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Just have to say, the money which Pogba and Sanchez have ripped from United is a bloody disgrace. Neither of them give a damn about the club. Hope to see the back of them soon.
If Pogba goes we defo need to get him in. You have to remember we need to replace Herrera, Fellaini, Pogba, Matic, Lingard and Perreira.I honestly think its made up and even if he did come, I' m not sure he would start as the no.10. Bruno was clearly bought for that role. Pogba will leave, but I feel it would be for a player who actually plays as a box to box midfielder or a deep lying playmaker, not another no.10.
I personally feel that if you have two hard working CM's or CAM's you can get away with playing them both in the same team in a 433.. you need to compress the pitch and play with a high line and a good amount of pressure on the ball, but there is no reason why you cant make it work.I honestly think its made up and even if he did come, I' m not sure he would start as the no.10. Bruno was clearly bought for that role. Pogba will leave, but I feel it would be for a player who actually plays as a box to box midfielder or a deep lying playmaker, not another no.10.
You honestly think you will get over £100 million for him?I for one am kinda looking forward to the club getting a 100 million plus fee for pogba and investing it on a DM and Grealish to get our midfield sorted for good.
In another Era pogba could have had a Cantona like impact for us but at this point of time, he seems like a luxury.
Not to mention he must be on crazy wages. Regardless of quality, if his heart ain't in it and Madrid come calling with a decent offer, then it won't be the worst thing in the world.
We have to go on who we currently have and what he has done in the past. Ole has mostly used a 4231 with us and when he does switch up, we play a 3412. That leaves one spot for a CAM and requires two CM's behind him who have to perform defensive duties. We are not, have never been and will not be Man City. It may be a nice idea if Poch came in, but the truth about it is, even he would put one of the two on the flanks roaming inside like he did with Eriksen. Only a few managers in the world can play the way you asking for and have their team dominate. Fergie stuck with what he knew for the most part, tweaking and adapting a little bit, but keeping the core principles. We cannot expect Ole or Poch to be as comfortable as Pep in playing two attacking midfielders in midfield.I personally feel that if you have two hard working CM's or CAM's you can get away with playing them both in the same team in a 433.. you need to compress the pitch and play with a high line and a good amount of pressure on the ball, but there is no reason why you cant make it work.
If one of them is a bit lazy or your not compact enough, the CDM will get overrun in the middle so it is a fine balance.
Coutinho went for like over 120, Lukaku just went for 70-80 or so... so yeah he's over 100m if anyone wants him, unless a contract thing comes into play. Real Madrid will pay it though, especially with them fully backing Zidane now.You honestly think you will get over £100 million for him?
Yes those players need replacing, but none of the players we are buying will be on the bench either. Grealish is not a player with the capacity to play in a two man midfield. Bruno is not a player that you want playing there either even if he can. No point buying a player then trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. We have gone through this for years, why put ourselves in a position to do this again. You are right that we need new players in midfield, but what we really need in midfield is a guy that can dictate play for us, Grealish is not that guy. I would love him here as a winger as he has great dribblling ability and is rather creative, but if we already have Bruno, why waste that money in him we have so many more things to improve on.If Pogba goes we defo need to get him in. You have to remember we need to replace Herrera, Fellaini, Pogba, Matic, Lingard and Perreira.
Yeah, a 100 million at least.You honestly think you will get over £100 million for him?
They can't afford both at once. I don't think Mbappe is going to leave any time soon.If he's not at Real Madrid next year with Mbappe, I'll eat my hat.
Pobga has basically done nothing of note for at least 3 years - at least nothing of note in domestic football. If anything his value has decreased rather than increased if you ask me - with inflation and so on I'd expect him to go for anything between 70-85million and he wouldn't be worth it.Coutinho went for like over 120, Lukaku just went for 70-80 or so... so yeah he's over 100m if anyone wants him, unless a contract thing comes into play. Real Madrid will pay it though, especially with them fully backing Zidane now.
£50m for Grealish would be a bargain he can play in a 3 man midfield with a DM holding.Yes those players need replacing, but none of the players we are buying will be on the bench either. Grealish is not a player with the capacity to play in a two man midfield. Bruno is not a player that you want playing there either even if he can. No point buying a player then trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. We have gone through this for years, why put ourselves in a position to do this again. You are right that we need new players in midfield, but what we really need in midfield is a guy that can dictate play for us, Grealish is not that guy. I would love him here as a winger as he has great dribblling ability and is rather creative, but if we already have Bruno, why waste that money in him we have so many more things to improve on.
Saying Pogba ‘doesn’t give a damn about the club’ is without any real basis tbh. He’s joined us twice, and there’s nothing to suggest that if we were not a mid table side, he’d be fully contented to be here.Just have to say, the money which Pogba and Sanchez have ripped from United is a bloody disgrace. Neither of them give a damn about the club. Hope to see the back of them soon.
He had his best goal scoring season last year so I dont get where you are getting this about him not doing anything. He's been injured this season and his first season him and Zlatan formed a very good partnership.Pobga has basically done nothing of note for at least 3 years - at least nothing of note in domestic football. If anything his value has decreased rather than increased if you ask me - with inflation and so on I'd expect him to go for anything between 70-85million and he wouldn't be worth it.
