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Using McFred you mean?He plays a double pivot according to that. According to a few on the caf you can't adopt a double pivot as part of a progressive style of football?
Using McFred you mean?He plays a double pivot according to that. According to a few on the caf you can't adopt a double pivot as part of a progressive style of football?
All I can say is that any manager who comes in now will be doing so knowing that the idiots up top will be very involved. They’ll at least be well prepared for it and wouldn’t accept the job if it was a dealbreaker.They can't focus on coaching, because they essentially need to be prepared to "take advice" from the higher ups as and when, even on that front. It's an absolute mess.
Yep and that's why I'm so surprised Mckenna is interested. No manager should be.All I can say is that any manager who comes in now will be doing so knowing that the idiots up top will be very involved. They’ll at least be well prepared for it and wouldn’t accept the job if it was a dealbreaker.
Tactically, he (McKenna) is just a genius,” says Omari Hutchinson, a 20-year-old midfielder who spent this season on loan at Ipswich. “I have improved a lot since I came here. Him, his coaching staff and the other players have all improved me. In the attacking third, he has just told me to be free, to do what I am best at — ‘Go at players, that is why we signed you’.Tweet
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Elite managers don’t think the same way we normies do. They’ll always think that they’ll be the one to succeed no matter how many have failed before them.Yep and that's why I'm so surprised Mckenna is interested. No manager should be.
Edit- sorry thought you were a United FanAll I can say is that any manager who comes in now will be doing so knowing that the idiots up top will be very involved. They’ll at least be well prepared for it and wouldn’t accept the job if it was a dealbreaker.
But again, we have done that pretty well even in the post SAF era apart from the disaster years when managers have gotten sacked, yet we haven't even gotten close to titles which is my entire point. Sure we've gotten some 2nd's when other squads have been decimated but we still were never really close to winning. To elevate past "getting top 4 and CL" you have to develop that progressive side that can dominate most teams you play with the ball. Poch has shown enough evidence that he doesn't elevate teams at all at this point past being pretty good. Choosing him as the successor is just settling for a familiar name in my opinion with the chance it goes horribly but without the upside of "this guy could be the next top manager of an elite side".Getting top 4 regular though shows that your at least in and around the mix. And competing in the CL yearly. Rather than one year in and one year out. It also all depends on what the other teams are like. A few injuries to a team and they could go on a downfall like we seen with Liverpool a couple of season ago. We’ve seen no evidence that McKenna could challenge for titles… at least with Poch he came 2nd with a spurs team and only 7 pts behind top. Tuchel would probably get us challenging the quickest with his tough approach but like you said he has his own drawbacks and he certainly wouldn’t be long term.
Yeah it's the same reason we have player pull at United even after being a dumpster fire for the past decade. Players see the history and size of the club and think "I can be a legend there" without realizing that they'll have to receive passes from Scott McTominay and Wan BissakaElite managers don’t think the same way we normies do. They’ll always think that they’ll be the one to succeed no matter how many have failed before them.
McKenna (or any of the other candidates we’re interested) will see the players they’ll have at Chelsea and think “feck me, this is an insane leap from where I was before” and feel they have to jump at the opportunity.
The thing is, even if he isn't successful in terms of trophies for Chelsea, as long as the team does decently well his career will be better off than doing decent with Ipswich. He will get other big gigs post Chelsea, if they do even just alright.Elite managers don’t think the same way we normies do. They’ll always think that they’ll be the one to succeed no matter how many have failed before them.
McKenna (or any of the other candidates we’re interested) will see the players they’ll have at Chelsea and think “feck me, this is an insane leap from where I was before” and feel they have to jump at the opportunity.
I agree the Chelsea squad is very tempting. If either United or Chelsea either get de Zerbi or McKenna, I think both will be in good hands.Elite managers don’t think the same way we normies do. They’ll always think that they’ll be the one to succeed no matter how many have failed before them.
McKenna (or any of the other candidates we’re interested) will see the players they’ll have at Chelsea and think “feck me, this is an insane leap from where I was before” and feel they have to jump at the opportunity.
