But the new Prime Minister will be Giuseppe Conte, a jurist.
I am guessing he is going to be prime minister for less than a year. Rinse and repeat!
Yeah, i give this government one year, not more.
Germany are so racist towards us. Always going on with "cheater", deadbeats", "spaghetti" and "mafia" 
I do understand our next government is gonna be shit, but you can't say every italian is like this. So we can say all the germans are nazi
I do understand our next government is gonna be shit, but you can't say every italian is like this. So we can say all the germans are nazi
I'd say less than that. Just a guess like.
Impeachment for Mattarella
Italy is a mad house
Everything seems to go along just the same, though.
They're a sorry lot, aren't them? I had no idea actually that the president can veto ministers, why does that make sense? Always thought that the only role of the president is to look as much as possible to an old fossil.
If the president gets impeached now, probably the crisis will just become worse.
If the president gets impeached now, probably the crisis will just become worse.
I think that the gap between Italy and Germany/UK/France was smaller in the past. Now, it is quite huge.
Bureaucracy is the worst I have ever seen in a country (lived in several), which might explain some things. While it kind of stops progress, it also is an auto-guide where everything seems to work (in a slow, terrible way) regardless of the government. Really, it seems that it just doesn't matter who is in the government, the status quo seem to continue.
The last thing Italy needs is another technocratic government.
I agree with you. It's extremely bureaucratic but things do work. There's still a lot of paper records, which of course allows for paper trails.
As an example, last year I went to buy a simple PAYG mobile phone. In the UK, you can pick one up in any supermarket and simply ring it through the till with everything else. In Italy, it took a couple of hours in an official phone shop and I had to give my passport details as well as my Codice Fiscale (the Italian NI number) and address. The documentation I signed was about 10 pages long, and yet it's not even a phone with a contract.
Yep, for everything you have to suffer.
I applied to extend my stay permit at the end of January, and I am still waiting (this would be like fourth or fifth extension, so everything should have been so simple). At the same time, I got a stay permit for Switzerland (I work in both countries), and it took me around a week from the moment I applied to the moment I received it by post in my home. There are similar examples in everything, and likely stuff goes like this in every level, which makes governments almost powerless, but things work in a very slow (and not that good) way. And God save you, if you're planning to open your own business, you're going to wait forever for the documents to be able to start working.
Don't want to be a dick about it, but werent Italy kinda on the same side?Germany are so racist towards us. Always going on with "cheater", deadbeats", "spaghetti" and "mafia"
I do understand our next government is gonna be shit, but you can't say every italian is like this. So we can say all the germans are nazi
Well yes, but it was complicated. And they were woefully underprepared for a war - out-of-date equipment, not enough soldiers, those kind of fairly fundamental things.
Wiki has much interesting info on this.
I always read that Mussolini wanted to be the big national socialist man and was afraid Hitler would eclipse him, which is why he rashly joined the war to show his mettle.
The truth is undoubtedly infinitely more complicated, but always though that was one of the big reasons.
Lol, you're lucky if you get it within 8 months of applying for it, in the city I live in. The international students held a massive protest rally last year to get the attention of our dean and he went to talk to the local authorities but nothing came of it. It's the same thing each year, apply for a permit in October (for a permit expiring in December), and then wait at least 6-8 months to get it, which means we have a valid permit only for 4-5 months and we can't travel within the Schengen area without it so we're basically stuck here for those 6-8 months.
I think we are heading toward a bailout of titanic proportions. The country is ungovernable.
What exactly is wrong with that caricature? And sorry, but those words you are using there I haven't seen used in German media at all so far. Maybe you shouldn't believe the Lega, just as a tip....Germany are so racist towards us. Always going on with "cheater", deadbeats", "spaghetti" and "mafia"
I do understand our next government is gonna be shit, but you can't say every italian is like this. So we can say all the germans are nazi
@Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87
You are.
I have a Swiss stay permit up to the end of the year, and I hope to continue it and once and for all, close my adventure with Italy. Btw, I am pretty sure that you are allowed to visit other states with 'Ricevuta' that you get when you apply for permesso.
That's what I was told by my local questura. But it is 100% not true. I found out the hard way when I had to catch a connecting flight in Munich, on my way to India, and the cops at the airport took me in for questioning and told me I was going to be fined and I'd go to jail if I ever came back to Germany with just the ricevuta. I had to get an emergency visa from the Italian embassy to come back. My Zimbabwean friend visited family in Canada and she was almost sent back to Canada from Zurich because the Swiss are even more hardcore about not recognizing Italian incompetence. There's just so much misinformation and nobody seems to be able to answer basic questions properly. I had to break off my engagement partly due to the horror show that is Italian bureaucracy.
Jeez, this sounds terrible. I have actually travelled with Ricevuta in the past, thinking that it is legal (cause those idiots say so), but it was on Schengen area, so no one looks for documents.
