To be honest, what concerned me last summer was the opposite, apart from Sancho there was almost radio silence regarding other targets until the last few days of the window.
Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed
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No news to report so just state the obvious/recycle old news. We all knew that when the Euros started things wouldn't go as quickly. Just because things don't get back to the press doesn't mean that there's nothing happening. It just means that those who leak to the twitter press likely haven't been told of anything happening.
It's a waiting game, nothing more, nothing less
Last summer the general consensus was that the gap between Utd's valuation and BVB was huge and Utd saw the fee as "unrealistic"
This time the valuation was much smaller with Utd willing to pay and BVB willing to compromise with the consensus from both Germany and England being a deal will be done. It's frustrating but Utd were always going to haggle the deal will be done
This time last year the general thought was we'd get him eventually. In August it became iffy but even then We briefed we had agreed terms and where hopeful. The Sancho sage really messed up our last window.
Can't let it happen again.
Rio's thoughts on Sancho
"They should have got him last summer and they need to get him this summer. He's English, hungry, talented, has got it all - and he's only 21. It's a no-brainer. You go and get him."
"They should have got him last summer and they need to get him this summer. He's English, hungry, talented, has got it all - and he's only 21. It's a no-brainer. You go and get him."
Another day, another pile of bollocks spoken about Sancho. It will turn into another shitshow unless United just pay the bloody money. They can make up the difference in the valuation in shirt sales and a payoff if Palace sell Zaha for £40m plus.
After a £40million bid for Ben White has been rejected there is no way Dortmund will lower a £77 million fee for Sancho. He is easily worth more that double Ben White.
That was the "general thought" without any concrete evidence it would be the case. BVB's price and stance after the deadline was clear and Utd's stance on an "unrealistic" fee and walking away was also clear so it was all hope rather than anything tangible happening the only similarity was personal terms agreed
This time the gap in valuation is much smaller than last year, it's clear BVB are willing to compromise with add ons as per German reports and most importantly Utd are willing to pay no talk of us seeing the fee as too high or walking away just a matter of time before it's done
Not Zaha.Woy couldn’t do that much with him. One good game every 15.
Powell is a curious one, we’ve had a few here who looked like they could go on: Keane, Wilson et al but the mentality hasn’t been there IMO
Clearly has his eye on the upcoming game Vs Scotland.
'Doesn't give a flying feck' was too strongly worded. Of course you are right that he will care, and will be waiting for his future to be sorted. I just think that behind the scenes, the dramaturgy of such a deal is very different than from how we construct it in our daily consumption of transfer 'news', and he has information that we don't while having a huge professional event keeping him fully occupied.
As for last season, I wouldn't actually be too sure just how much of his form struggles really were directly down to the transfer not materializing. Some maybe, but then young players have form fluctuations like that regularly.
The thing about not having to pay a couple months worth of wages when you do a transfer late did cross my mind before, it's an intriguing thought and would indeed serve as a motivation for late deals when else there is no conceivable reasoning for it. But surely the players' agents would try to figure this kind of missed income into the deals being done in some way?
Soooo.... Nothing? See you tomorrow so for Sancho Day !!!!
Big day tomorrow. Make sure you’re on time.
It's over lads.
WE GO AGAIN NEXT SUMMER
WE GO AGAIN NEXT SUMMER
Supply and demand works differently. You have to take into account the finances of each club, the length of the contract, the willingness of the player to leave, recent performances, how long they already spend in their clubs and their ambitions. English tax. United tax. Negotiation skills. Sometimes you can get Bruno for 38 million and Maguire for 80. ALWAYS depends on situation. it's not that straightforward.
This is starting to stink of 2020. If we really are playing the waiting game with Dortmund then we deserve to see one of our rivals hijack the move.
Aye as a Utd fan nothing would make me happier than my own team being taught a lesson by seeing a class player going to one of our rivals. It would be great.
Who said anyone would be happy. It’s absolute shit, but the risk our idiot owners are taking.
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Big diff are that this summer the 'deadline' is much further down the track --- and more importantly there has not been one word uttered in public by the Dortmund team. They are more 'humble' this summer.
Sancho is English.
Aye, the risk of not completing a gargantuan transfer within a week of the transfer window opening when there is a major national competition going is unacceptable. Those audacious fools…
I couldn’t think of anything clever to put here
Yes but Sancho belongs to the most expensive category -- An Englishman abroad, the expat class. The tax rate is the highest.
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Today is the day
We're going to get him.
Relax guys.
Only a matter of when.
Relax guys.
Only a matter of when.
With comments like this you need hijacking by another forum
The big difference this year is Dortmund have been very quite on the subject.
Last year it felt like they gave a qoute every day. After the 'deadline' they wheeled players, staff, legends and that 'you love to see it' tweet in front of the media just to show how Sancho was now going to stay.
It's going to happen. It wouldn't surprise me if it was done and they have to arrange a medical (hard during the Euros as Southgate would winge) and the right time to announce it that gets the most exposure, clicks and likes matter!
Last year it felt like they gave a qoute every day. After the 'deadline' they wheeled players, staff, legends and that 'you love to see it' tweet in front of the media just to show how Sancho was now going to stay.
It's going to happen. It wouldn't surprise me if it was done and they have to arrange a medical (hard during the Euros as Southgate would winge) and the right time to announce it that gets the most exposure, clicks and likes matter!
Southgate is an average manager that have favorites. He's not a risk taker.
Nah our fecking prick owners need to be hijacked.
Been negotiating for over a year, price has dropped and been set by Dortmund, yes despite your sarcasm, it’s fairly pathetic that our club can’t come to an agreement on the fee.
My concern with Untied's front office is that they can't seem to do 2 things at once. Do they have another option, up front, if Sancho does not sign, or do they have to wait to the very end and then grab whats left. Do they have several options at midfield or does that depend on a forward being signed. Do they have the ability to negotiate for several different CB's at one time?
Big day today
For all intents and purposes, this already seems done but won't be announced anytime soon owing to the euros.
Dortmund is surprisingly quiet. That tells the whole story me thinks. If they are so sure Sancho will stay they would have rubbed it on our faces.
I remember them constantly mentioning about everything in the press conferences last year. Not so this year.
Precisely. The power equation has shifted somewhat. If it was next season, they would even be meeker with the power (equation) shifted to the player and the buying club.
Who the hell pays players on a weekly basis?
You can also notice not many BuLi/Dortmund guys around the thread like last year. Me thinks it's hapening. Good stuff.
Yeah, makes you wonder if mica was a shared account between Watzke and Zorc.
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