Kill 'em all
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I think van Gaal considers Mata as our best number 10 and the feeling I get from his interviews is that we will drop RVP or Rooney if we switch to a 4-3-3 variant.
I have always said this, signing mata defeats the point in the need of playing 2 strikers, he is your classic number 10 that thrives in a 4231 system, 2 wingers who can stretch the play, and a striker he can feed the ball to. He is a pretty impressive goalscorer, and if you have speed on the wings either side of him, his passing ability can advanced the wingers, and the wingers gives him the space to work his magic. So if VG tries a 4231 with di maria and janazaj either side of him, with rooney or RVP up top, the juan mata signing is like a new signingI sort of agree with you, at times with Mata it's like playing with an additional striker which makes him redundant in a 2 striker system I think he will be able to find more space and create more chances in a 4 3 3.
Although I don't agree with him not creating enough chances. He created 3 times as many clear cut chances as goals.
No.Anyone think he'll be moved on/used as a makeweight for a potential new signing before the end of the window?
I agree, mate, but there's been too much anti-Mata talk from respected United men in recent months for there not to be more to it.
he played every game so far, cant see him leaving. Why should he, Kagawa is as good as gone.I agree, mate, but there's been too much anti-Mata talk from respected United men in recent months for there not to be more to it.
We all know the lack of pace in our attacking triumvirate of van Persie, Rooney and Mata is a hindrance and if push comes to shove, there's one man who's more expendable than the other two under the current regime.
Agree. He won't leave because he's clearly ahead of Kagawa in the pecking order. If anything it'll be Shinji that goes.he played every game so far, cant see him leaving. Why should he, Kagawa is as good as gone.
different positions. Mata isnt a CM/DM. Herrera will have good chances.He's now been dropped from the Spanish squad along with Torres. With Xavi & Xabi retiring, thought there will be need for midfielders, but seems Mata's slipping in the ranks there.
Amazing player but I can see why José got rid. His touch and finishing is excellent as well as his passing but he is too slow to be striker and too lightweight for midfield.
I agree 100%. I can also see why Jose got rid but I can't understand why Moyes paid 37million for yet another no10 who wants to play in the hole. The team lacks power and pace, and lots of money being spent on players who seem to have everything except pace eg Mata, Fellaini and even Herrara for that matter.
I agree with this. i don't think he has been good but he's been better than those two.Its a travesty if he's dropped ahead of Rooney/RVP.
If he is dropped, then why LVG let kagawa go. Makes no senseIts a travesty if he's dropped ahead of Rooney/RVP.
Di Maria hasn't done bad...He needs players making runs and the ball to feet. Our defence have hoofed it over 30 times in this match. How are playmakers meant to get into the game with that sort of service?
Don't expect too many to understand this, they will all be blaming him. Anyway still, Mata, Rooney and RvP don't work, only two out of those three can play at once!!He needs players making runs and the ball to feet. Our defence have hoofed it over 30 times in this match. How are playmakers meant to get into the game with that sort of service?
I know he's been our best player, but Mata needs the ball to feet, and he rarely gets it because the team don't play to his strengths. Infact I don't think they play to any of our attacking players strengths anymore. We create nothing and the attackers just suffer.Di Maria hasn't done bad...
I think he has had the ball a few times and played poor balls into the box, you are right in some cases but he has also been a bit poor when he has got the ballI know he's been our best player, but Mata needs the ball to feet, and he rarely gets it because the team don't play to his strengths. Infact I don't think they play to any of our attacking players strengths anymore. We create nothing and the attackers just suffer.
No.Kagawa anyone?
Well yeah, he could have done better but Rooney and RVP are suffering too, so I think it's more a problem with getting the ball to any of our attacking players rather than just Mata. They are all suffering.I think he has had the ball a few times and played poor balls into the box, you are right in some cases but he has also been a bit poor when he has got the ball
Mata got the ball to his feet, slips. Sums his season up so far.I know he's been our best player, but Mata needs the ball to feet, and he rarely gets it because the team don't play to his strengths. Infact I don't think they play to any of our attacking players strengths anymore. We create nothing and the attackers just suffer.
Don't be a twat.Don't expect too many to understand this, they will all be blaming him. Anyway still, Mata, Rooney and RvP don't work, only two out of those three can play at once!!
His season, or our 3 attacking players? They are all playing below par. Wonder why that is...Mata got the ball to his feet, slips. Sums his season up so far.
Actuially his season, but the other 2 also.His season, or our 3 attacking players? They are all playing below par. Wonder why that is...
Blind is as slow as Mata is.We'd be so much more flexible without him in the side, and to be honest, he isn't proving why he should be in it. A mobile midfield three of di Maria, Herrera and Blind would work so much better.
my opinion too.We'd be so much more flexible without him in the side, and to be honest, he isn't proving why he should be in it. A mobile midfield three of di Maria, Herrera and Blind would work so much better.
Mata is slow, but Rooney and RVP are also slow, it's obviously a problem fitting them all in. I'd take Januzaj over one of the forwards.Blind is slow as Mata is.
All the front 3 are slow as feck. One of them needs to be dropped.Mata is slow, but Rooney and RVP are also slow, it's obviously a problem fitting them all in. I'd take Januzaj over one of the forwards.
If we keep these performances up, I wonder how long it will take before this becomes a running jokeKagawa anyone?