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Many a man has crumbled to the power of the pussy.
thats 100% what this is about. Thinking with his little man. We've all been there.

Cue overreaction and scripted apology incoming. Hope the cost of tail was worth it
 

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I’m thinking about what the thread would be like if this were Lingard/Shaw saying this about United. It would have a completely different tone(y)
 

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I’m thinking about what the thread would be like if this were Lingard/Shaw saying this about United. It would have a completely different tone(y)
He’s on 30k a week. I don’t think that buys much loyalty these days.

Still a shitty thing to do all the same.

I bet it’s just because his holiday is ending or Brentford want him back early or something stupid like that. Probably isn’t the smartest either. Won’t look great to prospective clubs but might make Brentford sell him that bit easier
 

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He’s on 30k a week. I don’t think that buys much loyalty these days.

Still a shitty thing to do all the same.

I bet it’s just because his holiday is ending or Brentford want him back early or something stupid like that. Probably isn’t the smartest either. Won’t look great to prospective clubs but might make Brentford sell him that bit easier
I am sure fans aren’t happy all the same, especially if they genuinely love their club.

Coming on the back of the heels of their poor form and manager meltdown, someone needs to get a hold of things.

Newcastle spending, Norwich won 3-0 last game, Burnley drawing at the Emirates, Watford hiring a specialist at clubs that size, they could start to unravel and get sucked in.

It’s terrible timing.

Franks interview was madness and just heaped on the pressure, this is just stupid, but it all can start to add up.
 

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Many a man has crumbled to the power of the pussy.
Nah. If he's not fully on the lash there, out of his mind, he's been tapped up. Plenty of teams need a striker. Who are the obvious candidates who could afford him? Arsenal and?

I think he'd fit in really well at West Ham, but probably too pricey for their tight budget, and I'd definitely like to see him at Brighton but they have no money to spend. Everton?
 

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Nah. If he's not fully on the lash there, out of his mind, he's been tapped up. Plenty of teams need a striker. Who are the obvious candidates who could afford him? Arsenal and?

I think he'd fit in really well at West Ham, but probably too pricey for their tight budget, and I'd definitely like to see him at Brighton but they have no money to spend. Everton?
Come on man. The guy was at a pool party in Dubai. You really think this was all planned in advance?
 

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Come on man. The guy was at a pool party in Dubai. You really think this was all planned in advance?
I think it's plausible that this was a reaction to being made aware of interest by better clubs offering more money with two days to go in the transfer window, yes.
 

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I bet it’s just because his holiday is ending or Brentford want him back early or something stupid like that. Probably isn’t the smartest either. Won’t look great to prospective clubs but might make Brentford sell him that bit easier
No, it’s because he’s trying to impress the female in the video as of being an EPL footballer isn’t enough but I suppose EPL low earner is easily trumped in Dubai.

He’s had an absolute mare there, people are giving the lad far too much credit thinking this is well thought out. He’s a young man trying to impress a young lady, end of.
 

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Don't die for nyash.

Tbh I reckon the Brentford group chat is in stitches right now.
 

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I think it's plausible that this was a reaction to being made aware of interest by better clubs offering more money with two days to go in the transfer window, yes.
It's not that deep :lol:
 

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It really wasn't :lol: He was just drunk or high or both, that's it.
Pogba says he quite likes Madrid & the Caf goes into meltdown. Toney says ‘feck my current employers’ &. . . ‘it ain’t that deep’.

In the grand scheme of things neither are massive issues but this place would have the pitchforks out of a United player did this. It’s just a dumb thing to get caught doing, whisper it in her ear. That’s a weak mentality doing that to impress a girl.
 

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Pogba says he quite likes Madrid & the Caf goes into meltdown. Toney says ‘feck my current employers’ &. . . ‘it ain’t that deep’.

In the grand scheme of things neither are massive issues but this place would have the pitchforks out of a United player did this. It’s just a dumb thing to get caught doing, whisper it in her ear. That’s a weak mentality doing that to impress a girl.
Come on, we have a clip of him and you can easily see he's not sober. Anything said in those circumstances isn't to be taken seriously. I don't see what Pogba's got to do with it. I don't see the point in bringing him up here
 

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Come on, we have a clip of him and you can easily see he's not sober. Anything said in those circumstances isn't to be taken seriously. I don't see what Pogba's got to do with it. I don't see the point in bringing him up here
So him getting drunk absolves him of any responsibility? This forum is rife of overreactions to far more tame statements from our own players so it’s telling how relaxing attitudes are when other clubs are involved. Oh yea, he’s drunk.

I used Pogba as an example of ‘a Manchester United player’ making less inflammatory comments & gaining a far more emotional reaction. If you struggle with that comparison pick another player. It’s really something when comparisons are used to subvert the discussion.

If any of our players said, ‘feck manchester [united]’ then said, ‘I was drunk’ they’d be questions. Absolute pathetic denial.
 

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So him getting drunk absolves him of any responsibility? This forum is rife of overreactions to far more tame statements from our own players so it’s telling how relaxing attitudes are when other clubs are involved. Oh yea, he’s drunk.

I used Pogba as an example of ‘a Manchester United player’ making less inflammatory comments & gaining a far more emotional reaction. If you struggle with that comparison pick another player. It’s really something when comparisons are used to subvert the discussion.

