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The Corinthian

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The power we had was astonishing’: ex-soldiers on Israel’s government in the occupied territories
Newly published military testimonies highlight the bureaucratic power of Cogat’s ‘permit regime’ over Palestinians

While the 55-year-old occupation of the Palestinian territories is perhaps the most well-documented conflict in modern history, less well understood is the breadth and depth of the bureaucratic power wielded by Israeli military bodies.
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Cogat’s activities have rarely been studied in depth, and are not subject to independent investigative mechanisms. Along with the direct use of violence, Palestinians and veterans say the military governing body is an integral part of a system of oppression.
“We were told in training that everything we were doing for the Palestinians was basically generous, a favour. We didn’t question the bigger picture, like why there are no decent hospitals in the territories, so people have to travel,” said Carmel, who first served in the Gaza Israeli-Palestinian military coordination office, and then in the restive city of Jenin in the north of the West Bank.
“The army raids your house at 2am and then at 8am you still have to get in line for hours for a permit for the most basic administrative stuff,” he said. “I think that’s something a lot of Israelis don’t realise. It’s not the carrot and the stick, it’s the stick and the stick. It’s the same thing.”
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While putting together the project, Breaking the Silence’s interviewers found that repeated themes began to emerge: the use of collective punishment, such as revoking an entire family’s travel permits; the extensive network of Palestinian agents cooperating with Cogat’s Civil Administration, which governs parts of the West Bank; the considerable influence of Israel’s illegal settler movement on the Civil Administration’s decision-making processes; and arbitrary or baseless blocks on goods allowed in and out of Gaza.
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https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2...-government-occupied-territories-palestinians

Silly newspaper - it won’t move the needle.
 

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Israel arrests PA governor of East Jerusalem in a day of multiple arrests and home raids

Israeli forces led a campaign of arrests in the morning, targeting several areas and homes in the West Bank, with Israeli media indicating that the majority of the arrests were made in the Hebron province.

Dozens of young Palestinian men were confronted by occupation troops in the neighborhood of Khallet al-Amud as Governor Ghaith was detained.

Confrontations between the Palestinians and Israeli forces in the West Bank have been occurring with increasing frequency and violence.

On 29 July, sixteen-year-old Palestinian Nashat Abu Alia was killed by Israeli authorities.

According to WAFA reports, the boy “died of critical wounds sustained by live bullets in the chest,” during clashes near the village of Al-Mughayer, close to Ramallah.

Israeli soldiers opened fire using live rounds, rubber-coated steel bullets and tear gas canisters on protesters, killing Abu Alia, injuring one other, and causing breathing difficulties to several affected by tear gas inhalation.

A few weeks ago, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres said that Israel should be blacklisted if it continues its violence against Palestinian children.

The comment by Guterres was made after the annual publication of the Children and Armed Conflict report, which found that Israeli troops killed 78 Palestinian children, maimed another 982, and detained 637 in 2021.

Since the start of 2022, at least 15 Palestinian children have been killed by the occupation forces, according to the Geneva-based Defense for Children International’s Palestine chapter, the DCI-P.
https://thecradle.co/Article/News/13733
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Don't know how many of you read the links 2cents posted yesterday but i highly recommend both even though they'll leave you emotionally troubled. This one paragraph really stuck with me though and you can replace the crimes mentioned with thousands others in plenty of conflicts.

When crimes are not named as crimes and bodies simply materialize on the ground — whether in the mass grave of Tantura, a Sidon schoolyard, or a road outside of Jiljilya — the perpetrators are left to speak into a void, wrestling with their own demons but not with the structures that continue to perpetrate such violence. It is a deceptive space for reflection and handwringing because there is no absolution without accountability, and no ability to look backwards without justice.
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First meeting in 6 years apparently. Maybe they can come to an agreement so the Palestinians can negotiate with one voice.

 

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Israel currently bombing Gaza. Hearing a 5 year old Palestinian girl has been killed, and a ‘militant’.
 

