The European Court of Justice has ruled in favour of the European Super League.
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This shite is coming back isn’t it?
Good news, isn't it?
Unless the pl clubs find a way of circumventing pl and fa rules then no, there is no super league without the pl clubs, Bundesliga or the French clubs.
I know I am only one fan, but personally I am just done with football if this happens.
It could probably enable the super league to sue teams that entered and then backed away after fan backlash for breach of contract.
Well, the my have ruled that FIFA and UEFA can not restrict clubs from entering, providing back up to any body saying FA etc can’t block clubs also.
I can see a situation where one fights it then another, FA wouldn’t have a leg to stand on to block them essentially.
No surprise really. You don’t go through with an idea like that unless you’re 100 % sure the law is in your favor. It was the fan backlash that throw the project down the toilet, not any of the empty threats from UEFA/FIFA.
So what's next now?
Exactly.
And given how UEFA have allowed the state backed clubs to do as they wish I don't think the backlash will be that strong when it's next announced. I could be wrong but this is essentially what the Glazers have been holding out for and being in at the start gives them a say in the revenue sharing formula. They have the balls, the resources and the motivation to take the FA and PL to court and win.
But the pl does, also guessing eu court
rules won't have any binding impact on enlgand due to brexit. The pl clubs signed an agreement they won't participate in unauthorized leagues or create them through a charter and the independent regulator rules.
Probably nothing for the time being honestly. I said it in the past but an actual SuperLeague would have to come at the expense of domestic football. You can't just add a 20/30 games competition to the calendar, the CL going from 13 to 15/17 is already pissing players off
Plural?
3-5 years of the new CL format so people get used to it and then return of the ESL I reckon.
Probably the Glazers doing a u-turn and stalling even more then they are now
No way any team with even semi competent set of lawyers agrees to a binding agreement with no get out clauses.
Go ahead and do it.
Nobody will go to or watch the games on TV. See how well it works out.
Nobody will go to or watch the games on TV. See how well it works out.
Good ruling, absolutely nowhere does monopolies make things better.
Wonder if this is why the Glazers are taking so long, to see how this ruling went and see how it plays out
Now that I read more, it seems like UEFA and FIFA cannot block their member clubs from participating in the super league. So clubs have no excuse other than that they jumped the gun in signing up without accounting for fan anger. It’ll probably be a decent settlement.
The PL and English FA could come to PL clubs rescue as they are not bound to European court rules.
Mostly they need to find a way to chip away at domestic football. Give financial incentives to abolish the domestic cups for one thing, and if possible reduce the number of top flight teams to no more than 18. No supercups, no club world cups or other bullshite like that, just 34 league games plus another 30 SuperLeague games or so
And of course the Superleague would *have* to be based on meritocracy. And open to all european FAs. Anything less is going to suffer too much backlash in places like England and Germany to work
But the pl, fa and the government can. No court is going to agree with Perez and co that united or city or liverpool should risk getting punished by the British government to take part in their venture and the government statements and the independent regulator rules do give the pl clubs that defense.
Shock horror, UEFA and FIFA are in the wrong, again.
Won’t be long until it turns into a world super league with the Saudi clubs joining.
Won’t be long until it turns into a world super league with the Saudi clubs joining.
The fans won't move from a corrupt system to a completely and utterly corrupt one.
Yeah I really don't think the clubs the SL desperately wants to join their project have to worry about the SL suing them at this time...
I think there is a chance that the League Cup gets changed or discontinued.
Also can see the following in the next 3-5 years PL wise...
Newcastle and their owners will be more established within the PL, City will have probably gone through their trial by then and if they get kicked out they'll have more incentive to try push it through, wouldn't be shocked if another PL club gets taken over by another state in that time either.
Why would it be more corrupt than what we’re subjected to under UEFA and FIFA?
FIFA were quite happy to royally feck over most leagues in regards to moving the world cup
Because it essentially breaks the football pyramid and just throws in a few sides with football heritage into one competition. That's not what football is about, they're turning it into some overly commercialised bollocks which won't be accepted by fans irrespective of how uefa and fifa are.
The ESL massively intefers with League games, and the PL is our bread and butter. Unless they find a way to create a Super League without watering down domestic leagues it wouldn't work.
Surely English teams aren’t covered by European law anymore?
Or you can pretty much ignore Real Madrid / Barca v Juve / Inter Milan and Ajax like everyone else will??
A lot of people won't. It's like the whole boycotting Qatar world cup all over again.
I guess we won't be kicked out of the CL anymore.
It’ll be more people than you think. La Liga couldn’t even get a tv contract in the UK for El Classico anymore.
This would be like fans getting excited for those pre season friendlies with the big games we see every summer. If there’s no history behind the competition and it’s only about clubs getting paid more money then it’s dead in the water, especially if they’re still allowed to compete in the CL .
Doesn't really matter. La liga made its bed, the PL is where it's at and that's been the case for some time. However Global views would probably be the same or rise with an ESL with all of the social media brainwashed generations getting to see Bellingham vs Mbappe on the regular.
How is it good news? You can't seriously be in favour of this shite are you?
The court decision was obvious from day one. It doesn't change anything.
A super league would be a massive threat to the premier league, so English clubs will never be allowed to join it. Best they're going to do is a super league of Spain, Italy, France or similar.
A super league would be a massive threat to the premier league, so English clubs will never be allowed to join it. Best they're going to do is a super league of Spain, Italy, France or similar.
They are taking so long because they have a fixed price in their minds and, as real estate businessmen, they won't sell until someone matches it or comes very close at the very least. It's a given that being the owners of one of the fifteen clubs with closed contracts in the competition that aims to replace the CL, will help them meet that target. It's not just them, though. I'm sure INEOS are aware of the situation, and it's also one of the main reasons for their interest and their willingness to get involved, even as minority owners at first. After all, there were all sorts of "whispers" suggesting that UEFA doesn't have a leg to stand on legally. They never did, really. Not even when United (among other clubs) were leading one of the first separatist attempts in the mid-90s, which ultimately led to the expansion of the CL in the early 2000s. It may also explain why Qatar's "take it or leave it" tactic was never taken seriously.
Was inevitable, UEFA can't have a monopoly on organising football competitions.