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Oh I mostly agree, except I think he’s been good in open play today, my point is that judging players during international matches is a poor barometer of how good they are. Some players shine there, some don’t.The only thing that JWP does well both for Soton and England are the set pieces. Hence I would bring him to the Euros for TAA, because you need a player on the bench that has that in his locker and can offer something different from what the starting XI can.
Other than that he doesn't impress me with his work in midfield specifically. Neither for England (incl. today) nor Soton.
JWP is a player who I think , because of his deliveries and free kicks being his strongest highlights, people often say that's all he's about. In reality he's very good at pressing, his passing is good and his tackling too. I think over McTominay in particular he would be advantageous in closing down more proactively and passing range & distribution. McTominay can sometimes be too casual in both these areas.Take away his dead ball prowess and he’s not nearly as good as McTominay.
Of course, my opinion isn't worth any more than yours! I just think Grealish is a better player and I would rather have him in my team. I think he'll be a better player than Sanho would - but both will be (or already are) World Class. As I said, ideally I'd want both, accepting Grealish doesn't normally play right, he'd be a perfect Pogba replacement.Plenty would but at least you agree there is an argument both ways.
I also didn't say Grealish is only better because he's older. I implied that he wasn't as good at the same age and Sancho still has room to grow. At 22, it's very unlikely you would've been for signing Grealish so I feel it's silly to be so against signing Sancho at the same age when he's already shown he is a very talented player for multiple years.
You would need another 40m, unfortunately.Forget Sancho, put that £80m towards Grealish. The guy is different gravy.
He has been average for Dortmund in the CL whenever I watch him.Imagine changing your tune on player based on 70 odd minutes of an England friendly right before a major tournament. God bless SadCafe.
AWB gets forward and into pretty good positions. Godfrey clearly looks like a CB playing RBWould AWB offer anything more than Godfrey?
Some of us have been saying it ever since we were linked with him.Imagine changing your tune on player based on 70 odd minutes of an England friendly right before a major tournament. God bless SadCafe.
Part of the truth is that Sancho has found his role at Dortmund. He's surrounded by movement and there are automatisms and patterns of play that comstantly place him in situations he excels in. Finding solutions through one twos and his great ball control, opening up small passing lanes for through balls etc. He's incredible in what he does best and for me already world class and the best player in the Bundesliga thanks to that. But if you want him to perform you need to create those circumstances for him and I honestly don't think this will be the case at United. To me the idea that he's the solution for RW is like a testament to this - because who thinks not only playing Sancho on the right but also with a defensive minded RB behind him would getbthe best out of him hasn't paid enough attention. Maybe a player that is less reliant on linking up with other players and who actually favours the right would be the better solution for you. Or it is trusting Greenwood and/or Diallo. In this case Sancho might make sense with Shaw behind him on the left but that depends on the questoon if Rashford can move into the striker position permanently.Plenty would argue it's very easy to hit good stats in the Bundasliga playing for Dortmund compared to carrying an Aston Villa side. Plenty would argue Grealish carries more influence on the game than Sancho does, and that Grealish is a ridiculous talent, one of the best in the Premier League in fact let alone the Bundasliga.
The argument about age is indeed silly, because players reach their potential at different times and at different levels. As I said, it's very presumptuous to claim Grealish is only better than Sancho right now because he's just a few years older.
That is my hope.Nearly every player looks average playing for England. International football is a terrible way to judge players in general, especially tournaments where there is nearly always one player that looks a world beater but is shite for their club. Sissoko at the 2018 World Cup for example.
Maybe thats why we are trying to bring in Trippier.Part of the truth is that Sancho has found his role at Dortmund. He's surrounded by movement and there are automatisms and patterns of play that comstantly place him in situations he excels in. Finding solutions through one twos and his great ball control, opening up small passing lanes for through balls etc. He's incredible in what he does best and for me already world class and the best player in the Bundesliga thanks to that. But if you want him to perform you need to create those circumstances for him and I honestly don't think this will be the case at United. To me the idea that he's the solution for RW is like a testament to this - because who thinks not only playing Sancho on the right but also with a defensive minded RB behind him would getbthe best out of him hasn't paid enough attention. Maybe a player that is less reliant on linking up with other players and who actually favours the right would be the better solution for you. Or it is trusting Greenwood and/or Diallo. In this case Sancho might make sense with Shaw behind him on the left but that depends on the questoon if Rashford can move into the striker position permanently.
To me this transfer smells like a huge disappointment for both player and club/fans.
I absolutely agree with your first point, but I don’t think he’s Manchester United good at any of that.JWP is a player who I think , because of his deliveries and free kicks being his strongest highlights, people often say that's all he's about. In reality he's very good at pressing, his passing is good and his tackling too. I think over McTominay in particular he would be advantageous in closing down more proactively and passing range & distribution. McTominay can sometimes be too casual in both these areas.
Where are you getting “club record fee” from? Nothing I’ve read has suggested that, in GBP anyway.That is my hope.
Although us buying Sancho for a club record fee, then finding out he's Rashford/Martial -esque on the right would be so us.