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The Israeli military says it is attacking targets in the Gaza Strip in response to threats from a Palestinian militant group there.

At least 10 Palestinians, including a child and a Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) commander, have been killed, Gaza's health ministry says.

It follows days of tensions after Israel arrested a senior PIJ member in the occupied West Bank.

The Gaza-based PIJ had threatened to hit back by bombing central Israel.

Israeli Prime Minister Yair Lapid said Israel would not allow "terrorist organisations to set the agenda".

"Let anyone who rises up to harm Israel know that we will get to them. Our security forces will act against Islamic Jihad terrorists to remove the threat from the citizens of Israel," he said.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it was striking sites linked to the PIJ. They include the high-rise Palestine Tower in Gaza City, hit in a loud explosion which left smoke pouring from the building.

Four PIJ militants - including the commander, Tayseer Jabari - and a five-year-old girl have been among those killed since the strikes started, local health officials say.

They say another 55 people were injured.

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I know that Ukraine is white people's Palestine. But original Palestine is getting bombed again. At least 10 dead, including 1 child, and 55 injured.
 

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Were sending arms to neo-nazis defending parts of Ukraine, so why arent we sending arms to the palestinians?
 

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The Corinthian said:
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This is a war that will last. It comes as a precious gift to the Palestinian people and their resistance, and the coming days will reveal shocking and terrifying surprises for the Israelis that will send millions of them into shelters and global isolation.

Hezbollah’s Hisham Safieddine, executive council chairman of the Lebanese resistance movement, recently said: “The resistance has obtained strategic weapons that will break the balance of power, and the enemy’s attempt to prevent their arrival has failed.”

To this he added: “we must be present and not be affected by propaganda media campaigns that want to undermine our capabilities – by the Israeli, US and Gulf media and some of their ‘mignons’ in Lebanon. We will not give up our wealth [natural resources] in our territorial waters,” which means that the gas war is very imminent.

We are facing a war that may have begun in the Gaza Strip, but could, with just one ill-timed spark, transform into a regional war involving many other resistance factions. This comes at a time when western colonialism is facing two major power wars – in Ukraine (with Russia) and East Asia (with China).

Millions anticipating the appearance of Hamas’ Abu Obeida with his red kefiyah may not have to wait long. The Sword of Jerusalem II is in the running to be a much larger and more dangerous confrontation than the Sword of Jerusalem I.
https://thecradle.co/Article/Columns/13967
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this one could lead to a large conflict. the palestinians have been backed into a corner over the years and it's coming close to explosion. there is no more room for retreat on their side and their political representatives know it. will the west back the palestinians? or continue its hypocrisy by stressing the right of the ukrainians to resist by any means necessary but funding the right of israel to colonise and oppress by any means? i'm going to guess the latter.
 

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When will the settler colonial siege of the Gaza Strip end?

By Israeli settler colonial design, this worldview works to render the Gaza Strip as an exceptional space, inhabited by people who do not qualify as human. The Palestinians who inhabit this space become beasts whose very nature is to attack Israel for the sole purpose of destruction, violence, and terror. Thus, Israel can do whatever it pleases to these beasts. Against the terror of the beast, Israel is seen as justified in exploding into righteous anger and even beastliness.

This can be observed in several ways, but one way that stands out is in a seemingly benign form of reporting on the Israeli killing of Palestinians in this latest onslaught.

Just notice below how three prominent news organisations frame the killing of Palestinians. What is remarkable is how these three independent major organisations use the exact same framing. As soon as they mention the brutal killing of five-year-old Alaa Qaddoum, it is followed by Israel’s claim that it also killed “militants” in this operation. It is almost as if they know the reader will be heartbroken and maybe even shaken by the killing of a five-year-old innocent girl, and therefore, the report must immediately remind the reader that Palestinians are militants who deserve to be assassinated. The message being that Israel’s beastliness is understandable given that it is dealing with beasts.

