Why are they wearing masks ? Its not as if no one will be able to tell who they are given there are a finite amount of staffers in Congress.
I believe that it will lead to a new generation of terrorists and an even greater threat to Israel.I don't think anyone here is disputing that the last month was a major inflection point that will ultimately lead to the demise of the attackers.
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To me, this all feels a bit like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.Tweet
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Smoke and mirrors. He knows exactly what's going on.Tweet
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Nothing happens in a vacuum and there's always context to every bad situation. You can't say "it's appropriate to condemn the Hamas attacks" after the 7th of October but NOT ask about Israel's brutality and occupation. Life is life and it seems like over the past few weeks that one group of people deserves empathy AFTER another group gets it. The dissonance has been astounding on the internet and in the media and it's why trust has been difficult to come by on either side.The appropriate response would be to condemn the Hamas attacks and acknowledge that the overall existence and practices of Hamas in Gaza has brought all of the death and destruction we are seeing in Gaza today. The Israelis should likewise also be condemned for their "shoot first, think later" approach of bombing the hell out of Gaza, as opposed to a traditional counterinsurgency. They should also be condemned for the appalling behavior of settlers killing and intimidating Palestinians in the WB. Both sides should be apportioned responsibility for their actions, which is a good starting point from which to proceed.
3.8 Billion/year and the best response to a hostage situation is "Let's bomb the hell out of everyone".There, it's not so hard is it And thanks for the backup on here.
If hezbollah didn't know, I doubt that Iran was involved in it
I'm still curious whether you consider cutting water and power, blowing up water reserve tanks, bakeries, fishing boats and ambulances, and bombing hospitals, aid stations and refugee camps, while denying critical aid, self-defense.Tweet
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It's just the logical first step. It makes it easier to agree to peace or permanent ceasefire later, and is much more difficult to reject. It also hopefully makes it slightly harder to continue fighting with the same intensity after the pause if both parties get something they want from it, like civilians back.A pause? Great.
I realize that, however in this case, its easy to identify any of them because there are a small number of staffers in Congress, and most of these guys probably work for Democrats so that automatically narrows things down even further. If a site like StopAntiSemitism or anyone else wanted to identify them they could, in which case why even bother with the masks.Lots of people have been getting sacked in the US for pro Palestinian views or for taking down posters. There's a twitter account that's been posting details on lots of people everyday, asking for people to call their employers and get them sacked. And it's been working. Also the NYT, guardian etc have been waking people for having pro Palestinian views. https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites
A mask is actually a big help - notice how they only post people without a mask. With a mask on its far harder to match someone to their online profile. Not a foolproof protection but much better than being unmasked.
They're not getting sacked for their Pro-Palestinian views. They're getting sacked when they end up diving into a deluge of antisemitism and hate-speech. And ripping down posters of missing people does not make you Pro-Palestinian. That points at something far darker.Lots of people have been getting sacked in the US for pro Palestinian views or for taking down posters. There's a twitter account that's been posting details on lots of people everyday, asking for people to call their employers and get them sacked. And it's been working. Also the NYT, guardian etc have been waking people for having pro Palestinian views. https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites
A mask is actually a big help - notice how they only post people without a mask. With a mask on its far harder to match someone to their online profile. Not a foolproof protection but much better than being unmasked.
While I share your view generally, the poster you're responding to said that Israel should be condemned for its settler violence and expulsion of Palestinians in the West Bank. He has not ignored Israel's brutal occupation.Nothing happens in a vacuum and there's always context to every bad situation. You can't say "it's appropriate to condemn the Hamas attacks" after the 7th of October but NOT ask about Israel's brutality and occupation. Life is life and it seems like over the past few weeks that one group of people deserves empathy AFTER another group gets it. The dissonance has been astounding on the internet and in the media and it's why trust has been difficult to come by on either side.
No, they're getting sacked for saying anything other than "Israel is justified in blowing up Palestinians", which is the mandated view in most of the western world.They're not getting sacked for their Pro-Palestinian views. They're getting sacked when they end up diving into a deluge of antisemitism and hate-speech. And ripping down posters of missing people does not make you Pro-Palestinian. That points at something far darker.
