I played football against his dad (amateur level) and I can tell you he is definitely a Birmingham City fan. But having said that, he probably had a soft spot for Liverpool as when he was in his early teenage years, the scousers were just starting to hit the Klopp era and gathered up a lot of glory hunters.
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Henderson will be gone in another year or two. Some Liverpool fans want him replaced now (that was before his “world class” performance the other day against the mighty Senegal.
If they sign Bellingham in the summer, he will probably take a couple of years to settle with all the pressure. (young age, never played in PL, huge price tag).
When that time comes, VVD, Salah, Tiago, Fabiano, Firmino, and Robertson will all be gone or on their last legs. And Klopp will be entering his final year of his contract.
Or he can go to City and play the best years of his football with his mates, Foden, Phillips, Grealish and Haaland!
They’re man marking him off the pitch. I remember when Sancho was hanging out with Rashford and Lingard during England duty while he was at Dortmund.
We shall see, I'll respectfully disagree for now. Bundesliga performance doesn't always equate to performance at the top level. He's been fine in the CL but nothing special for me.
For the price of one Bellingham, we can get two of FDJ, Enzo Fernandez or Moises Caicedo to go alongside Casemiro and Eriksen, and have our entire midfield sorted.
It’s easy to read into this stuff but Bellingham is a kid, he plays mostly alongside Henderson, who is a seasoned pro, which means they probably have to spend a lot of time together so they know each others game on the pitch. Trent is just sitting with them because he’s got no mates and shouldn’t even be in the squad.
We negotiatied with the Haaland camp in December 2019 until he decided to sign for Dortmund around the 25th that month. (He has said many times since that he signed for Dortmund because he felt only the manager and not the club wanted him here, he was not guaranteed minutes and we didn't include a release clause in his contract.)
Greenwood had at the time Haaland signed for Dortmund started his first PL match (plenty of short sub-cameos though) and started some games in the EFL Cup and EL (goals against Rochdale, Astana, Partizan, AZ (2) and Sheffield U in around 1000 minutes). There was reason to believe Greenwood was a good talent, but there was no reason to believe Greenwood was close to Haaland levels (28 goals and 7 assists in 1464 minutes - 8 goals in 374 minutes in the CL so far that season). The argument that we didn't need Haaland because we had Greenwood was just silly.
Not as silly as the "we don't need Bellingham because we have Mainoo", but I guess you get my point.
If you have a chance of signing the next superstar in a position at 19, you do whatever it takes to get him, even if it makes the road from the academy to our first team a little bit longer for some of our talents.
I don't think we'll get Bellingham, but he would be a fantastic signing for us, even at 100M+....
This is a part of the game that Bellingham has though.
He's a scouse bastard, probably.
I only mentioned Greenwood as a counterpoint to the idea that Haaland wasn't going to get a lot of minutes at United because of his age.
Haaland was a year older and more developed physically, he wouldn't have had any problem getting a lot of games. He moved to Dortmund because of the release clause and the huge money they offered to his dad and Raiola. I don't actually believe he ever had any interest moving to United which is probably the same case for Bellingham.
Looks very much that way. He’s a class player but we need a lot more reinforcements than just in centre mid so would make no sense to blow it all on one player
Easy to say when it looks like we have no chance of signing him anyway - but something about him doesn't sit right with me. I wouldn't be too disheartened if United don't get him
He's some player. Frustrating we had him at Carrington yet couldn't convince him to join us.
Henderson was tongue in cheek when said “no he’s not going Real Madrid”
Football changes so quickly. England lose to France and Dortmound lose in the CL next round. Bellingham will be old news.
We’ll if you don’t want them to continue to be the dominant force of our league you should give a fook
Could not agree more.
We need a controller in there like Eriksen, Kroos, what Scholes was for us.
I see too much of Gerrard in Bellingham to work with Bruno.
