Oh absolutely!
) it might produce pressure to “back the manager” that the owners would rather be without.A club without ambition to win is just a business and not worthy of having fans at all.Oh absolutely!
Those ambitious goals have to be at least tolerated by the higher-ups though. You can probably get away with it at Hoffenheim, but at a club with entitled supporters (yes even Spurs
He is extremely young for a coach. Instead of going for another job like Bayern where they can use his inexperience to unfairly jettison him. Its wiser for him to pick up a club like Spurs. With the potential to be great with decent resources which he can mould into a truly great side then end up at a Real Madrid type job in a true position of strength. The biggest problem with elite jobs is failure or being fired there more than once will linger. He can't afford at his age to go to a Real Madrid and PSG and end up in his same current shoes
First. Yes. I'm very sure it was Pochetino's decision to not spend for that one summer. Furthermore, I don't get why you keep insisting his midfield wasn't invested in. Yet the summer of the season he got fired it was he who expensively brought in Nbombele and Lo Celso. Second. Levy DID eventually sack him precisely when he got unhappy with his performance levels. I don't understand why you imagine Levy unhappy before that point.
That's the equivàlent of asking whether Real Madrid should sign Van De beek from us this summer after how his far his stock has fallen.
That is not a valid excuse for them to mutiny.
He was their longest serving recent manager. During his rebuild he did nothing to change that culture of lack of ambition. He so simply built a tram with hunger and didn't do ANYTHING with it and complacency and comfort reasserted itself. Its not ridiculous to pin their current travails on him. Its not like he went else where and instilled a winners culture there with better resources.
Poch wanted specific players in that summer and refused to accept any players not on his wanted list. Levy then failed to deliver any of those players. Is that on Poch or Levy?
It was also (further) destabilizing in the crucial phase of the season. The timing of this sacking has been catastrophic and makes the club bosses look disoriented and clueless.
Should have stopped at that.
Got to the Champions League final which remains their best result
Di Matteo won one in the similar manner, would you say he is a successful manager?
Come back to me when hes won something worthwhile with a team he had at least a hand in creating.
Well Tuchel followed it up by finishing 3rd in the league the following season unlike Di Matteo, then got sacked like every Chelsea manager does. Doesn’t mean he was a failure, think most people would think overall he did a good job at Chelsea.
Dortmund:
And? So you have any other filter conditions like team should have minimum 3 black players, 2 players wearing rainbow laces, couple of racist cnuts and domestic abusers?
Oh right, we classing 3rd in the league as a success for a manager then?
It’s acceptable when they’re behind Liverpool and City getting 90+ points, a season after winning the Champions League. Not a failure.
Yet since he left Mainz he hasn't lasted more than a couple of years in any of them.
English media gassed him up "because we have the best league in the world and the best managers"
I was going to make a similar point in the matchday thread but then thought, wasn't it Nagelsmann who wanted Mane to play as striker? Or was it a board level decision to replace Lewandowski with Mane?
If you’re looking at it on stats alone it was good but our performances were poor from January and we struggled to 3rd. Following season our pre season was abysmally planned, playing mostly players that aren’t even in the squad, the matches came too late and we started the season with fitness levels far below that other every other team. From that point on our results and performances began to align and we have continued to regress at an alarming pace.
Didn't realise you were a Liverpool fan.
Love me some points totals chat, truly the reserve of the Liverpool fan.
Would you call him a failure though?
Somebody else's team? Whose team was that?
Mainz played their two best ever Bundesliga seasons under Tuchel.
I don't think so, but I guess it just depends on who you like. I don't rate Nagelsmann that high and therefore I think they sacked him too late.
Nothing gets past Phil Jones's contract.
He lost 3 games all season with a 75% win rate the sacking was ridiculous. They‘ve lost 2 in a week since he left.
He won the champions league, he absolutely is a successful manager.
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