Jesse Lingard | Seoul singer

cruelly overlooked in the balon dor once again.
 
jlingz.com is selling chicken now
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I actaully went and had a look. Didn;t he used to have his own clothing line?

All that is on there now is nike and other brand trainers, no jlingz branded stuff at all.
 
I actaully went and had a look. Didn;t he used to have his own clothing line?

All that is on there now is nike and other brand trainers, no jlingz branded stuff at all.
I dropped by Flannels and all they had was Stone Island, Hugo Boss all that shit. Can't get Jesse's designs anywhere.
 
I actaully went and had a look. Didn;t he used to have his own clothing line?

All that is on there now is nike and other brand trainers, no jlingz branded stuff at all.
Pretty sure the brand failed. Before it closed they had huge sales on everything. The current site is probably not his, someone probably bought the domain and is using it to promote their actual website.
 
Pretty sure the brand failed. Before it closed they had huge sales on everything. The current site is probably not his, someone probably bought the domain and is using it to promote their actual website.
'Jesse' used to be homophobic shorthand for feminine man and it's still hard for 70somethings to get past that, and that was the demographic he was aiming for.
 
Pretty sure the brand failed. Before it closed they had huge sales on everything. The current site is probably not his, someone probably bought the domain and is using it to promote their actual website.
Aye, I managed to pick up two j-Lingz t shirts for £3 each. Decent quality and good fit.
 
I actaully went and had a look. Didn;t he used to have his own clothing line?

All that is on there now is nike and other brand trainers, no jlingz branded stuff at all.
Contact information
Phone number: 13654937113

Email: hphilip744@gmail.com

Physical address: Baoying County Yangzhou, 225800 Jiangsu, China

I am pretty sure Lingard isn't involved anymore with jlingz.com
 
I was cheap clothes from AliBaba. They just slap Juicy Juiced on that bad boy and I have brand.

As long there are sheeps, there will be a wool. It's old folk saying.
 
Could be something to do with not getting an actual offer I presume .

I live in America and catch a few MLS games here and there, the quality is not good compared to the top European leagues. It's hard for me to believe that a guy like Lingard who is not that old, is somewhat of a recognizable name thanks to his United ties and is about the level required for that league wouldn't get an offer, probably has more to do with his wage demands.
 
He has literally no reason or motive to lie about loving playing for United.

You and some other idiots on here just decided to get twisted up in this irrational need on the caf to hate every player that play for us.

I'm not twisted or irrational that Herrera (a good but not great player) left. I just think he's full of shit.

He ran his contract down to leave for more money, I've no problem with that. But he should just own it, instead of spouting waffle.
 
I'm not twisted or irrational that Herrera (a good but not great player) left. I just think he's full of shit.

He ran his contract down to leave for more money, I've no problem with that. But he should just own it, instead of spouting waffle.

According to him he wanted to stay, and your assumption that he is full of shit is just that, an assumption based on 0 evidence one way or the other. Well apart from the evidence of Herrera himself directly contradicting it, the club running multiple other players contracts down at the same time, etc.

You've literally just made it up so you can hate on him. I could understand this if it was some player who was generally a twat or joined City or something. Herrwra has literally never done a single thing that would cause any remotely rational fan to want to hate him.

Grow up
 
Is it me or is there a higher number of these idiots now? Seem to want all that goes with being a rich footballer without doing what's needed to sustain it or be as good as possible. Sancho, lingard, pogba, all cut from the same cloth
I don’t think Pogba should be put in the same category as Sancho, Lingard or Martial. He actually won a few league titles, won a World Cup, played in UCL final and Euros final. He had made it at the very top level, just that didn’t maintain his level.

Lingard, Sancho, Martial never reached half of the heights Pogba reached.
 
I was cheap clothes from AliBaba. They just slap Juicy Juiced on that bad boy and I have brand.

As long there are sheeps, there will be a wool. It's old folk saying.
And now you're a RedCafe poster, proof that you can be anything if you work hard enough
 
I don’t think Pogba should be put in the same category as Sancho, Lingard or Martial. He actually won a few league titles, won a World Cup, played in UCL final and Euros final. He had made it at the very top level, just that didn’t maintain his level.

Lingard, Sancho, Martial never reached half of the heights Pogba reached.

