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This is quite likely actually. Only RM or Juve would be interested but after this season and 'the injury' would anyone pay what we'd ask? Not sure.No one will buy him.
This is quite likely actually. Only RM or Juve would be interested but after this season and 'the injury' would anyone pay what we'd ask? Not sure.No one will buy him.
Well his defensive contribution is terrible, so that leave AM, which is what I said he should be. He is a liability at CM.Pogba has never been a player taht controls the game, so how can it be his role? Not all midfielders are Xavi like, most aren't.
Where did I have double standard? I never called Pogba a virus or anything of the sort.De Gea did exactly the same and no one came out and called him a virus. Why is there a double standard?
He isn't a liability in midfield, that statement is nonsensical since we have seen him in midfield for far better teams than us, playing at the highest level. Just look at who is around him and ask yourself if they are doing their share of the job at a high standard? Which of our player is good enough to start for the best teams, which of them is good enough to start for a 2015 Juventus?Well his defensive contribution is terrible, so that leave AM, which is what I said he should be. He is a liability at CM.
He was in airport ready to sign for Madrid after running down his contract but him not saying infront of camera is all that matters?Where did I have double standard? I never called Pogba a virus or anything of the sort.
But aside from that, you say DDG did exactly the same, can you find him on camera telling the world he wants to move on? I've never seen that but I saw one with Pogba.
In my opinion there is a big difference in conducting your business quietly and sign for another club or trying to force your way out by making public statements via your agent, your brother or "entourage" or yes, even by yourself on camera. If you feel differently then that's fine by me.He was in airport ready to sign for Madrid after running down his contract but him not saying infront of camera is all that matters?
De Gea wanting out was very much public, only difference was he didn't tell that himself.In my opinion there is a big difference in conducting your business quietly and sign for another club or trying to force your way out by making public statements via your agent, your brother or "entourage" or yes, even by yourself on camera. If you feel differently then that's fine by me.
Okay, let me rephrase in general, that why is Pogba's situation any different from De Gea's? De Gea may not have come on camera to say he wanted to leave but Pogba was only answering a question when he was asked, and he has since, through his agent, said he wants to stay.Where did I have double standard? I never called Pogba a virus or anything of the sort.
But aside from that, you say DDG did exactly the same, can you find him on camera telling the world he wants to move on? I've never seen that but I saw one with Pogba.
You don't know that. Contrarily, time and time again, the one place that we know Pogba has requested to me transferred to is Madrid. Secondly, Pogba has abundantly stated that he is happy to be here, he has referred to Manchester as his home, and speaks near-perfect English. As for reading meaning into his performances...really??De Gea was always respectful. He was the best keeper in world and wanted to return home to Spain, having been our player of the season more than once. Very few really begrudged him that move. Apart from Ed and his fax machine.
Spain, Italy, France. It doesn’t make any difference to Pogba. He just doesn’t want to be here, hasn’t for the past two years and has been happy to let it be known in interviews and through his performances on the pitch.
What a weird post.Sooner this disruptive fecker is gone the better.
sick of the circus.
Slightly more productive, per annum than Lingard
So you are saying that fans are being unforgiving to Pogba and thus are prejudiced which means he is not given a fair assessment in this situation. So basically, Pogba has done nothing wrong and the problem is with the fans who are not being reasonable.De Gea perfomed on the pitch in a way Pogba has never come remotely close to, so of course fans are going to view him in a different light and be more forgiving when he wants to leave. It's not different standards, it's different situations and contexts.
Absolutely, just speculation fed by lazy click bait journalism.Can we close this thread until some news actually comes along, this thread and the performance thread basically have the same posts over and over again.
I agree and it shows how far we've fallen in terms of quality and depth of our squad. If Pogba stayed or left and we replaced him with someone like Grealish, either player would have an increase in output as there's now Fernandes who will contribute also.He is amazing but to me the key point here is that De Bruyne and Silva each play with an other great playmaker, their presence allow more space and time for the other because the defense can't focus on just one. And that's only from center midfield.
Always injured trying to low his price with the fat pizza man as a directorComplete myth that he’s a virus or bad influence within the club.
Faking an operation, that’s some good faking.Always injured trying to low his price with the fat pizza man as a director
disgusting
I hope Pogba stays I truly do and his celebrating especially against PSG showed he’s a fan of United. We all know that but...You don't know that. Contrarily, time and time again, the one place that we know Pogba has requested to me transferred to is Madrid. Secondly, Pogba has abundantly stated that he is happy to be here, he has referred to Manchester as his home, and speaks near-perfect English. As for reading meaning into his performances...really??