Why are you lying?They're not getting sacked for their Pro-Palestinian views. They're getting sacked when they end up diving into a deluge of antisemitism and hate-speech. And ripping down posters of missing people does not make you Pro-Palestinian. That points at something far darker.
Nope, no they're not.No, they're getting sacked for saying anything other than "Israel is justified in blowing up Palestinians", which is the mandated view in most of the western world.
I'm not.Why are you lying?
Under certain circumstances, yes, it is. And international law can allow for it. Whether these circumstances apply in all cases at the moment, I don't know - they probably don't. But I will accept they do in someI'm still curious whether you consider cutting water and power, blowing up water reserve tanks, bakeries, fishing boats and ambulances, and bombing hospitals, aid stations and refugee camps, while denying critical aid, self-defense.
Plenty of people are losing their jobs. I won't say millions, as I have no basis for numbers.Nope, no they're not.
Otherwise millions of people would be losing their jobs. You may not be able to distinguish between their hatred and Pro-Palestinian messages, but there is a difference.
And ripping down posters of missing people does not make you Pro-Palestinian. That points at something far darker.
A display of artwork by Palestinian children at Chelsea and Westminster hospital in London has been removed after a complaint by a pro-Israel organisation, which said it made Jewish patients feel “vulnerable, harassed and victimised”.
Are you honestly saying that none of the videos on the stop antisemitism twitter feed display antisemitism? And that companies - many of whom are public facing and services - aren't right to act?Plenty of people are losing their jobs. I won't say millions, as I have no basis for numbers.
If your first response is a personal attack, I don't feel there's any point in continuing a discussion. Carry on.
You are. You know as well as anyone thay people have been sacked for making pro-Palestinian posts and comments, but that doesn't suit your narrative, so you have to make it out they were doing hate speech.I'm not.
You are though.I'm not.
I'm referencing the instances of antisemitism on a specific twitter feed. Which, in the cases where people have lost their jobs, appear pretty fecking antisemitic.You are though.
Harvard letter: Law students who took anti-Israel stance lose job offers - BBC News
When Posting About the Israel-Hamas War Costs You Your Job (thecut.com)
‘The Palestine exception’: why pro-Palestinian voices are suppressed in the US | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian
‘From friend to enemy’: Palestinians in Israel suspended from jobs over war | Israel-Palestine conflict | Al Jazeera
Israel-Gaza war social media posts, comments are costing some people their jobs - The Washington Post
What's antisemitic about pulling down posters on public property? I went on the twitter feed and 3 of the top 5 tweets are about posters being pulled down.I'm referencing the instances of antisemitism on a specific twitter feed. Which, in the cases where people have lost their jobs, appear pretty fecking antisemitic.
That's not an answer, that's just you waffling to avoid giving one.Under certain circumstances, yes, it is. And international law can allow for it. Whether these circumstances apply in all cases at the moment, I don't know - they probably don't. But I will accept they do in some
Referencing more the posts where people have gone on to lose their jobs. I can't see a single example there where the person losing their job hasn't said or done something blatantly antisemitic.What's antisemitic about pulling down posters on public property? I went on the twitter feed and 3 of the top 5 tweets are about posters being pulled down.
I'm interested to hear which ones are antisemitic in your opinion. Here's what the Harvard students said as an example:Referencing more the posts where people have gone on to lose their jobs. I can't see a single example there where the person losing their job hasn't said or done something blatantly antisemitic.
Re the poster ripping down - perhaps not antisemitic, more a sign of utter stupidity/inability to acknowledge any degree of suffering that has taken part on the other side. It's dehumanising.
A more intelligent thing to do would to be to start a counter poster campaign documenting the detained Palestinians in Israel.
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Well, the first evidence on the feed is of a doctor in London posting "Die Juden sind unsere Unglück" - the Jews are our misfortune - on Facebook. On Oct 10th. 3 days after the Oct 7 attack. He's apparently lost his job. I'd argue that justified and incredibly antisemitic.I'm interested to hear which ones are antisemitic in your opinion. Here's what the Harvard students said as an example:
"We, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence."
I could go through them one by one, but let's start here.
Edit: That twitter link you showed is basically a doxxing handle - if they're doxxing people for pulling down posters than that's pretty pathetic, and really takes away from real cases of antisemitism.
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