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Maddison along with Olmo would be good additions
I think he’s trying for «the bag man».He was the what?
I’d take that.I reckon Leicester would sell him for 85, making a point that it was more than Maguire. I agree he'd be a massive upgrade, versatile, energetic, good touch, mouldable, hasn't won anything yet so hungry.
you're wrongI reckon Leicester would sell him for 85, making a point that it was more than Maguire. I agree he'd be a massive upgrade, versatile, energetic, good touch, mouldable, hasn't won anything yet so hungry.
One player is not going to elevate the team, but Maddison would be a great addition just like Maguire is. I'd prefer to buy him, a proven quality player already at the age of 22-23, rather than go look elsewhere like we did with Fred and end up with a dud. The same logic that was used back then, for 50m we could have bought Doucoure, who is twice the player our 50m man is.He's a good PL level player. Much like Maguire, actually. And like Maguire, he's not going to elevate the team or add anything further than that. For the price he'd cost, I'd prefer to look elsewhere. I'd prefer to actually buy some top quality wingers and a central midfield, and move away from playing with number 10's.
Plus, he does seem like a bit of a bellend. The vitriol will flood in from our fans once he starts hanging around with Lingard, and performances drop, like virtually every single player we've signed in the past 5 years.
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Doesnt it depend on Maddison himself? Maguire only pushed things through near the end. If Maddison (who seems more of a fancy lad) wants to push things through earlier on and make it clear he will not be good to keep around, then £85 million is probably an amazing amount to get considering we obviously got done on the Maguire deal and are unlikely to fall for the same trick againyou're wrong
I like the player but he's going to cost an arm and a leg and I'm not sure he's worth that. Hope we can find a better alternative - someone exceptionally good or as good but a better deal - however if not, then of course he'd be a good addition to the team.Tweet
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it wasn't a trick, we set a price and said pay it or feck off, we will do the same again here, and it will be higherDoesnt it depend on Maddison himself? Maguire only pushed things through near the end. If Maddison (who seems more of a fancy lad) wants to push things through earlier on and make it clear he will not be good to keep around, then £85 million is probably an amazing amount to get considering we obviously got done on the Maguire deal and are unlikely to fall for the same trick again
I think we were quoted around the same for Bruno Fernandes tbh.I like the player but he's going to cost an arm and a leg and I'm not sure he's worth that. Hope we can find a better alternative - someone exceptionally good or as good but a better deal - however if not, then of course he'd be a good addition to the team.
It was a trick to sell a £50 million CB for £80 million. We were swindled, we wont want to repeat it.it wasn't a trick, we set a price and said pay it or feck off, we will do the same again here, and it will be higher
that's not a trick its setting a price we thought no one would be stupid enough to pay, I've not seen anything from Maddison that makes me think he would cause problemsIt was a trick to sell a £50 million CB for £80 million. We were swindled, we wont want to repeat it.
You might not want to sell but you might have to deal with an unhappy player who isnt good for the morale of the squad. If that isnt a problem, nobody would ever sell their players
Too much sand.that's not a trick its setting a price we thought no one would be stupid enough to pay, I've not seen anything from Maddison that makes me think he would cause problems
I don't think it matters who we're after, it will cost us. The problem is we need to refresh so many positions there won't be enough funds to do them all in 2-3 windows as long as the Glazers are owners and Woodward is in charge.I like the player but he's going to cost an arm and a leg and I'm not sure he's worth that. Hope we can find a better alternative - someone exceptionally good or as good but a better deal - however if not, then of course he'd be a good addition to the team.
Right. But if he did it would be a different story. Maguire only pushed things through at the end, if Maddison was being a bad apple as soon as a team came in for him you'd have to have a different exit strategy. At that point you cant have it all your own waythat's not a trick its setting a price we thought no one would be stupid enough to pay, I've not seen anything from Maddison that makes me think he would cause problems
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and if my Auntie had balls she'd be my uncle your point is just wild speculation on what may happen if something else that may not happen actually happensRight. But if he did it would be a different story. Maguire only pushed things through at the end, if Maddison was being a bad apple as soon as a team came in for him you'd have to have a different exit strategy. At that point you cant have it all your own way
He had swagger!He was the what?
You're assuming best case scenario for you, whats the difference with someone else suggesting it may also be worst case scenario for you? Both are possibleand if my Auntie had balls she'd be my uncle your point is just wild speculation on what may happen if something else that may not happen actually happens
I’m not assuming anything I said I’ve seen nothing from him that makes me think he would cause problems because I haven’tYou're assuming best case scenario for you, whats the difference with someone else suggesting it may also be worst case scenario for you? Both are possible
You're assuming that Leicester get to set an unreasonable price and a team will have to pay it to get him. Thats best case scenario for you. It may happen, it may not. But theres every chance it wontI’m not assuming anything I said I’ve seen nothing from him that makes me think he would cause problems because I haven’t
that's not a baseless assumption, its literally what we do, wee did last summer, we did it the summer before with Mahrez and the summer before that with Drinkwater, it is what we do, we set a price we are prepared to sell at and stick to it, the better the player and longer the contracts the higher the price, and if it were me I'd also make it clear to Woodward that every story linking Maddison to you adds another £10m to the price so he might want to plug the leaksYou're assuming that Leicester get to set an unreasonable price and a team will have to pay it to get him. Thats best case scenario for you. It may happen, it may not. But theres every chance it wont
I think there is very little chance of you getting him for less than Maguire, he is younger, playing in the more glamour number 10 position and by next summer will almost certainly be in the England squad. United can't pay massive amounts for players like Maguire and Wan Bissaka then all of a sudden flip it so they can try and undercut an asking price, he will only be 2 years into his 5 year contract.You're assuming that Leicester get to set an unreasonable price and a team will have to pay it to get him. Thats best case scenario for you. It may happen, it may not. But theres every chance it wont
The Caf's already sold Pogba.If he's coming, Pogba is definitely leaving IMO.
He's already sold himself to MadridThe Caf's already sold Pogba.
Yes but we find players for between 30 and 50 million depending on how well known they are. English and well known PL player no doubts raises the price.I don't think it matters who we're after, it will cost us. The problem is we need to refresh so many positions there won't be enough funds to do them all in 2-3 windows as long as the Glazers are owners and Woodward is in charge.
Too bad they have to pay to get him.He's already sold himself to Madrid
Yeah my doubt is end product. You don't pay 80-90 million for an attacking with that sort of end product unless he's ready to absolurely explode. On the other hand I do really like the look of Maddison as a player7 goals and 7 assists in the PL last year. is he really a £85m man? i'm not convinced. and if we lose Pogba, then we will have gotten worse.
So because you did something once its going to happen again. I guess we're winning the treble againthat's not a baseless assumption, its literally what we do, wee did last summer, we did it the summer before with Mahrez and the summer before that with Drinkwater, it is what we do, we set a price we are prepared to sell at and stick to it, the better the player and longer the contracts the higher the price, and if it were me I'd also make it clear to Woodward that every story linking Maddison to you adds another £10m to the price so he might want to plug the leaks