You're right, he won a world cup and scored in the final, but I think you could have put an average player in that juve side and they'd have still won the leagues. In terms of ability, which pogba had much more of, the level of squandering is similar. Mostly though, attitude and character wise, I think these players typify the failings after ferguson. That lingard video from the bus v west ham away still bothers me, as do all the stupid training ground videos that people sometimes think dont matter- but they do. These guys were a huge part in the falling standards at united and if pogba had a real pair of balls he'd have used his talent and personality to lead a team, not prance about like an idiot for most of his time here
 
You're right, he won a world cup and scored in the final, but I think you could have put an average player in that juve side and they'd have still won the leagues. In terms of ability, which pogba had much more of, the level of squandering is similar. Mostly though, attitude and character wise, I think these players typify the failings after ferguson. That lingard video from the bus v west ham away still bothers me, as do all the stupid training ground videos that people sometimes think dont matter- but they do. These guys were a huge part in the falling standards at united and if pogba had a real pair of balls he'd have used his talent and personality to lead a team, not prance about like an idiot for most of his time here

On the bus against West ham, he just recorded a video where he stuck his tongue out as far as I know. That's about it. I don't think that's how his career declined. I think he underperformed and miserable middle-aged guys are blaming his social media because its something they dislike anyway.

I mean for God's sake, Grealish regularly gets pissed and he just won a treble.
 
My impression is that he likely has more than enough money to retire, and so isn't fussed about joining a Championship team or relocating for the sake of it. Holding out for a move that interests him, either financially, or location wise. Similiar for De Gea (although obviously De Gea would have better clubs interested, but also De Gea is likely considerably wealthier as well). Maybe after a few more months they will get restless and just want to play, but i also wouldnt be surprised if they just retired.

I'm surprised we don't see it more frequently honestly. Players who have played at the top have, if they have been even semi sensible, multi-generational wealth by the time they're 30 or even mid 20s. De Gea might have, at a speculative but not unreasonable guess, somewhere in the region of £10m in the bank. Possibly considerably more. He could easily accrue £500k+ a year or so passive income from interest/dividends/investments etc for doing nothing. Lingard I doubt has that much, but enough to live off comfortably. And that's without considering they likely have financial advisors who have invested money on their behalf wisely, or having assets like property that have accumulated in wealth. I imagine there's also 100s of footballers who have turned millions into multiple millions through property or investments or crypto even.

I suspect over the next few years/decades we will see more players retire early. Some will obviously be motivated to play at a lower level for the love of the game (or because its expected/its all the know), but others with outside interests, or who don't want to relocate, I think we'll see more and more retire earlier.
 
'Jesse' used to be homophobic shorthand for feminine man and it's still hard for 70somethings to get past that, and that was the demographic he was aiming for.
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Aye, I managed to pick up two j-Lingz t shirts for £3 each. Decent quality and good fit.
Bargain innit. And when you're bored of them you can donate it to a charity or summat, I'm sure kids will appreciate it they love JLingz.
 
My impression is that he likely has more than enough money to retire, and so isn't fussed about joining a Championship team or relocating for the sake of it. Holding out for a move that interests him, either financially, or location wise. Similiar for De Gea (although obviously De Gea would have better clubs interested, but also De Gea is likely considerably wealthier as well). Maybe after a few more months they will get restless and just want to play, but i also wouldnt be surprised if they just retired.

I'm surprised we don't see it more frequently honestly. Players who have played at the top have, if they have been even semi sensible, multi-generational wealth by the time they're 30 or even mid 20s. De Gea might have, at a speculative but not unreasonable guess, somewhere in the region of £10m in the bank. Possibly considerably more. He could easily accrue £500k+ a year or so passive income from interest/dividends/investments etc for doing nothing. Lingard I doubt has that much, but enough to live off comfortably. And that's without considering they likely have financial advisors who have invested money on their behalf wisely, or having assets like property that have accumulated in wealth. I imagine there's also 100s of footballers who have turned millions into multiple millions through property or investments or crypto even.

I suspect over the next few years/decades we will see more players retire early. Some will obviously be motivated to play at a lower level for the love of the game (or because its expected/its all the know), but others with outside interests, or who don't want to relocate, I think we'll see more and more retire earlier.

De Gea made over 100 million on his salary only. He also made money from ads, endorsements, etc. He probably has considerably more than 10 million.
 
De Gea made over 100 million on his salary only. He also made money from ads, endorsements, etc. He probably has considerably more than 10 million.

Possibly, I was verging on the lower end. But, take out tax, take out living expenses, his home, cars, money to friends, family and charity, its possible. Some players earn shit loads and go completely broke. If he has less than £10m left I'd think he's been reckless. If he's been sensible could well be much higher.
 