Btw, I had a story when I needed to integrate some documents for Permesso (including an auto-certification of a family state that they gave to me). Surprisingly, they said that just sending it filled by email is fine. I did so. Then they called me and said that 'nope, it must not be an auto-certification, instead it should be a real certification with marca da bollo that you get in the municipality'. While I managed to get it, the funny thing is that Italian institutions whom work for the same ministry cannot ask other institutions for documents that have marca da bollo.
So essentially:
1) They gave me a document and said to fill it, but after I did so, they said 'joke on you, it doesn't work'.
2) So I had to get another document which under those circumstances is illegal.
3) They are stupid.
Seriously, Italian bureaucracy is legendary. There are so many stories I have had and heard, they way how they do thing is probably by looking at some random generator of stupid things. And then doing all of them.
I'm not sure anyone really cares? I've only been here a few months but literally nobody seems interested in the slightest by what goes on in the government. All they seem to care about is that their job is safe, they will continue to get a 2 hour lunch break, and nobody will make them work too hard. Discussion on government seems to come down mostly to immigration.
2 hr lunch break? Even France isn't that bad.
Where I am everything closes at 1 and reopens at 3. If its one of the few places that opens through lunch break they're out so fast at 5 the door comes off it's hinges.
all this is just going to strengthen the populists even more
It's a bit racist to say we are all deadbeats. Would you like if i called all the germans "krauts-eating" and "nazis"?
I am left-wing. I just don't want the populists to gain more power due to these shits comics.
Mussolini didn't like Hitler during the first years, but when the german dictator became powerful he wanted to emulate him.
Who‘s „everyone“ I‘m wondering?
And what exactly is there to criticize about a political cartoon in regards to the current political situation in Italy? Because it’s certainly possible to describe it as „driving of a cliff“.
And to answer your question: I don’t give a shit honestly.
And why the feck are you designated as a new member? Haven’t you been around for ages?
By the way Italians worked longer hours than both the Germans(They work the least) and the French. The people who work the longest are the Greeks.
https://www.indy100.com/article/map-europe-long-hours-per-week-7994441
https://www.indy100.com/article/map-europe-long-hours-per-week-7994441
I had lunch with an Italian guy today, he dislikes the eu with a passion. he also believes the same parties will get the most votes with a bigger majority if there's another election, so where will it all end?
That's what all the polls predict so far and I don't see any reason why that would change over the next few months.
They'll just come back even stronger.
I just paid a parking ticket in Portovenere and it only took a few minutes. Seemed easy enough.
Der Spiegel called us, the whole Italy, "deadbeats". It also wrote Draghi is just giving "your money" away to help us. If you don't see a prejudice against us i rest my cace.
P.s.: didn't expect anything different from that newspapers though. They are so biased against us.
The problem lies in our entrepreneurs. They think you have to work a lot to produce good things, while it's the opposite.
Italy hasn't taken politics seriously for at least 2-3 decades. It only contributed for this once prosperous country to built up a mountain of debt as the political scene was dominated by corrupt, mafia linked or incompetent people (some like Berlusconi hitting all three jackpots). The current political scene is dominated by two university drop outs, one of which is inspired by a third rated comedian ie Beppe Grillo and the other one is a racist who can make Nigel Farage look classy and intelligent. I won't be surprised if Berlusconi makes a real comeback.
The EU has stood aside out of this mess giving Italy its independence and right to rule. But things change if it dares dragging the entire Eurozone into yet another crisis so that La Lega-M5S can pay back their voters. No one is in the mood to foot Italy's new bills.
Don't take me wrong, the EU is not perfect. For example its disgraceful how it expects Italy to carry much of the immigration burden by itself. However, the political/financial crisis is all Italy's doing. Backstabbing a more powerful/helpful ally might have worked during WW2 but it won't work now either. The EU is not the Nazi regime and it has far better reputation then Italy does. If Italy bails out from the Eurozone then I am afraid that there will be great repercussions later on.
The EU has stood aside out of this mess giving Italy its independence and right to rule. But things change if it dares dragging the entire Eurozone into yet another crisis so that La Lega-M5S can pay back their voters. No one is in the mood to foot Italy's new bills.
Don't take me wrong, the EU is not perfect. For example its disgraceful how it expects Italy to carry much of the immigration burden by itself. However, the political/financial crisis is all Italy's doing. Backstabbing a more powerful/helpful ally might have worked during WW2 but it won't work now either. The EU is not the Nazi regime and it has far better reputation then Italy does. If Italy bails out from the Eurozone then I am afraid that there will be great repercussions later on.
Are you shitting me? That cover is from the 80‘s. You should really watch out to not fall for propaganda traps. Wow, I really thought better of you, but apparently I was mistaken.Der Spiegel called us, the whole Italy, "deadbeats". It also wrote Draghi is just giving "your money" away to help us. If you don't see a prejudice against us i rest my cace.
P.s.: didn't expect anything different from that newspapers though. They are so biased against us.