But will we? If we get say £100m, will Woody and the Glazers make all of that and whatever is in the budget available for new players?I hope Pogba stays I truly do and his celebrating especially against PSG showed he’s a fan of United. We all know that but...
I don’t know where you’ve picked up on these super positive interviews that he’s happy to be here?
Our manager has handled him atrociously this season though I might add so I can’t blame it all on Pogba. Absolutely clueless and so are us fans about his intentions in the summer.
Either way United win. We sell, we get money to strengthen properly. Keep and we have a quality player who ‘maybe’ is loyal.
Spain, France?De Gea was always respectful. He was the best keeper in world and wanted to return home to Spain, having been our player of the season more than once. Very few really begrudged him that move. Apart from Ed and his fax machine.
Spain, Italy, France. It doesn’t make any difference to Pogba. He just doesn’t want to be here, hasn’t for the past two years and has been happy to let it be known in interviews and through his performances on the pitch.
It was Solskjaer who said that Fernandes came out of the summer budget. Also, if we sell Pogba for £100m, then we will have approximately £120m/£130m to spend this summer - the club can't afford a positive net spend of more than £20m-30m, without drawing from its cash reserves. That is why Pogba is as good as gone - we need the money.But will we? If we get say £100m, will Woody and the Glazers make all of that and whatever is in the budget available for new players?
let’s say hypothetically we’ve got £100m in the summer “war chest “ ready to spend, providing that (I can’t remember who) some journalists are incorrect in reporting that the Fernandes buy came out of the summer kitty, then that would give us £200m to spend, quite some amount there but do we really think that will all get spent on reinforcing the team? and in a summer when there is a major tournament? when it would appear Woody can only do 1 deal at a time?
Unfortunately I’m sceptical as feck.
Glazernomics. Shocking.It was Solskjaer who said that Fernandes came out of the summer budget. Also, if we sell Pogba for £100m, then we will have approximately £120m/£130m to spend this summer - the club can't afford a positive net spend of more than £20m-30m, without drawing from its cash reserves. That is why Pogba is as good as gone - we need the money.
Remember we are also selling Smalling, we need a resolution on Henderson/De Gea* and we should be selling one of or both Jones and Rojo; all that should give us another 60m which should make the available sum closer to 200m. Personally I think we need to move on from the Pogba issue and rebuild with players that want to be here for the long run, its not his fault as I feel that he has been unfairly targeted by the media whilst his fee has raised expectations that he isn't able to meet on a consistent basis in a highly dysfunctional group. The players we need are a DM, a playmaker and a right sided forward. If we play our cards right we should be able to get those three positions sorted.It was Solskjaer who said that Fernandes came out of the summer budget. Also, if we sell Pogba for £100m, then we will have approximately £120m/£130m to spend this summer - the club can't afford a positive net spend of more than £20m-30m, without drawing from its cash reserves. That is why Pogba is as good as gone - we need the money.
Romano says that Raiola told him Pogba feels Italy is his second home and he wants to go back after the Euros.
I agree.It’s may be an exaggeration, but I don’t think it’s far from the truth. He will be 27 in a few weeks, and he still isn’t a consistent performer. I think that would be acceptable for someone with half his talent, but more often that not, he is sub-par and frustrating for United. We forgive it because he pops up with a bit of genius every so often, but he hasn’t justified his wage or his transfer fee.
He obviously has a high opinion of himself, but he hasn’t really achieved anything in the game to have that opinion. Yes, he has won a World Cup, but so has Giroud. At club level, he was fortunate to be in a world class Juventus side with no real domestic competition.
Truly great players elevate their teams, and he has everything. He has tremendous vision, great ability on the ball, he is athletic and strong and he is an intelligent footballer, but he seems incapable of stringing it all together and seems to need a very specific role to play well.
People defend him, but his attitude stinks. To not even go up to Burnley and watch his teammates, and to instead choose some charity match in France is disrespectful in the extreme.
People excuse him of his behavior and Raiola because of the player he has the potential to be, but the player he is, isn’t worth all the heartache he inevitably brings.
Sell him, and get in two players who are driven to perform for United and are full aware of the privilege they have in playing here.