Kazi
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True obviously.
Source: The haters in the Fellaini thread
Source: The haters in the Fellaini thread
If anything, said haters weaken Kolarov's arguement. As predicted many years ago, the signing of Fellaini was the first sign of the dark times to come post Fergie.True obviously.
Source: The haters in the Fellaini thread
Yeh man, literally anyone can be a footballer. It requires no ability, no absolute dedication and enormous sacrifices with very few guarantees. Easy stuff...Absolute nonsense.
The fact you are paid thousands of pounds to kick a football in a very organised set-up does not mean you can compare football (the sport) to another highly skilled profession which takes years of hard work and studying to master.
Kolarov demonstrates how deluded these football prima donnas are. A lot of what our fans have said has turned out to be true and including on this forum. A few 'top' reds will inevitably come along and try to act high and mighty but at the end of the day the mistakes managers (like Mourinho) make are patently obvious to the dedicated watcher or match-goer (such as playing dross like Fellaini, Lukaku and current form Matic).
Did I say that? No, I didn't (in case you decide to be a smart ass again). I'd appreciate if you don't misquote and twist my words (aka lie).Yeh man, literally anyone can be a footballer. It requires no ability, no absolute dedication and enormous sacrifices with very few guarantees. Easy stuff...
Good question. I don't know what the answer is but I'm willing to concede that Gary Neville knows more about football than I do.Why most pundits are giving shit opinions then? When most of them were pros playing at highest levels.
Well my in depth analysis of these amateur analysts suggests they know nothing.Nonsense. You can know something from analyzing, you dont know everything.
Playing football may well be easy. Being a professional footballer, of which there are only around 100,000 on the entire planet is far from easy.Did I say that? No, I didn't (in case you decide to be a smart ass again). I'd appreciate if you don't misquote and twist my words (aka lie).
The point is that playing football is not THAT difficult and it certainly is not rocket science. Listening to these footballers, you'd think they were laying their life on the line. If you cannot grasp the point, that's not my problem.
Oh well yeah obviously. They aren't privvy to the same level of information so they won't be able to judge as well.Of course are not never right, who said that? My point was that if something is so obvious to fans, then it is by definition obvious to the manager as well. If he does not act on it, it is either because of non footballing reasons like some misguided principle like LvG and his my captain always plays, or Mourinho and his political point scoring with his trusted soldiers. What I am saying is from a purely footballing point of view, the average fan is simply not equipped to detect and understand as much as a professional who lives the game every day can.
I know who is best team in the premier League, but I don't know how to fix a bad team
I know a good singer from a bad one, but my advice to a bad singer wouldn't be helpful
Well it certainly not thesame as medicine where there are many layers to learning and a whole lot of integration and skill acquisition over a lifetime.Yeh man, literally anyone can be a footballer. It requires no ability, no absolute dedication and enormous sacrifices with very few guarantees. Easy stuff...
Nope, havent read any analysis that comes to that conclusionWell my in depth analysis of these amateur analysts suggests they know nothing.
So city fans were wrong when they said he was shit last years and then Pep kicked him out of the team eventually?“I don’t have to promise anything to anybody, only to myself in terms of working hard and giving everything, and that’s what I’ve always done since I started playing football. The fans have the right to be annoyed, we respect that, but they must be conscious of the fact they know nothing about football. I like tennis and basketball, I have played both since I was a kid, and I get angry when my team loses, but I would never offer tactical advice because I have no idea about it. It’s a general problem, fans of every team should understand that.”
True or False?
Huh... whats that got to do with his quote? Are you attributing his quote to me? For what its worth, as I said earlier he has a point that we all think we're armchair experts but when you read what some ex players say it's entirely possible fans know as much as them.So city fans were wrong when they said he was shit last years and then Pep kicked him out of the team eventually?
Thanks for that, adds alot to the debate in the thread. Kolarov would pull the head off Souey and Gaz Nev. This is a guy who grew up playing football with bombs dropping in his back garden for God sake.Is this the same Kolarov who shat his pants when Souey took on Gaz Nev in a Sky Sports studio back in 2018? Thought so...
So what's your point? That the incendiaries added to the store of his football knowledge?Thanks for that, adds alot to the debate in the thread. Kolarov would pull the head off Souey and Gaz Nev. This is a guy who grew up playing football with bombs dropping in his back garden for God sake.
Nope, its I'm pretty sure he wouldn't shite himself over Souness or Gary feckin Neville.So what's your point? That the incendiaries added to the store of his football knowledge?
Fair point. I tend to agree, he comes across as arrogant.He's spouting truisms. "Person who does something all the time knows more about someone who doesn't" is no controversial revelation. But "they must be conscious of the fact they know nothing about football" is where he goes all blooty. 22 elite athletes trying to kick a bag of wind into each other's goal net is a simple working summation of the game. That's one reason why football is the people's game. Because its simple. Must be conscious that they know nothing is bad phrasing at best and overreaching condescension at worst.
There's tons of advice you could give to the Man Utd coaching team, like "Transition more quickly between the midfield and attack", "Use Alexis down the middle every game", "Never start with Jones" etc etc. The advice may be wrong but it would be applicable in the field it's related to. On the other hand, what advice are you going to offer a refrigeration specialist who's been called in to a fish processing plant and is having problems fixing the giant freezers? feck all because your not an engineer or technology specialist, fields of genuine professional expertise. Those do exist in football -medical staff, pitch technology, etc,- but that's not what Kolarov is talking about. And precisely because the advice about team selection, style of play, tactics is known, we can be conscious that we know something about it, pace what Kolarov says.This reminds me somewhat of when Benoît Assou-Ekotto admitted that he played entirely for the money, not for the love of the shirt nor for the love of the game. We think as fans that we want honest, candid interviews with pros, but when they say something which disturbs the status quo, we react with contempt:
"How dare Assou-Ekotto not have dreamt of playing for Tottenham Hotspur as he grew up in Arras?"
"Who does Kolarov think he is to suggest that football fans know nothing about football as compared to people who are paid to play / coach the sport?"
Truth is, Kolarov is probably right. Few to none of us could offer any advice to the Man United coaching team or players which isn't already known; the problem is that, as Mourinho balances his inputs, he errs far too much on the side of caution in an age when attack-minded teams are dominant.
We as fans may be able to offer this advice, that's true. My point, though, is that with as large a coaching staff as are already at the club, I would be astounded if there wasn't already someone there who is saying these things. These aren't being implemented on the pitch, true (although Jones only got a start due to Lindelöf's injury), and I'm not suggesting that every player / coach knows more about every facet of football than does every fan; rather, I'm saying that I would be astonished if there wasn't someone in the coaching team who was saying these things. If Mourinho isn't listening to his own coaching team, however, why would he listen to people like us, whose greatest success in football has been to support the right team at the right time?There's tons of advice you could give to the Man Utd coaching team, like "Transition more quickly between the midfield and attack", "Use Alexis down the middle every game", "Never start with Jones" etc etc. The advice may be wrong but it would be applicable in the field it's related to. On the other hand, what advice are you going to offer a refrigeration specialist who's been called in to a fish processing plant and is having problems fixing the giant freezers? feck all because your not an engineer or technology specialist, fields of genuine professional expertise. Those do exist in football -medical staff, pitch technology, etc,- but that's not what Kolarov is talking about. And precisely because the advice about team selection, style of play, tactics is known, we can be conscious that we know something about it, pace what Kolarov says.