This is the BBC:

“Four [Palestinian Islamic Jihad] militants – including Tayseer Jabari – and a five-year-old girl were among those killed since the strikes started, local health officials say. They say another 55 people were injured. An Israeli military spokesman said the IDF was ‘assuming about 15’ militants had been killed.”

CNN with the same framing:

“The Palestinian health ministry said at least 10 people were killed, including a 5-year-old girl and a 23-year-old woman. Another 75 were injured, it said. Israel insists most of those killed were militants.”

The CBC, always the most eager because the most meagre of the bunch, went further:

“The Palestinian Health Ministry said a five-year-old girl and a 23-year-old woman were among those killed and that another 55 people were wounded. It did not differentiate between civilians and militants. The Israeli military said early estimates were that around 15 fighters were killed.”

Yes, the Palestinian Health Ministry should have clarified for the CBC that the five-year-old girl was a civilian and not a militant. And yes, of course, it is obviously the case that the first question a health professional should ask an injured person and the family of the killed person is whether or not they identify as “militants” in accordance with how Israel and Canada understand the term.

In the three reports, the account of the killings is framed within and through the figure of the “Palestinian militant” which is essentially the figure of the beast. The five-year-old girl in these accounts has no name, and neither do any of the other people killed, except for the main militant – Taysir al-Jabari – the scariest of the beasts whose supposed beastliness comes to mark all of the killed in this reporting. That is the core and effect of this framing, which all three organisations must have accidentally come to share. I’m sure this accidental sharing has nothing to do with their respective countries’ staunch imperial support for Israel.
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full article https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/8/6/the-settler-colonial-siege-of-the-gaza
 

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Who cares? They are not white and blue eyed and blonde. They are not fighting the enemies of the USA or the Western World. Their land has been invaded and occupied not by the nasty commies but the best friend Israel who uses western weapons to massacre and murder the children just in case they become militant when they grow up and try to free their country from occupation.
So why should anyone in Europe or the G7 or NATO do or say anything?
 

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Israeli journalist Gideon Levy has said political motives are likely to be behind Israel’s latest air attacks on Gaza.

“For days we were told that the southern settlements over the border with Gaza must be under curfew because there is a danger – nobody knew what the danger was exactly,” Levy said.

“Gaza can be 16 years under siege and this is bearable, but some towns in the south of Israel cannot stand four days of lockdown,” he added. “I’m very suspicious that it has to do with the elections.”

According to the journalist, Prime Minister Yair Lapid felt the need to “prove himself” ahead of the November elections. “He wants to show that he’s a macho like all former prime ministers,” Levy said.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/live...dates-dozens-killed-in-three-day-gaza-assault
 

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The occupiers supporters are absent for some reason. Maybe having a danger w@nk watching kids being murdered?
 

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Its interesting that there's no apartheid or apartheid equivalent situation in the West Bank because the West Bank Palestinians apparently live under self-governance by their own government.

Do many self-governing people tend to have police and army units of adjacent countries arresting their citizens on their 'self-governing' territory?
 

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According to the BBC 44 people have died in the 'conflict' and the 'days of violence'.

Not according the BBC, all 44 were Palestinian. It's not a conflict, it's a slaughter.
 

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africanspur said:
Its interesting that there's no apartheid or apartheid equivalent situation in the West Bank because the West Bank Palestinians apparently live under self-governance by their own government.

Do many self-governing people tend to have police and army units of adjacent countries arresting their citizens on their 'self-governing' territory?
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You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
 

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Israel should be made a pariah state in the same way Russia is being sanctioned and isolated. Animals.
 

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Rajma said:
Israel should be made a pariah state in the same way Russia is being sanctioned and isolated. Animals.
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In a normal World they would be held to account, but the occupiers pockets are deep and their influence in the Western Governments runs deeper.
 

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2cents said:
I think you’re knowledgeable enough to understand that “Jewish Lobby” is a poor choice of words here.
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pro israeli lobby which looks to undermine any criticism of its actions (including murdering children regularly) as being anti-semtiic, whilst using jewish religious texts to justify its actions.
- there fixed it properly.
 
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