How has Camavinga done more? He's the 3rd/4th choice CM/DM at Real Madrid, he's started 2 games in the CL (Sheriff and Leipzig - the only two group stage losses RM has had the last 2 seasons) and he's fewer caps for France despite being a year older and they tend to play worse when he's been on lately (his last two games were against Denmark (loss 0-2) and Tunisia in the WC (Lost 0-1)). All he's shown between some glimpses of greatness is that he is still work in progress. He still has a long way to go before he's the finished article.
Do you really think Musah is a better player than Bellingham?
I think any WC game is a big test for a 19 year old, and none of them are make or break tests.
If Bellingham doesn't have a dominating performance against the reigning world champions, is that defining for him at 19 do you think?
He's played 176 games in his senior career as a professional footballer, the trajectory he's had in those games defines him as a footballer, not this one game. He's the real deal no matter how the France game goes.
I don't even know why I let myself wind up, because we're not getting him. Just really like the player.
£90M price tag is a fair estimation since he’s now “PL proven” and will have a good WC. Expensive
Camavinga played an important part in Real Madrid's Champions League success. Which is more than Bellingham has achieved in his career thus far.
I didn't say Musah was a better player than Bellingham but he certainly had a better performance than him in their recent game against each other.
I'm not saying anything controversial at all.
I don't see where Liverpool get the money for him from.
Dubai or Saudi Arabia you'd assume.
I don’t think us or Liverpool will be spending that until our ownership is resolved. I don’t really care who buys us I think they all have more negatives than positives and it’s becoming a case if you can’t beat em join em! A billionaire with unlimited funds with great morals and no
Skeletons in the cupboard sure…but if not…let’s just get back to the top. Once the PL let them in…it became inevitable.
Skeletons in the cupboard sure…but if not…let’s just get back to the top. Once the PL let them in…it became inevitable.
fcuk him, had his chance.
yes even if he wanted to come we should turn him down, cutting your nose off to spite your face is always the most adult way of handling a situation.Exactly... Bellingham was smart enough to decline a bad United offer for a better career choice. Considering United's track record of signing players that don't make smart decisions and then create issues (Ronaldo, di Maria the most prominent ones) you should actually be looking for players who have that ability and who only accept a United offer if it is the right choice for their career.
Bellingham is a prime candidate for the English media heaping loads of pressure on him until he inevitably starts "underperforming" at age 23, and everyone suddenly decides he is shite.
Do not want.
Do not want.
Lot of consistent noise about him and Liverpool so I think that's where he'll go. I'm not sure Madrid need him as much. People earlier used to think Liverpool couldnt spent 100m on a player and they did last summer. He's exactly what they need given their midfield is not great.
That isn’t the automatic outcome if he goes there. We can get a different midfielder and be just fine.
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You do realize that FSG have serious money, they just haven't thrown it around as some might have expected, OK they aren't worth as much as Dubai or Saudi but they aren't short of a bob or three!
John Henry, who is just one of the group is estimated to be worth $3,6 billion, LeBron James of NBA fame is part of the group as well, they also own multiple other sports teams as well as the biggest TV station in New England
Every young talent gets massively hyped nowadays and are valued at a premium by clubs all over. Just look at the lovefest for the likes of Pedri and Gavi in Spain despite the latter not being anywhere near all that.
Bellingham is still a terrific talent and the best midfield talent the country has produced in recent years bar Foden.
He'll be a star for whoever signs him next mark my words. Ticks all the boxes already at such a young age.
Him, Pedri and Musiala will be the big names to watch from that generation of young players.
We had our chance and we blew it somehow.
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Same with a young pogba and pique.
Sadly being fine not good enough to win the league these days. We’re so far behind the noisy neighbours it’s getting very frustrating. They don’t need Bellingham to win the league though, all it means if they get him the points margin will be bigger.
He fecked us off, let's sign someone who wants to play for us regardless of talent
It doesn't mean that at all. They've had far better midfielders than him in the last 5 or 6 years.
It means no such thing.
Time will tell, it’s all hypothetical at the moment so no debate really needed.
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