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Go on Agent Lingz!
Any context to this weird bump?Go on Agent Lingz!
See the previous post.Any context to this weird bump?
Oh sorry, I’ve got him on ignore so didn’t see it.See the previous post.
Ouch.Oh sorry, I’ve got him on ignore so didn’t see it.
Oh sorry, I’ve got him on ignore so didn’t see it.
Mourinho spent most of it it a couple of months early on Sanchez and then cried about needing more money when he did not perform.At which point Madrid, Barca, City etc might also be on board. We need to go all out now. Spend last seasons transfer kitty. Where has that all gone?
How much did Sanchez cost us then?Mourinho spent most of it it a couple of months early on Sanchez and then cried about needing more money when he did not perform.
SavageOh sorry, I’ve got him on ignore so didn’t see it.
He is by far the most expensive signing we ever made. He took up wage room equivalent to three top players, which Mourinho very well knew.How much did Sanchez cost us then?
We have one of the lowest wage/revenue ratios in the world. It doesn’t really limit us.Anyways, nothing of this has to do with a "transfer kitty". We have a "wage kitty", which is to 90 percent what governs what players the club can sign.
Only ones that had a ridiculously good season like Dembele. That's the market now.Is every 'potentially good player but hasn't done it quite yet' £120-150m these days?
Ridiculous. Sancho is worth £50m tops.
Sancho had a better season this season than Dembele did in his final Dortmund season.Only ones that had a ridiculously good season like Dembele. That's the market now.
I mean hasn’t their only really been two? One of those was also a panic reaction from Barca because they lost Neymar when they said it was impossible and the fact that Dortmund didn’t want to sell, didn’t have to sell but since Barca asked Dembele to kick up a fuss they might as well fleece Barca for all their worth.Is every 'potentially good player but hasn't done it quite yet' £120-150m these days?
Ridiculous. Sancho is worth £50m tops.
Thats just not true. Today its just above 50 percent which is the recommended ratio for football clubs. Spurs is at 40 percent. Arsenal at 47 for example.We have one of the lowest wage/revenue ratios in the world. It doesn’t really limit us.
They're very different players. One's a goal scorer and the other is a supplier/scorer.Anyway I’m starting to lean more towards Havertz. He is someone we should be investing in the last month he just had. Keeps that form up and he’ll be going for a 100mil + soon.
Don’t want anything to do with Sancho if he thinks Lingard is funny.
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The Guardian:Thats just not true. Today its just above 50 percent which is the recommended ratio for football clubs. Spurs is at 40 percent. Arsenal at 47 for example.
Barcelona even have the number 50 percent in their statutes to prevent the club from going south I believe. All their presidents ignore it though and its going to come back and bite them sooner or later.
As long as we are at 50 percent the owners are doing what can be asked from them.
Barcelona is currently at 70%Chelsea
Wages £221m (3rd highest, 60% of turnover)
Liverpool
Wages £208m (4th highest, 57% of turnover)
City
Wages £264m (Highest, 56% of turnover)
United
Wages £263m (2nd highest, 45% of turnover)
Spurs
Wages £127m (6th highest, 42% of turnover)
Arsenal
Wages £199m (5th highest, 47% of turnover)
Thanks for the reminder about Havertz. I checked him again and what a seriously impressive player (much more than the dozens of hype jobs we hear about constantly). One thing I can't quite figure out is his position!I mean hasn’t their only really been two? One of those was also a panic reaction from Barca because they lost Neymar when they said it was impossible and the fact that Dortmund didn’t want to sell, didn’t have to sell but since Barca asked Dembele to kick up a fuss they might as well fleece Barca for all their worth.
You here Leroy Sane being touted at fees of 80mil, Chiesa,Lemar, Pulisic and so on. I think Sancho should probably go for around 80mil which is still ridiculous.
Anyway I’m starting to lean more towards Havertz. He is someone we should be investing in the last month he just had. Keeps that form up and he’ll be going for a 100mil + soon.