The sad truth. People believing we're going to get £150 million, or whatever, for him are deluded.Pobga has basically done nothing of note for at least 3 years - at least nothing of note in domestic football. If anything his value has decreased rather than increased if you ask me - with inflation and so on I'd expect him to go for anything between 70-85million and he wouldn't be worth it.
You might, but I suspect you are in for disappointment.He had his best goal scoring season last year so I dont get where you are getting this about him not doing anything. He's been injured this season and his first season him and Zlatan formed a very good partnership.
We will easily get £120m for him.
Pogba is still a very marketable player. That comes into play as well. His on-field worth might be £80m but his off field worth is £40m odd too.You might, but I suspect you are in for disappointment.
Again, that means you value him no higher than Romelu fecking Lukaku, which is ridiculous.Pobga has basically done nothing of note for at least 3 years - at least nothing of note in domestic football. If anything his value has decreased rather than increased if you ask me - with inflation and so on I'd expect him to go for anything between 70-85million and he wouldn't be worth it.
Ok let me clarify - he has done nothing of note to suggest he is worth anything like £100million.He had his best goal scoring season last year so I dont get where you are getting this about him not doing anything. He's been injured this season and his first season him and Zlatan formed a very good partnership.
We will easily get £120m for him.
I agree, in all honesty, he has mostly been disappointing since we brought him back, much much more bad/anonymous games than he has had good games.Ok let me clarify - he has done nothing of note to suggest he is worth anything like £100million.
Not a chance. Pogba has nowhere near the self belief Cantona had. Cantona had an aura of invincibility and was a scorer of important goals whereas Pogba hides during every important game. Pogba's just a poser in my opinion.In another Era pogba could have had a Cantona like impact for us but at this point of time, he seems like a luxury.
What a load of bollocks. Hides during big games? I guess the world cup final and the Manchester derby never happened then? I’m not going to list every big game he’s played well in, but people just make shit up at this stage.Not a chance. Pogba has nowhere near the self belief Cantona had. Cantona had an aura of invincibility and was a scorer of important goals whereas Pogba hides during every important game. Pogba's just a poser in my opinion.
Correct, I can agree with that. He has not shown why he is worth that but as we know with footballers these days, the value doesn't represent the players worth.Ok let me clarify - he has done nothing of note to suggest he is worth anything like £100million.
He literally scored in a world cup final. Strange view.Not a chance. Pogba has nowhere near the self belief Cantona had. Cantona had an aura of invincibility and was a scorer of important goals whereas Pogba hides during every important game. Pogba's just a poser in my opinion.
Sure, but he's nowhere near Cantona in terms of importance for us. Completely carried the team a lot of times. In a lot of 1-0 games he made us win instead of drawing. Pogba might have good games, but he's so on and off. Oddly he's sometimes most off in the small games, maybe its a focus thing.What a load of bollocks. Hides during big games? I guess the world cup final and the Manchester derby never happened then? I’m not going to list every big game he’s played well in, but people just make shit up at this stage.
You should. It wouldn't take long. For us, anyway.What a load of bollocks. Hides during big games? I guess the world cup final and the Manchester derby never happened then? I’m not going to list every big game he’s played well in, but people just make shit up at this stage.
Yeah I think your right actually. It doesn't make sense to change how you want to play, unless thats what you want to commit to playing indefinitely.We have to go on who we currently have and what he has done in the past. Ole has mostly used a 4231 with us and when he does switch up, we play a 3412. That leaves one spot for a CAM and requires two CM's behind him who have to perform defensive duties. We are not, have never been and will not be Man City. It may be a nice idea if Poch came in, but the truth about it is, even he would put one of the two on the flanks roaming inside like he did with Eriksen. Only a few managers in the world can play the way you asking for and have their team dominate. Fergie stuck with what he knew for the most part, tweaking and adapting a little bit, but keeping the core principles. We cannot expect Ole or Poch to be as comfortable as Pep in playing two attacking midfielders in midfield.
No idea but it's worth remembering that players and agents get money through extensions too. A part of the caf somehow has the idea that it's only a thing with transfers, signing bonuses are big in both cases and neither are directly linked to the transfer.Anyone knows how much Raiola will be expected to pocket from another Pogba transfer?
He’s missed a few big games for us with injury suspension tbh. But he’s had many good performances or made a positive impact in a few. A fair few, considering on a field of the best players in the league, he’s not expected to be the best player in every match.Would also like to see this list
He done it in the second 45 vs City (he was brutal in the first 45) and had an impact in a few of them games in the World cup.. But talking for United only, no he hasnt performed anywhere near the level he should be vs the better teams. Maybe in a couple just, but in the majority of them he didnt have much impact.What a load of bollocks. Hides during big games? I guess the world cup final and the Manchester derby never happened then? I’m not going to list every big game he’s played well in, but people just make shit up at this stage.
I don't really keep score on these type of things but from memory there is 3 or 4 games against Chelsea, a couple against Spurs, the comeback against City and he has been generally good against Arsenal. We haven't really played a lot of important games in the last few years though.He’s missed a few big games for us with injury suspension tbh. But he’s had many good performances or made a positive impact in a few. A fair few, considering on a field of the best players in the league, he’s not expected to be the best player in every match.