It feels like a slightly disingenuous argument. When you think about it, you can't really call Jay Spearing a poor player when there are 8 billion people in the world and only 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% ever get to fly a fighter jet.
Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'
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Its not though. You can make a perfectly good argument that Jesse is not good enough for Manchester United, but to suggest that national team players are somehow bad footballers is outright false
An average footballer is what people were saying, and half a season at West Ham and a handful of short purple patches at United aside, it's hard to argue against. Is he a better player than me? Yep, but is he better than most Premier League players? No. He's an average to decent player.
You never know. On one day that West Ham fan Steve Davies was better than Lee Chapman.
Apparently after £180k/week from West Ham.
Hes leaving the only club who give out silly contracts, no chance
Hes leaving the only club who give out silly contracts, no chance
Good for him. Never sell yourself short
What a waste of 2 years of a career, and 2 years of wages from United. Needed to go the summer after Bruno was signed. Stupid decisions from both camps on this one.
Can we just pay up his contract to officially get rid of him a month early please?
If true truly deluded.
I would love it if he can’t find a club after this. It would serve him right if he ends up at Accrington Stanley on 50 quid a week
Greedy entitled fecker demanding 180k when he has done literally nothing other than prancing around on social media and spreading poison
Agree that he is not the best footballer or comes across a guy who knows how to conduct himself but at least he didnt cost us much as he is our academy product. so I dont have anything against him. People on forum talk like he was a 100M failure so it surprises me.
We gave him a chance but unfortunately not succeeded here. We spent lot on others who were more underwhelming than Jesse and I am saying this even I was never a fan of Jesse. Good that he played well in few matches under LVG/Jose and we got some loan money from west ham. Nothing more about him so better we move on.
Given his behaviour over the last year or so in running down his contract I'd be willing to believe he is looking for £180k per week. But he's not going to find that at clubs like West Ham, their top earner is apparently that twat Zouma on £100k per week. So West Ham aren't going to shatter their wage structure and make Lingard their highest paid player on nearly double the next highest paid player.
Has he considered a collaboration? I belive that is considered a valid form of payment for an influencer.
What date does his contract expire? Is it 30th June
His rationale is probably that a club has saved £20m on a fee, so he should get it instead and a nice wage on top to get to that £180k a week.
Problem is, he forgets clubs were unwilling to pay ANY transfer fee for him, so the only thing making him a attractive signing is the fact he's a freebie.
It is more his behavior that annoyed anyone, not how much he cost or not. Acted like an idiot despite being a poor player.
This forum 
One guy pops in and says "heard he's looking for 180k!"
Instantly taken as fact and not questioned.
One guy pops in and says "heard he's looking for 180k!"
Instantly taken as fact and not questioned.
Yes.
It’s not even that unreasonable when you factor in how it’s likely to be broken down. Assuming that number has come from some media report it’ll be an equivalence rather than a wages figure.This forum
One guy pops in and says "heard he's looking for 180k!"
Instantly taken as fact and not questioned.
Let’s say his agent is asking for £100k per week, on a 4 year deal. Then a signing on fee of £10m because there’s no transfer fee (a standard thing to request).
Then there’s an agent fee of, say, £5m.
That’s £35.8m, which over 4 years works out at £172k per week, and would give a Sun journo enough to talk about “Lingard demanding deal worth £180k per week”.
That’s even without image rights.
I don't know if anyone knows how the image rights thing works, I mean how is it monetized over a period of time say a season. I don't really understand how it works and would really like to, I mean a player with the profile of Lingard wouldn't earn much if anything from it or is it that every pro football player has a base amount they would expect to earn from their image rights every season?
I was only quoting numerous West Ham fans who'd apparently heard itThis forum
One guy pops in and says "heard he's looking for 180k!"
Instantly taken as fact and not questioned.
And I did say no chance.
It fluctuates from player to player but is dependent upon the club making commercial use of their image and also whether the club are willing to pay for that. It’s not something all players have.
Lingard will have an image rights company which will invoice the club once or twice per year for an agreed amount. It will also be where his boot deal and other sponsorship money goes.
Can't we just cancel his contract already and literally kick him onto the pavement, with his stupid brother.
Don't believe it for a second. Has to be his camp spreading this rumor, but they need to make it at least somewhat believable... WH's highest paid player is the animal abuser at 120k/w.I mean the salary makes sense to me. Whichever team buys him will get JLingz branded jerseys. No-brainer
But if WH get JLingz, there won't be a transfer fee. So, over the full term of the contract, it would be cheaper to sign JLingz for free, with high wages, than to buy another player at low wages + a transfer fee.
This is now becoming the default way of thinking among footballers aiming for their last contract - they leave on a free and sign up for big wages.
People in the thread can't even agree on what a contracted player is actually earning, but most immediately believe any random figure a player is rumoured to be requesting.
Bonkers if the Lingards of the world are earning £100k a week full stop.
Depends on how clubs manage transfer fees and wages.
A lot of deals are done over 5 year staggered periods, in that time (especially with United) the player ends up getting a bigger contract and signing fee, so it may not always be the case one is better than the other, in all scenarios.
How would anyone actually know though?
You can Google any players wages but all you'll find is probably guesses at best.
If United are a publically traded company, the salaries have to be revealed somewhere.
Here is what I've found (snippet)
Annual & Per Week
Aaron Wan-Bissaka D 22 £4,680,000 £90,000
Eric Bailly D 26 £4,160,000 £80,000
Phil Jones D 28 £3,900,000 £75,000
Jesse Lingard F 27 £3,900,000 £75,000
Edinson Cavani F 33 £9,640,000 £210,000
Annual & Per Week
Aaron Wan-Bissaka D 22 £4,680,000 £90,000
Eric Bailly D 26 £4,160,000 £80,000
Phil Jones D 28 £3,900,000 £75,000
Jesse Lingard F 27 £3,900,000 £75,000
Edinson Cavani F 33 £9,640,000 £210,000
The fact Lingard will have some image rights pumped into his contract tells you how fecked football is.
Perhaps so but we were talking about Zouma's wages at West Ham. Haven't enough interest beyond a quick Google for that information.
Outlasted and outclassed Rangnick
That's the thing, particularly with all the appearance bonuses, image rights and all the rest, it's impossible to know. Gives me some hope Sancho isn't on £350k per week! basic
Dunno about US rules, but in the UK you only have to list wage bill and the salary of the board, not all of the staff.
I guess ETH is his 9th united manager if we include caretakers.
Genuine question. Who buys his stuff?
I bought two T-shirt’s off there a few years ago. They were going for three quid.
Is he still here...?
June 30 is when his contract expires right? With each day I get increasingly nervous we're going to offer him a new deal.