I don't think it's that easy. When Hakimi was still at Dortmund, Sancho rather played as ab RAM than a winger in a 3-4-2-1 (the current Chelsea formation).Maybe thats why we are trying to bring in Trippier.
We tried last year. He turned us down.Forget Sancho. Buy Bellingham instead.
In 2 years time.Forget Sancho. Buy Bellingham instead.
Too late. In hindsight it was a clear mistake not to get him though instead of VDB last summer. Also played more for Dortmund than I expectedForget Sancho. Buy Bellingham instead.
You’re conveniently ignoring that Sancho clearly isn’t a natural right winger himself.People keep saying they'd rather sign Grealish, conveniently ignoring we need a RIGHT winger and Grealish has never played as a RIGHT winger in the Premier League
I think I'm getting mixed up with British club record in fairness. Just slightly higher than Maguire.Where are you getting “club record fee” from? Nothing I’ve read has suggested that, in GBP anyway.
It obviously wasn’t a ‘mistake’. We tried to buy him and he refused.Too late. In hindsight it was a clear mistake not to get him though instead of VDB last summer. Also played more for Dortmund than I expected
yeah the fee bandied about is less than the Pogba feeI think I'm getting mixed up with British club record in fairness. Just slightly higher than Maguire.
Pogba's fee shouldn't be touched. Hopefully!
This is a good take. You don't hire an accountant in a marketing job and expect him to deliver the same quality as in his earlier role. I believe people are rather expecting a Coman type of winger when Sancho is actually more of a playmaker. He's not beating defenders by bursts of speed or something like that.I mean, that's what like 99% of teams do...
Sancho creates a lot of space on the flank and is great at playing the ball behind the defence
Don't expect him to stay wide, isolate with the FB and attack on his own, that's just not his game
Grealish is just built for United in my view, shame he'll end up at City. He just has the personality for us. If he'd shown more at RW I'd be all for it. I'd even be all for it at LW but realistically we aren't not playing Rashford.JWP is a player who I think , because of his deliveries and free kicks being his strongest highlights, people often say that's all he's about. In reality he's very good at pressing, his passing is good and his tackling too. I think over McTominay in particular he would be advantageous in closing down more proactively and passing range & distribution. McTominay can sometimes be too casual in both these areas.
Of course, my opinion isn't worth any more than yours! I just think Grealish is a better player and I would rather have him in my team. I think he'll be a better player than Sanho would - but both will be (or already are) World Class. As I said, ideally I'd want both, accepting Grealish doesn't normally play right, he'd be a perfect Pogba replacement.
This is spot on. Sancho isn't a natural on the right side. I just hope Solskjaer isn't as naive as some of the posts I've read on here about Sancho.You’re conveniently ignoring that Sancho clearly isn’t a natural right winger himself.
Its a mistake. As if we didnt have the means to convince him to come if we didnt sign another midfielderIt obviously wasn’t a ‘mistake’. We tried to buy him and he refused.
He always is poor for England.He was toilet today.
This is not true, at all. He's barely played for England - was shite today but was good in another game. I think he's only had something like 1200 minutes in an England shirt, which is hardly anything.He always is poor for England.
Which is why muppets wanting to spend €120m on him last summer or €100m now are nuts.
Realistically, he should be cheaper than that.
We even got Fergie involved but he and his family refused.Its a mistake. As if we didnt have the means to convince him to come if we didnt sign another midfielder
We had tracked him for ages, brought him to Carrington in January, rolled out Sir Alex etc. He made his choice because there is more than one football team in the world, which some forget. It’s obvious what Dortmund gives you. The people in this thread wanting to sign the 21 year old Sancho instead of giving the 18 year old Diallo the same program Dortmund gave the same Sancho is an example of why Dortmund will always hold an obvious appeal.Its a mistake. As if we didnt have the means to convince him to come if we didnt sign another midfielder
Yes this is my biggest worry. He has class and skill but in our current attacking approach (or the lack of it), we don't excel in putting our attacking players in situations where they can isolate the opposition. We don't create space for attacking transitions and overlaps. Sancho doesn't look like he has the physical ability (elite burst of space/strength) or playing style for 1-on-1 duels against lines of defence.Part of the truth is that Sancho has found his role at Dortmund. He's surrounded by movement and there are automatisms and patterns of play that comstantly place him in situations he excels in. Finding solutions through one twos and his great ball control, opening up small passing lanes for through balls etc. He's incredible in what he does best and for me already world class and the best player in the Bundesliga thanks to that. But if you want him to perform you need to create those circumstances for him and I honestly don't think this will be the case at United. To me the idea that he's the solution for RW is like a testament to this - because who thinks not only playing Sancho on the right but also with a defensive minded RB behind him would getbthe best out of him hasn't paid enough attention. Maybe a player that is less reliant on linking up with other players and who actually favours the right would be the better solution for you. Or it is trusting Greenwood and/or Diallo. In this case Sancho might make sense with Shaw behind him on the left but that depends on the questoon if Rashford can move into the striker position permanently.
To me this transfer smells like a huge disappointment for both player and club/fans.