That's so wrong that I wonder if people only started to watch football in the last couple of years. He was massively talented and was already considered one of the best young talents when he was 17-18.
thumbs down from me. no matter what he does, he’ll never escape the fact he played for birmingham. i disowned my own brother for accidentally getting tickets to an edgbaston test match.
You do realize that "Europa League level" meansplaying for a PL top six Club? It's definitely nothing bad.
Never said it was bad, just saying that is wrong.
Wasnt Quaresma seen as the better talent though? Do you think that Ronaldo with Quaresma or Hazard his mentalility would still have won (multiple) the Ballon d'or?
Yeah, back then when they were really young if someone said to me that one of those 2 would become one of the best football players ever, I would have bet on Quaresma for sure. Mainly because there is a misconception that players with high levels of technique and dribbling = better talents.
to be fair that’s a decent comparison. Mata with a great burst of acceleration would have been a great player
I would much more readily group him with the more vertical, driving attacking midfielders I've seen - De Bruyne, Nedved, Gerrard, Yaya Toure, Ballack and Vidal primarily.
It's not 'bad', but Ronaldo was far more talented than 'just' Europa League level. The fact he was constantly compared to Messi (and nobody in history bar maybe Maradona comes out of that comparison well) seems to have led a huge amount of people to downplay the incredible amount of talent that he himself had. There was a reason he was being compared to the likes of Giggs and Best even before his mentality really went into overdrive, and it was his poor decision making rather than relative lack of talent that saw Rooney being higher rated in his first few years.
I’m 41, so seen a lot more than most on here.
Tell your brother he got tickets for the wrong sport.
Another sickeningly poor post. Why must we endure such nonsense?
Neither do I. He plays nothing like Zinedine Zidane. Bellingham, is a superb talent, but his ability is applying that drive, the box-to-box type power he has. He is good on the ball, for sure, but I wouldn't say he is a 'baller' though. KDB is a baller. Modric, Kroos, a different type of baller... Maddison, not on their level, but he's a baller. Eriksen, Bruno would be our closest comparisons (and Casimero can also play, wonderful on the ball when he isn't having to run around trying to win the ball back on his own.... it frustrates me that ETH hasn't addressed this) These are essentially ball-players. That isn't Bellingham's role. He brings power, focus, and commits the opposition through his dominant runs from midfield. And he wants to score goals. This has become a rarity amongst midfielders in the last decade, that's why SMT looks such an asset when he gets forward and scores goals. So important. Bellingham will inspire midfielders to be more direct, all-action, and dominant. Halaand will do the same for centre-forwards, because he has a similar approach to the game as Bellingham.. dominant, single-minded..and he looks like he's playing a different game sometimes because of it. I love watching these players...
Ronaldo could barely do an effective step over...?
Stahp! For your own good. I would suggest you watch Ronaldo in a Sporting shirt playing against us before he came to the UK. Ronaldo clearly had world class potential from the outset. All the attributes were there sans decision making and working within a team. Ronaldo also came to the country as traditional winger, not even wing-forward or any kind of serious goal contributor.And I'm 35 and have seen Ronaldo since his debut on Sporting. Not sure what is the correlation between he overdoing stuff and talent.
He absolutely was and some of the attempts to reduce him simply as product of hard work and determination are laughable to say the least .
Yes, you are correct. I worded it totally wrong in a rush. The outcomes got better. My meaning of it not being effective at the start is as you described more eloquently.
Isn't there more than one? We do occasionally just get the odd bout of random fans, I remember when Leicester started getting billy big bollocks we had a few of them here, seem to have vanished.
Erm he plays for Madrid, in midfield and scores goals.
No.
The Ronaldo that was doing stepovers and tricks vs United in the pre-season before he signed? Who in his debut used step overs to dribble past a bunch of players? What Ronaldo didn't have was great end product and a great pass when he joined but effective step overs and tricks he had from his sporting days. If anything as he got older they became less and less effective as he became more efficient.
Talking out of your arse here.
Redcafe is a broad site at this point. The General Football and Transfer forums have as many posts as the United forums. It has very good discussion and is one of the better football forums out there.
Why not? I was here years ago as it happens. United is a global club and this forum is one of the better, if not the best fan forum around. All the traction online contributes to keeping United relevant. If you would prefer us other fans to post elsewhere then campaign for it and get us removed
Perhaps I’m a bit tetchy and should give you the benefit of the doubt but to make a statement like this the day after Sir Bobby has passed..
The level of Bellingham fanboyery here is only second to Amadeus and Poch. And that's only because that genuinely may be a love story for the ages.
Am I wrong that the stepover was his signature trick when he came here? I know time blurs the memory but stepovers and explosive pace is all I can remember of early RonaldoRonaldo could barely do an effective step over when he came to England?
You can not be serious with that post, Ronaldo used to spam stepovers tricks and flicks, watch his performance against Millwall in the Fa Cup Final, that’s a ridiculous take.
Just keep quiet. While ofcourse Cristiano isn't anywhere talented as Messi, he is still much more talented then everyone else during this era.
