I don't argue against anything. I am only explaining Mou's POV
The whole point of the chant IS that it was Forlan, a huge flop in his time here, that made them cry.
What's your issue with O'Shea? By all accounts he had a great career at United. I think you are missing the point of a cult hero.
Has Jose actually commented on this or are you using your psychic powers?
So why don't you just follow a continental club? You clearly don't get a massive part of the clubs culture/uniqueness?
I don't think he thinks it's silly though does he? He laughs and says 'Nice - I love Forlan'.
This. Taking the piss with a whole thing. Even Jose got it.
its really not. feck me. fans are singing about a moment they enjoyed and its not like we aren't the club with the most titles in the league. piss taking is fun. lighten up
I am referring to South Europe's mentality (ie who share similar mentality to Mou).
I absolutely adore him. What a player he was.
He was an ordinary enough player who played an important role in our squad during a golden period. What's not to like? It's every fans dream.
So Southern European clubs don't have cult heroes like Forlan? I find that hard to believe.
I think I answered to that. We're going in circles here and I seem to hit a hornet's nest.
It's a cultural clash that doesn't exist. You've already admited Padalino at Juve is a classic cult hero, in the mould of Forlan by the sounds of things. I'd say if we went through every club in Spain, Italy and Portugal we'd find similar figures. 'Joke' players and cult heroes are part of football fan culture. There was no need for the cheap shot in your OP. That is all from me.
That might be true. I don't think it's a positive thing though, at least not from my perspective. And you hear a lot of players and managers admiring the the football culture and the fans in England and this is a big part of it. Jose himself has said there's nothing like it anywhere else and he obviously prefers it to Spain. So, I'm not sure you're representing his POV, as you think you are.
I doubt Carrick phrased his words like that.
I also met him.
I've already answered to that and I already highlighted the differences
Sigh. O'Shea was much better than you give credit for. It's not about being a 'top red'.
as said before.....
I had forgotten about that game. Also notable for playing Roy Keane in central defence.
This
a- I am not moaning at fans. I simply gave my opinion why Mou thought that chanting about Forlan was silly.
The city is a crap hole?
You're right and I apologise. Hence why I corrected it
You're miserable aren't you? Perhaps we should stick to singing about players who score 40+ goals a season for us and everyone else is off limits? It's a club tradition, you're very much an individual in this case if you don't like it
This might actually be the worst post I've ever read on this or any other football related forum, well done.
Some stories are tragic (Robin Friday), but most of it, ffs.