In my opinion the youth academy needs a serious rethink in terms of discipline. Too many top players (Ravel, Lingard, Pogba, Greenwood etc) had lost their way. In my opinion the United's spot light is too big for young players to thrive in. Maybe its time we sign a deal with a feeder club. Alternatively we can do what I suspect we're doing this January ie we sell those players and add buy back clauses to the deal.
 
Mate, even if you make it to the bench in Luton you are so far beyond average its not even funny. Anyone who even sniffs a Premier League matchday squad is among the elite of the elite of all footballers on the planet.

These players might be average in the Premier League but to say that they are plain average is a bit of fanfiction.

There are 265 million registered football players globally. just north of 550 of those are registered with Premier League clubs.

Well yeah....

But, I would assume when 90% of people call a player average, they're comparing them relative to the level the player is playing at.

Compared to us mere mortals, they're obviously in a different stratosphere when it comes to footballing ability. A mate of mine was on the books of of an Irish team many years ago when a player called Gareth Farrelly was there. Farrelly bounced around some English lower tier clubs and amassed a handful of caps for Ireland. My mate said the gulf between him and rest of the team was astronomical.
 
On the bus against West ham, he just recorded a video where he stuck his tongue out as far as I know. That's about it. I don't think that's how his career declined. I think he underperformed and miserable middle-aged guys are blaming his social media because its something they dislike anyway.

I mean for God's sake, Grealish regularly gets pissed and he just won a treble.

Sorry but he was literally screaming then lying in the aisle saying mummy over and over. Joking or not it was embarrassing behavior and that he thought it suitable to share tells you where his head is at. Its not just middle age guys either, most guys I know detested the way he presented himself on social media. It wasn't even that he used social media its how he acted on it. Of course we got absolutely bullied at that west ham game. I remember Carrick sitting calmly on the bus probably thinking what the feck happened to the 2008 squad
 
According to him he wanted to stay, and your assumption that he is full of shit is just that, an assumption based on 0 evidence one way or the other. Well apart from the evidence of Herrera himself directly contradicting it, the club running multiple other players contracts down at the same time, etc.

Well it's based on the evidence that he turned down a contract offer and left, he could have stayed if he wanted to. So there's that I suppose.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sampil...fered-to-almost-double-ander-herreras-salary/

You've literally just made it up so you can hate on him. I could understand this if it was some player who was generally a twat or joined City or something. Herrwra has literally never done a single thing that would cause any remotely rational fan to want to hate him.

Grow up

Which is ironic as you've literally just made up a little narrative that I hate Herrera.

:lol:

Anyway this is a Lingard thread, if you want to discuss Herrera feel free to quote me in a Herrera thread mate.
 
According to him he wanted to stay, and your assumption that he is full of shit is just that, an assumption based on 0 evidence one way or the other. Well apart from the evidence of Herrera himself directly contradicting it, the club running multiple other players contracts down at the same time, etc.

You've literally just made it up so you can hate on him. I could understand this if it was some player who was generally a twat or joined City or something. Herrwra has literally never done a single thing that would cause any remotely rational fan to want to hate him.

Grow up
You’re in for a shock! There’s a few on here who seemingly have an intense dislike for Herrera - to my surprise as well. Seemed a good professional, always spoke well - wanted to stay but the contract offer was late and PSG offered more money which we rightfully didn’t match.
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Sorry but he was literally screaming then lying in the aisle saying mummy over and over. Joking or not it was embarrassing behavior and that he thought it suitable to share tells you where his head is at. Its not just middle age guys either, most guys I know detested the way he presented himself on social media. It wasn't even that he used social media its how he acted on it. Of course we got absolutely bullied at that west ham game. I remember Carrick sitting calmly on the bus probably thinking what the feck happened to the 2008 squad

So there's a connection between Lingards behaviour on Instagram and us losing to West Ham? I could believe that if only our players acted daft on social media.
 
So there's a connection between Lingards behaviour on Instagram and us losing to West Ham? I could believe that if only our players acted daft on social media.

Yes, there is. You're setting up a false equivalence here I think. Im talking about a descent into a dressing room that lacked any leadership, to the point that Lingard, Pogba and a couple of other morons were ascendant, and the stuff we saw at West Ham (youve weirdly ignored that your original claim about what happened was understating it hugely. This just feels like moving goalposts, or contrarianism for the sake of it) was so unchecked that it existed with Lingard also a) tweeting during a munich anniversary, b) tweeting his logo with a message about the manchester bombing, and c) releasing a holiday video so crass that it earned a reprimand from solskjaer. This is before we even venture near the typical PL footballer nonsense of dressing room dancing, haircuts, or the beans videos. If you think that exists to that extent in other PL dressing rooms, I'd like to know where- again Im talking about the extent, not isolated examples - because I believe in any half decent dressing room, even our current one, Lingard would have been kept in line way way more.

