I don’t think they are…Southgates comments to me sounded very much like he was setting his stall out for Henderson, Gallagher or even Phillips given any chance. He heaped blame on Mainoo. Cnut.
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He’s a self-absorbed prick, that’s why he’s so keen on players like Phillips, Dunk, Gallagher, Henderson, Maguire, Chilwell etc etc. Players more in his own mediocre image rather than talented players.
Heaping blame on Mainoo with regards to the impact on the team actually stank. ‘Yes he played well individually BUT look at the problems he caused”. Next time he plays if England conceded the consensus will be that we can’t accommodate him. As always United will protect the player.
Hopefully another nail in Southgate coffin when it comes to united. Prick.
Southgate should just play 3 holding midfielders and call it a day the boring cnut.
I said I think. Trust me I'm not expecting it.
I've seen enough of England in international tournaments in my lifetime...
The post above mine had mainoo is rice's position!
The difficulty we have is whether we think mainoo centrally with foden shunted wide is better than foden centrally with someone else wide. Not sure who that someone is tbh. Saka one side, but not sure who plays wide the other side.
It’s good that Southgate has decent back up off the bench for Henderson now.
TV is full of virtue signalling twats (I work there).
While I didn't think Mainoo was amazing I did think he played well. Rice on the other hand was pretty crap so if we're looking at who left the defence exposed it's not the fault of the creative players. Also if we have to play that defence in a tournament we're pretty fecked anyway, even with 5 holding midfielders in front of them. Thought Dunk in particular was a bizarre pick. Why ignore him when he was in his prime, only to play him now he's past his best? For me Konsa, Tomori, Kilman or Branthwaite would all be more interesting choices.
Not only should he go to the Euro's, he should be in the first 11.
Along with Saka, Kane, Rice, Bellingham, Walker, and Stones, he’s one of 7 players that are so good there is no justifiable challenge to their position in the side.
With Pickford locked in, there are only 3 spots in the team up for grabs. Maguire will play as we’ve not seen anything good enough from any of the other options, mainly as Southgate hasn’t experimented enough.
Mainoo has to start every important game at that tournament. England now have one of the best midfield threes in international football. Not just individually but as a set of three great players that fully complement each other.
With Pickford locked in, there are only 3 spots in the team up for grabs. Maguire will play as we’ve not seen anything good enough from any of the other options, mainly as Southgate hasn’t experimented enough.
Mainoo has to start every important game at that tournament. England now have one of the best midfield threes in international football. Not just individually but as a set of three great players that fully complement each other.
Well deserved player of the match award for him I feel - he created the chance that led to the first England goal with a lovely bit of dribbling, made a superb 1v1 for Bellingham, made a clear chance for Bowen as well and was generally really forward thinking while being composed with his play.
The problems for England are with that goalkeeper whom I’ve never rated (I think Ramsdale is a better pick even though he currently lacks match sharpness), and 2 weak choices in the LCB role.
The problems for England are with that goalkeeper whom I’ve never rated (I think Ramsdale is a better pick even though he currently lacks match sharpness), and 2 weak choices in the LCB role.
Surely, no United fan wants Southgate to be the next United manager?
Keep general England discussion in that thread please and keep this one for Mainoo and his performances.
He will be a bench player. Southgate isn't brave enough to start him in most games and will throw him on when he needs the team to score a goal.
If only we had listened to Ole.!
I'm absolutely chuffed for Kobbie and I think he's probably the best midfielder we've produced since Scholes, but let's give him more space to grow up.
I want him to be more like Scholes and less like Pogba.
I want him to be more like Scholes and less like Pogba.
I believe he already is. He is a bone fide centre mid who understands the game in that position and can dictate like Scholes. Pogba was more of an attacking hybrid player, the one thing Kobbie needs to improve though is getting up to 80/90 passes per game like Scholes and Pogba.
Shaw and Rashford should also be locked in. We have no one else close to either of them on the left side, if Shaw is fit.
Not a single reason for Mainoo not to be at the tournament this summer from an England perspective.
Southgate is a negative cnut who hates using progressive players so I don't expect Kobbie to be anything more than a bench option at the Euros.
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My only concern about Mainoo is that he relies heavily on one particular talent of being insanely press resistant to draw a bunch of players in and then release the ball into space having taken them all out of the game.
Now that's a great trick that hardly anyone can do, but once people know about it they surely won't press him in that way. Luckily he has other skills but he's not necessarily going to look this good every game.
Now that's a great trick that hardly anyone can do, but once people know about it they surely won't press him in that way. Luckily he has other skills but he's not necessarily going to look this good every game.
I don't get it. In the men's game it's man of the match. In the women's game it's woman of the match no? Seems fairly simple.
He can beat a man and pass through the lines. Whether you press him or not he's a problem!
I mean once he starts running forwards with the ball in the middle of the pitch, the press has to come. If he's good enough to force the opposition to drop off that's enough of a reason to just have him in the side.
Isn't that going to be easier for him?
You'd think so.
If they don't press him then he will do whatever he wants on the pitch. He has got a great understanding of the game, he will add more feathers to his game or simply reveal them as he gets more settled.
Yeah this is true to some extent. But it's like a defender committing himself instead of staying on his feet. Once they're sucked in they're screwed if they get it wrong. Dropping off Mainoo will create new problems but maybe better ones from opposition perspective.
Broadcasters think that MotM alienates the women in the audience. It's stupid but that's what they think.
I guess that's at least a reason, even if it's stupid.
Surely the fact that no women are playing alienates them, rather than deciding which particular male played the best?
So you’re saying the solution for opposing players is to leave him open, and that’s supposed to be a problem for us?
Imo this is probably our best team:
Pickford
Shaw - Konsa - Stones - Walker/James
Rice - Bellingham - Mainoo/Gallagher
Saka - Kane - Grealish
The / ones are where it's a toss up between either depending on form (Mainoo more so due to age). Foden will likely start on the LW but he's been underwhelming for England there. He should be first sub alongside Bowen on the other side. Rashford is probably a second sub out wide for England and rightly so. Maddison first sub for the AM position.
Given that Bellingham and Mainoo/Gallagher are all capable of getting into the box, I feel Grealish gives more balance as he's more of a natural wide player and creator, whereas Foden instinctively likes to come into the middle more, where it's already pretty congested. It's 90% likely to be Foden starting out wide again though, to the detriment of England. If Grealish had gotten more minutes against France in the world cup, alongside not subbing Saka for Sterling, I really believe we would've beaten them. And then who knows..
Lets hope they will be club and international team mates next season
There aren’t many teams in top leagues that don’t press the opposition midfielders. Perhaps 10-15 years ago some bottom half teams could’ve done that but I haven’t really seen that in today’s game.
If Toney costs about 40, maybe 50M at a stretch, then I'd be up for buying him, but for the price Brentford will be asking for him, especially when we already have Hojlund at the club, won't be worth it. Good player, though.
Or maybe you meant Mainoo to Brentford?
He’s got a decent passing range. Give him space and he’ll find our forwards making runs behind the oppo defense.
Anyone got a video highlight of his game against Belgium?