Havertz is exactly who we should be going for. Go back for Sancho next year.I mean hasn’t their only really been two? One of those was also a panic reaction from Barca because they lost Neymar when they said it was impossible and the fact that Dortmund didn’t want to sell, didn’t have to sell but since Barca asked Dembele to kick up a fuss they might as well fleece Barca for all their worth.
You here Leroy Sane being touted at fees of 80mil, Chiesa,Lemar, Pulisic and so on. I think Sancho should probably go for around 80mil which is still ridiculous.
Anyway I’m starting to lean more towards Havertz. He is someone we should be investing in the last month he just had. Keeps that form up and he’ll be going for a 100mil + soon.
If we can't afford Sancho this year there is little chance we can afford Havertz as well. He will be just as expensive.Havertz is exactly who we should be going for. Go back for Sancho next year.
Very well siad. That's why you should focus on young wonderkids and break the bank for them instead of overpaid veterans if you want to do a rebuild the squad. When you have the backbone than you can invest on players at peak to tune the squad (if the wage bill alows it)He is by far the most expensive signing we ever made. He took up wage room equivalent to three top players, which Mourinho very well knew.
On top of that we paif the Arse 25m to use him for four extra months.
I guess you are one of those fixated on transfer fees. Transfer fees are bordering to irrelevant for a club like United. We could probably go out an invest in De Ligt, Neymar, Felix and a couple of more as long as they are young or a bona fide superstar like Neymar. They will not lose asset value and we will get back our investment, maybe more.
Woodward was not wrong when he said that we can do almost anything in the transfer market. Which we can, our problem is the wage bill.
Mourinho would have had 3-4 players more last summer had he not signed Sanchez and given a new fat contract to Fellaini, and that has only to do with our wage bill (which eclipsed Citys with the Sanchez deal). Thats on Mourinho.
Anyways, nothing of this has to do with a "transfer kitty". We have a "wage kitty", which is to 90 percent what governs what players the club can sign.
This got OT, I will leave it at that.
Buy them both and potentially have two world class players for a looooooong time. Or we look for the next Sanches wink wink.If we can't afford Sancho this year there is little chance we can afford Havertz as well. He will be just as expensive.
The biggest risk with having those players leading the rebuild is that they might become impatient if the rest of the team isn't up to scratch. Say that we get two wonderkids for £100m each over two years. That won't leave a huge amount to invest in other positions.Very well siad. That's why you should focus on young wonderkids and break the bank for them instead of overpaid veterans if you want to do a rebuild the squad. When you have the backbone than you can invest on players at peak to tune the squad (if the wage bill alows it)
If Pogba goes, I'd give every penny we get for him to Bayer for Havertz if necessary.If we can't afford Sancho this year there is little chance we can afford Havertz as well. He will be just as expensive.
Those are outdated numbers, tbf. We're at 50% now for starters.The Guardian:
Chelsea
Wages £221m (3rd highest, 60% of turnover)
Liverpool
Wages £208m (4th highest, 57% of turnover)
City
Wages £264m (Highest, 56% of turnover)
United
Wages £263m (2nd highest, 45% of turnover)
Spurs
Wages £127m (6th highest, 42% of turnover)
Arsenal
Wages £199m (5th highest, 47% of turnover)
Those are numbers per 30 June 2017. United historically has had an wage bill around 40 percent, under the PLC and SAF as well. The Sanchez deal and other dealings under Mourinhos last 18 months put us over 50 percent and we surpassed City in total wages during the 2017/2018 season.The Guardian:
Barcelona is currently at 70%
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He is not just a goal scorer by any means whatsoever. He has a great passing range and can travel with the ball.They're very different players. One's a goal scorer and the other is a supplier/scorer.
Personally, i'd go with the supplier/scorer which means Sancho as he'd bring more to the squad and we lack creative players in the squad.
Can play left also, get Pepe for the right this year and him for the left next year, if Martial improves he can play CF if jot ship him out next year.An old video of Sancho
Only one teenager there.Silly teenagers.