If any of our players said, ‘feck manchester [united]’ then said, ‘I was drunk’ they’d be questions. Absolute pathetic denial.
He is responsible for what he said but it ain't something that dramatic seeing he was fried in his mind.
A lot of people have resentment for their companies for whatever reason and sometimes they voice those feelings when their state of mind is looser
 

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He is responsible for what he said but it ain't something that dramatic seeing he was fried in his mind.
In the grand scheme of things neither are massive issues
So you agree with me then. . .
A lot of people have resentment for their companies for whatever reason and sometimes they voice those feelings when their state of mind is looser
What the hell has he got to resent Brentford for? You’re making some rather big leaps here unless you know the guy personally.

He mouthed off on a video, looking to impress a woman. This resentment you speak of may exist but it just as much may not. Can we go off what we see, a grown man who is drunk making silly comments towards his employer. Unfortunately given his job, the ‘stakeholders’/fans are going to be upset because of this.

If it were a United player Od be asking why he’s paralytic mid-season [break or not] & why when he is he’s so disparaging. That in itself isn’t an overreaction. Getting upset because someone likes Madrid would be.
 

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So you agree with me then. . .

What the hell has he got to resent Brentford for? You’re making some rather big leaps here unless you know the guy personally.

He mouthed off on a video, looking to impress a woman. This resentment you speak of may exist but it just as much may not. Can we go off what we see, a grown man who is drunk making silly comments towards his employer. Unfortunately given his job, the ‘stakeholders’/fans are going to be upset because of this.

If it were a United player Od be asking why he’s paralytic mid-season [break or not] & why when he is he’s so disparaging. That in itself isn’t an overreaction. Getting upset because someone likes Madrid would be.
I was talking in general, just a hypothesis.

The resentment he would possibly feel could be based on things we have no idea of. I find it funny how we are assuming the ins and outs of what's going on between players and clubs in general.

All in all, it doesn't matter. Man was drunk, said stupid shit. Big fecking deal
 

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Club fine and public apology coming up.

Stupid thing to do, if that is even him.

He's not exactly been rooting up tress in the league the past few months, in fact other than a handful of decent games I think he's been average at best.
Probably best to let his form do the talking in future.
 

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Pogba says he quite likes Madrid & the Caf goes into meltdown. Toney says ‘feck my current employers’ &. . . ‘it ain’t that deep’.

In the grand scheme of things neither are massive issues but this place would have the pitchforks out of a United player did this. It’s just a dumb thing to get caught doing, whisper it in her ear. That’s a weak mentality doing that to impress a girl.
This is a Manchester United forum mate, not a Brentford one.
 

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So him getting drunk absolves him of any responsibility? This forum is rife of overreactions to far more tame statements from our own players so it’s telling how relaxing attitudes are when other clubs are involved. Oh yea, he’s drunk.

I used Pogba as an example of ‘a Manchester United player’ making less inflammatory comments & gaining a far more emotional reaction. If you struggle with that comparison pick another player. It’s really something when comparisons are used to subvert the discussion.

If any of our players said, ‘feck manchester [united]’ then said, ‘I was drunk’ they’d be questions. Absolute pathetic denial.
I’m confused. Are you condemning Toney for what he said, having previously defended Pogba for doing something similar?
 

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That’s a guy saying what he thinks he needs to say to get laid. You can see how he shrugs his shoulders and says it like a question - “ fk Brentford? Sure, if it gets me in there” - i prob would have said “ fk the pope” to get with her.
 

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I’m confused. Are you condemning Toney for what he said, having previously defended Pogba for doing something similar?
Last time we went back & forth you put me ‘on mute’ because you couldn’t stand up in your defence of Luke Shaw & missquoted me. Nice to have you back.

So. . . when have I ever defending Pogba for saying, ‘feck manchester united or similar’ whilst drunk. Remembering Pogba is a devout Muslim.

I haven’t condemned Toney. . .

In the grand scheme of things neither are massive issues
. . . but alas here we are again in a game of wilful ignorance. I was remarking on people dismissing it as nothing who would be up in arms should any United player do the same but yes I’m condemning Toney despite apparently defending Pogba’s outbursts [which I haven’t done], I simply don’t portray him as the anti-christ.

Back to the topic at hand though, if a United player were on camera saying those words I find it difficult to think people would be saying, ‘Man was drunk, said stupid shit. Big fecking deal’.

More than happy to discuss Toney further if you’re willing to do so in good faith.
 

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Time and time again. Do footballers think no one will see their social media posts. Just think for half a second before you do it. I'm sure he will be badge kissing in his next match he scores in.
i think he was hoping his actions would lead to some badge kissing that very evening
 

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So him getting drunk absolves him of any responsibility? This forum is rife of overreactions to far more tame statements from our own players so it’s telling how relaxing attitudes are when other clubs are involved. Oh yea, he’s drunk.

I used Pogba as an example of ‘a Manchester United player’ making less inflammatory comments & gaining a far more emotional reaction. If you struggle with that comparison pick another player. It’s really something when comparisons are used to subvert the discussion.

If any of our players said, ‘feck manchester [united]’ then said, ‘I was drunk’ they’d be questions. Absolute pathetic denial.
Do you spend every second of your life livid about something?
 

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Oh, it was edited. My guess is he said "feck, I love Brentford" and they removed the middle two words.
Word on the street is he said "F**k Madrid, I love it at Brentford".
Disgusting that someone would edit it to make him look bad.
 

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Great addition to the discussion there lad. Engage comprehension next time.
Since you're too thick to understand, I'll elaborate: This is a United forum, so United fans will obviously feel more emotional towards one of their own players. Most don't care much what Toney has to say about Brentford.