So yes, I think there is a link between losers like Lingard and their profesionalism and behaviour, and us capitulating to a vaguely hostile west ham team and crowd. I find it hard to fathom that anybody could think a dressing room where Lingards level of bullshit was so relentless doesnt speak to the standards that had taken root and we're still trying to weed out today
 
He’s been out of football for over 6 months and even Saudi won’t touch his demands. Any half serious player would be doing whatever they can to get back on the field it’s shocking honestly

Football especially at the top level is an extremely short career imagine looking back in 10 years knowing you’ve thrown potentially a year away
 
Didn’t Forest drop him from their squad for most of last season because he was so bad?

I just don’t think he’s that good
 
As I’ve said previously, a whole season out with no professional football played (with no injuries) seems like a career killer. It’s a pretty cutthroat, fast moving industry where through no fault of your own and all the luck in the world being injury free, you can still lose your gig quickly.

Both him and DDG are crazy if they think they’re going to find clubs that are going to meet their demands that were satiated by our dumb as feck owners. They’re more than entitled to do whatever they want, whether people want to mock them for it, but they can’t cry if come summer that no worthwhile club wants them and they went an entire season without playing a single minute through choice seemingly.
 
As I’ve said previously, a whole season out with no professional football played (with no injuries) seems like a career killer. It’s a pretty cutthroat, fast moving industry where through no fault of your own and all the luck in the world being injury free, you can still lose your gig quickly.

Both him and DDG are crazy if they think they’re going to find clubs that are going to meet their demands that were satiated by our dumb as feck owners. They’re more than entitled to do whatever they want, whether people want to mock them for it, but they can’t cry if come summer that no worthwhile club wants them and they went an entire season without playing a single minute through choice seemingly.
It's especially bizarre when you consider Lingard essentially blamed United for wasting a year of his career after the West Ham loan. He's now free to do as he pleases and he hasn't been able to find a club for the last 6 months.

It points to how toxic the culture at this club is/must've been if you have multiple senior players like him and De Gea who are happy to not play football for months at a time because the contract doesn't quite suit them. Their egos must be huge.
 
In my opinion the youth academy needs a serious rethink in terms of discipline. Too many top players (Ravel, Lingard, Pogba, Greenwood etc) had lost their way. In my opinion the United's spot light is too big for young players to thrive in. Maybe its time we sign a deal with a feeder club. Alternatively we can do what I suspect we're doing this January ie we sell those players and add buy back clauses to the deal.

Wow, a devilish post I agree with! To varying extents, you can also add the likes of Januzaj, Macheda and Wilson to the list (all I believe have publicly stated they lost focus after making the first team, thinking they had made it). There's others who fell off the map even before reaching the first team like Gribbin, Petrucci and probably many more lower profile talents who didn't reach their potential. There also seems to have been more than a fair share of academy players who have had career destabilising injury records (or a combo of injuries/mentality) - Tuanzebe, W. Keane, Thorpe, M. James, which might suggest some issues (although most of these are quite some time ago).

There's possibly been some improvements in recent years, hard to tell because it takes many years to bear fruit. But we have Mainoo and Garnacho, a few on the periphary like Gore, Kwambala, possibly Fernandez/Hannibal, whilst there's several players who have left who at least look like becoming solid PL players. Hopefully we see these kids progress plus more youngsters coming through in the next few years. But ensuring they stay on track and not distracted has to be a top priority.
 
It's especially bizarre when you consider Lingard essentially blamed United for wasting a year of his career after the West Ham loan. He's now free to do as he pleases and he hasn't been able to find a club for the last 6 months.

It points to how toxic the culture at this club is/must've been if you have multiple senior players like him and De Gea who are happy to not play football for months at a time because the contract doesn't quite suit them. Their egos must be huge.
Yeah - what's their motivation to play football like at this point? They're both multi-multi millionaires, they've both been at one of the biggest clubs in the world. In some respects I don't blame them for not wanting to drop down a level but it's absolutely damning of them as professional footballers really. If they gave two shits about playing football for the love of the game if nothing else - they'd have clubs, for sure.