Name and shame. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heardHe plays a double pivot according to that. According to a few on the caf you can't adopt a double pivot as part of a progressive style of football?
There is always a problem with players that are already highly paid. I mean how do you motivate millionaires?There seems to be this weird belief that no manager can possibly get our highly expensive squad playing well, despite making numerous high value purchases while the Glazers are still involved.
I think it might be the other way. As a normie, I'd take the Chelsea job because at least you know you have the talent there at every position, really. If McKenna takes the United job it might because he thinks that given a bit of time (say 1.5 seasons at minimum barring insanely poor results, instead of 3 months or whatever the Chelsea realistic minimum is) he will succeed even with less talent.Elite managers don’t think the same way we normies do. They’ll always think that they’ll be the one to succeed no matter how many have failed before them.
McKenna (or any of the other candidates we’re interested) will see the players they’ll have at Chelsea and think “feck me, this is an insane leap from where I was before” and feel they have to jump at the opportunity.
Genius tactic.Tactically, he (McKenna) is just a genius,” says Omari Hutchinson, a 20-year-old midfielder who spent this season on loan at Ipswich. “I have improved a lot since I came here. Him, his coaching staff and the other players have all improved me. In the attacking third, he has just told me to be free, to do what I am best at — ‘Go at players, that is why we signed you’.
I know its nitpicking but i found this part funny.
Under Solskjaer, this would be mocked as vibes fc.Tactically, he (McKenna) is just a genius,” says Omari Hutchinson, a 20-year-old midfielder who spent this season on loan at Ipswich. “I have improved a lot since I came here. Him, his coaching staff and the other players have all improved me. In the attacking third, he has just told me to be free, to do what I am best at — ‘Go at players, that is why we signed you’.
I know its nitpicking but i found this part funny.
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I think it’s a huge risk for him at either club. United fans may talk about patience right now but if McKenna had you guys midtable halfway through his first season there would be plenty of talk about the job being too much too soon for him.I think it might be the other way. As a normie, I'd take the Chelsea job because at least you know you have the talent there at every position, really. If McKenna takes the United job it might because he thinks that given a bit of time (say 1.5 seasons at minimum barring insanely poor results, instead of 3 months or whatever the Chelsea realistic minimum is) he will succeed even with less talent.
He's a risk for either of our clubs, but would most likely be given more time here being a familiar face, and Ineos already having shown incredible restraint to not pull the trigger on ten hag this serason.I think it’s a huge risk for him at either club. United fans may talk about patience right now but if McKenna had you guys midtable halfway through his first season there would be plenty of talk about the job being too much too soon for him.
But at least for your club the supporters would be fully behind him from day 1. Here at Chelsea he’ll be getting questions the moment he’s announced.
..uh oh.Tactically, he (McKenna) is just a genius,” says Omari Hutchinson, a 20-year-old midfielder who spent this season on loan at Ipswich. “I have improved a lot since I came here. Him, his coaching staff and the other players have all improved me. In the attacking third, he has just told me to be free, to do what I am best at — ‘Go at players, that is why we signed you’.
I know its nitpicking but i found this part funny.
No doubt about that. If that meeting took place he will be off. No way back from that.Ten Hag is gone if that meeting actually took place.
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Who’s to say that isn’t exactly what we’re doing right now?If the club is looking for a serious rebuild then it has to forget about getting the top 4 for a season or two. I am not saying we shouldn't aim for it, but it shouldn't be a stipulation.
Have you read the EtH thread?don't know how the majority of fans and sponsors would react to this route but I'm very much in support it.
really? i thought he was married and had a couple of kids.Brighton is the much better option for him on a personal level.
really? i thought he was married and had a couple of kids.
I hope thats what we're telling him in the meeting.McKenna should go to Brighton first. Chelsea will ruin him. We probably will as well. But I also get it if we believe in him and rush into it to beat Chelsea to him. But in that case, we really need to hire him with like a 3 year minimum and license to fail during that time deal, on the basis of turning it around eventually. Even like how Ten Hag is doing now, but ten hag isn't their guy so it's different.