Putting football to one side...on a human level I was so pleased for him last night.
35
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 30
- Clean sheets
- 8
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 1
- Yellow cards
- 2
Absolutely this.
I think we all need to see this again to remember what management involves sometimes, and also ask yourself how would you feel if you saw Ten Hag doing this to someone like Sancho for example:
There's a reason players like Evans are professional and have high standards.
On this, Fergie said after the game:
There's a reason players like Evans are professional and have high standards.
On this, Fergie said after the game:
So happy for him. I love talented and hardworking academy players.
Very pleased and happy. Egg on the face who criticized him as soon as they saw him on the line up. People just don't understand what a 5th choice means.
Played it safe to Lindelof always.
Our old boys are much better than some of our players. Evans,Young, Welbeck.
Played it safe to Lindelof always.
Our old boys are much better than some of our players. Evans,Young, Welbeck.
Him, Rafael, Welbeck, Nani, Chica.. all good squad players that Van Gaal in his ego sold and replaced with dross. That's when our decline started. Of all our managers, I dislike Van Gaal the most.
I'd fecking love it.
Fcuk these crying over paid man babies who don't like someone telling them they are doing shit at their job.
I don't agree at all. Scoring Bruno a 5.1 for the season is completely underappreciating the value of his performances. Whoscored have him as 7.27 which is a much fairer reflection IMO.
Me too but there’s a bunch of people more concerned about mental health than there is accountability.
Great comment goes to show some people on here know jack about football Morgan and Huth were the Centre back pairing
I see him as similar signing to what Wout was last season. A pragmatic deal to cover what was meant to be emergency situations with a guarantee of a professional performance, be it good or bad so to speak. The issue is first teamers can’t stay fit.
Will always give the club 100 per cent.
Will always give the club 100 per cent.
It's top level sport not a rehab clinic. If you don't have the mentality required to knuckle down and do whatever it takes to win. Then you're in the wrong place. As someone said about Sergio Ramos, he'd kill his granny to win", that's the mentality you need to succeed at the top.
He wasn’t at LCFC then, it was Huth and their captain Morgan
I'd have him over Lindeloff in the pecking order.
While he is over the hill now he's still a Ferguson player. He has the mentality you need to succeed at this club and I don't know why we sold him in the first place.
Modern players wouldn't be able to handle Fergie. Nowadays if a manager speaks to his players like that he risks losing the dressing room.
Naa. It started the moment Fergie retired, not two years later because we sold decent players, some of whom were good talents who didn't quite develope as we hoped for.
Excellent 5th/6th choice CB.
Experienced, professional, mature, winning mentality, an academy product, loves the club, can set a good example for others, will be happy get the odd game here and there, no transfer fee and reasonable wages. And, a pretty decent footballer.
Experienced, professional, mature, winning mentality, an academy product, loves the club, can set a good example for others, will be happy get the odd game here and there, no transfer fee and reasonable wages. And, a pretty decent footballer.
The player ratings are basically an extension of the unhinged kneejerk comments in the matchday thread.Just checked and Bruno Fernandes has a 5.1 average, which is even lower than Jadon Sancho's rating.
People forget how useful a player Evans was in his day. He was quality, particularly when partnering Vidic.
If you have the wrong players, then yes. If you have the right players then they expect to get chewed out if they're not up to standards, like anyone else in any line of work with the correct attitude.
Correct me if I am wrong, didn't he partner Vidic quite a lot in 08/09 for a clean sheet record?
Indeed, they complimented each other well and the run of 13 successive clean sheets was excellent.
Played 17 in the prem that season, so nearly every other game and in total.
Rafael wasn’t better than Valencia as a FB.
Wellbeck wanted out because he was not going to play ahead of Rooney and RVP.
Nani did not want to transition into a striker and wanted out.
There seems to be a memory issues on this forum. It’s fashionable to pile on LVG for his boring football but the PR campaign should stop now, the guy failed like majority of managers do but the distortions are out of hand.
The information overload was the problem in the LVG era and our players from the SAF era struggled with that. Now it’s the norm but then it wasn’t. The players that were ready to accept the direction of football stayed on and we saw how even Jose trusted them.
Evans was just not favoured over Smalling and Jones. Plus that obsession with left footed LCB.
Our decline started with us not having a DOF in the later years of SAF reign.
Fergie was unique. The players would have to handle it or they'd be out the door. I remember in one of his interviews, one of the first things he did was get the whole staff together in a hall and tell all of them that they had to change because he wasn't going to change. Anyone who didn't was quickly dealt with.
If Fergie came along today in his prime I have no doubts he'd be just as effective, he is a force of nature.
I think it’s fine to sell players who may be in decline but could still provide value - provided you replace them well. Pep does a very good job of this, van Gaal and United in general have been very poor at this after Fergie left.
There is not much you can do to a player who is content to just earn his wage whilst sitting in the terraces and doesn't have any professional pride. The biggest mistake we are making, or that's being made on our behalf, is to offer players who have achieved anything outrageous contracts. The moment a player is attracted to you because of the money on offer you have encountered the biggest red flag.
On Evans, its only Burnley but I think we have found the perfect role player albeit with a poor fitness record. It suits us down to tee in that he will be required to play a few games a month and thus will be fresh and also won't be too strained. He is still quality, he can play out from the back and he reads the game well. He will be an asset this season.
The players we need to upgrade on are Maguire and Lindelof and if possible just sign one top player who is good enough to challenge and/or displace Varane. Sell Lindelof and Maguire then have Varane + new signing + Evans + a youth prospect as our choices at RCB.
Was worried when I saw Evans was starting yesterday but he was excellent. Calmness personified and showed his experience. VAR ruined the fairytale goal
We are completely in the wrong thread but come on mate, we played 7 matches this season, lost 4, won 3, scored 10, conceded 14, had more possession in 2 out of 7 (Wolves was 51%), xG 11.6 and xGA of 12.4. No player deserves a rating better than 5.5 overall, whoscored rating him higher should give you an idea how their scoring system is badly weighted.
Van Gaal was the lowest lowpoint for me in the post-Ferguson era. Unlike Moyes and Ole, he had actually accomplished something in his career so high expectations were reasonable. But his management was abysmal and the team "philosophy" was horrifying beyond belief.
Man Utd 3:0 Crystal Palace
Another brief but good performance
He's improved a lot aerially. Used to be weak as piss for us
He is an emergency cb at 5th choice, you Hope you'd dont have to rely on him but thank feck he is useful.
Looks like a very smart signing as a backup.
Has been surprisingly excellent so far. Was he this good for Leicester? Looks like he wasn't playing many games for them which is weird.
Jonny Evans is a Red...
He was always their best defender. Even when Maguire was there. Last 2 seasons I think he struggled with injury.
Rafael was at the very least better than Darmian for us, Welbeck was happy being 3rd choice for years and Nani has said that he ultimately left because Van Gaal came in and told him that he had no time or patience and wanted rid.
Van Gaal was horrendous and your assertion that his ideas were just too clever for our thick players is ridiculous. Part of being a good coach is making those complex ideas easily understandable to individual players.
I wasn’t talking about his ability as a coach and what I think of it wasn’t my statement.
Some of your declarations about the players don’t add up.
We came into that first season with a 352 and Nani also said in a BBC interview in October 2014 that he wanted out of the club before Moyes came in.
Wellbeck wanted to stay and be 3rd choice?
How can you still hold the belief Rafael is a better player than Darmian as backup, when Darmian can play as a RB, LB and CB.