebels.
2. KSA asked America to defend it against Iran.
3. KSA remained silent against a recent drone based bombing of oil fields, although it blamed Iran.
4. KSA has a significant shia population. There will be enough amongst them, loyal to Iran due to religious afilliations to create an insurgency in Saudi if they sided with Iran.
Iran has a huge landmass. Take a look at this;
That's 4 times the land mass of Iraq. Imagine the force required to keep a hold of that territory. Also it's mostly mountains, think to how difficult moving in Afghanistan is for NATO forces.
Of course not, but does anything throughout recent history suggest that the warmongers in the American government think like you or I. We know these wars do nothing but recruit the radical fundamentalist groups, I'm sure they are already using the "murder" of Soleimani as propaganda. The 2 wars in Iraq and the 1 in Afghanistan really done very little to change much I agree but I honestly don't think that's of any concern or would stop another dick swinging war, I'm not suggesting this will be a "World War 3 scenario".
Add the fact that Iran Geography would make it a nightmare for infantry operations. No one will be crazy enough to invade a country where parents are proud if their sons or daughters become martyrs.Not a chance. Lets look at some facts.
1. KSA don't have the manpower to win a war in Yemen, against Iranian backed rebels.
2. KSA asked America to defend it against Iran.
3. KSA remained silent against a recent drone based bombing of oil fields, although it blamed Iran.
4. KSA has a significant shia population. There will be enough amongst them, loyal to Iran due to religious afilliations to create an insurgency in Saudi if they sided with Iran.
Iran has a huge landmass. Take a look at this;
That's 4 times the land mass of Iraq. Imagine the force required to keep a hold of that territory. Also it's mostly mountains, think to how difficult moving in Afghanistan is for NATO forces.
Because he's been impeached and he's terrified that it's going to cost him the 2020 election. When America is at war, people vote for the incumbent President. More and more evidence is coming to light and it's likely that more impeachment articles are going to follow too. In that case, we're going to learn more and more about his corruption with new evidence backing it up. The Republican's will continue to protect him as best they can but eventually more and more swing voters who might have voted for him will be sick of the circus and either vote Democrat or stay at home. This is all a huge distraction from that.
This is a remarkably naive take on the situation. I’d like to know what ‘new oil field’ merited such a disruption in global politics.
There are planes landing and taking off at Teheran airport as we "speak" and most of the passengers were Iranians. Terrible coincidence and timing, but it's a dream come true for conspiracy theorists.
Oh I totally agree, but your agreeing with me that he wants a war?
