AltiUn
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DepressingWhat's the opposite of pressing?
DepressingWhat's the opposite of pressing?
Excellent postIt really is wonderful seeing the Real Madrid fans on here spitting out their pacifiers. No need to go back and read their posts... Here are their main arguments as to why this is bad for football
"They don't have history (only like 7 clubs in Europe have history according to them and others. Today we learn history is not an accurate recollection of facts, Javier from Badalona doesn't know anything about PSG so they have no history, there)"
" No one cares about the French league" (apparently we measure importance by what RM/MUTD fans think. A caste if you will)
"Mbappe's decision was about money" (as opposed to the peanuts he would receive at Madrid as a benevolent tribute to Perez)
"Sportswashing, soft power, bla bla" (it's not enough that they sell us weapons and have our citizens spend money in their countries and maintain very close diplomatic/military ties, we need an army of Newcastle/City fans arguing that our regime is good... Here's a billion pounds for StripeCafe/Bluemoon)
It's not fair (football was fair before 2005 apparently. No problems here sir. What's that you say about Mila
Most decent journalists admit they have no info. The only thing their sources told them is that it was far from the ridiculous deal mentionned by eurosport.es (300M bonus + 100M/year).One that thing that irks me, admittedly not only related to Mbappé's case, is the absolute certainty with which fans talk about amounts of money, contract clauses, terms and conditions, bonuses, etc. Is it because thay have seen the real documents with all those details and/or have been present during the negotiations? Of course not, they have no fecking clue, as do 99,99% of journos and social media ITKs. Everyone needs to pretend they know, it's frankly quite pathetic, really.
I don't think that by any objective measure this is a fact. Real Madrid is currently playing in the Champions League final, and have won it 4 times in the past decade. PSG fell hilariously short yet again, having been vanquished by none other than Real Madrid.I hate oil money but the facts are PSG are a better side than Madrid currently.
Well said, and agreed.This sort of criticism needs to come from other French sides or at least non-superleague clubs.
The message just gets diluted/ignored because everyone hates who is saying it, regardless of its validity.
it also can be said the same when you win UCL with Real Madrid a UCL powerhouse. its not like Real Madrid are some minnows.I mean when you're at a club with infinite budget for transfers/salary i don't think it's that impressive to win the CL tbh.
Paris will probably try to sell it as an historical achievement but it'll be no more impressive than Chelsea winning it when it finally happens.
No, not by mine, but he could already have whatever he wants…I just don’t understand the need to have even more money. Not that I blame him to take the money from that owners. I prefer the money to go to him.Are you judging his lifestyle by your standards? Do you know how big is family is or he plans it to be?
either way a deal like this almost certainly ensures generational wealth. Good for him.
Maybe because it's not only about money?No, not by mine, but he could already have whatever he wants…I just don’t understand the need to have even more money. Not that I blame him to take the money from that owners. I prefer the money to go to him.
So without knowing his lifestyle is hard to say if his future was financially secure. There are multiple stories of millionaires blowing through fortunes due to their lifestyles.No, not by mine, but he could already have whatever he wants…I just don’t understand the need to have even more money. Not that I blame him to take the money from that owners. I prefer the money to go to him.
His future would easily be financially secure without choosing extra money, rather thanu make a decision based on his football legacy.So without knowing his lifestyle is hard to say if his future was financially secure. There are multiple stories of millionaires blowing through fortunes due to their lifestyles.
and it's not as if he was going to go to Real to play for free. Money wasn't the only consideration in his decision, I'm assuming. He's from Paris after all
There's a whole post for you to read there. You chose to read one sentence and replied with what is a needless post had you read the rest of the post and applied some sense.His future would easily be financially secure without choosing extra money, rather thanu make a decision based on his football legacy.
He is one of the highest paid players in the world before the new contract, would have got a signing on fee at Real anyway and would have been on 400k a week there, which would make his financial life pretty damn good regardless of staying at PSG.
This millionaires are idiots. They can just invest their wealth and leave with the money it generates.So without knowing his lifestyle is hard to say if his future was financially secure. There are multiple stories of millionaires blowing through fortunes due to their lifestyles.
and it's not as if he was going to go to Real to play for free. Money wasn't the only consideration in his decision, I'm assuming. He's from Paris after all
Maybe but Madrid is his boyhood club. He had posters of Ronaldo all over his room.Maybe because it's not only about money?
I'm not sure it's going more confortable for him in Paris. Sure it's home but he clearly stays to get Paris their 1st CL and he asked for more responsability. If they fail badly 3 more years, his extension will be a failure (even if he's obviously not responsible). Considering the CL is the only thing that really matters for PSG, it's far easier to screw up.Maybe but Madrid is his boyhood club. He had posters of Ronaldo all over his room.
But I agree that he can be confortable in Paris, being close to friends and family, in his country.
PSG were levels above Madrid in those games though. It was luck. Messi smashed Madrid even in the game they went through and should have ended them before this Madrid run started.I don't think that by any objective measure this is a fact. Real Madrid is currently playing in the Champions League final, and have won it 4 times in the past decade. PSG fell hilariously short yet again, having been vanquished by none other than Real Madrid.
LuckPSG were levels above Madrid in those games though. It was luck. Messi smashed Madrid even in the game they went through and should have ended them before this Madrid run started.
Messi got absolutely hounded after the game despite been easily the best player on the pitch for 70 percent of the second leg that’s part of the problem the pressure.
Mbappe had soooo many chances to end Madrid too. It was a fluke really.
Not only luck because PSG totally lost their cool after Donnarumma messed up (and was also fouled by benzema but we're not going to dwell on that), but PSG dominated Real 150mn out of 180 and the 1st game was totally one sided. The only problem is, they missed far too many opportunities to score (Messi also missed a penalty) and Bernzema was in god mode. You can't only judge a game by its result, overall PSG was a far better team but experience and Benzema was on Real's side.Luck
PSG are not factually better than La Liga champions who are currently in the CL final.
I'm sorry, i don't buy it. There is no evidence to suggest that PSG are superior to Real. Based on results this season, it simply is not true.Not only luck because PSG lost their cool after Donnarumma messed up, but PSG dominated Real 150mn out of 180 and the 1st game was totally one sided. The only problem is, they missed far too many opportunities to score (Messi also missed a penalty) and Bernzema was in god mode. You can't only judge a game by its result, overall PSG was a far better team but experience and Benzema was on Real's side.
You didn't watch the games did you?I'm sorry, i don't buy it. There is no evidence to suggest that PSG are superior to Real. Based on results this season, it simply is not true.
You didn’t watch the games. I’m sorry but PSG should have crushed Madrid in both legs. It’s was a whipping. Funny how the narrative in football changes with a fluke result.I'm sorry, i don't buy it. There is no evidence to suggest that PSG are superior to Real. Based on results this season, it simply is not true.
PSG were better though if you watched the game. Levels better both tactically and technically than Madrid. Poch was brilliant with his setup and the tie should have been over after 60 mins of the first leg.No they aren't, better individuals doesn't always make for a better side.
I watched. You honestly just sound bitter. PSG bottled it, have never won the CL, and Madrid beat the other oil club City, who PSG couldn't get past last year.You didn’t watch the games. I’m sorry but PSG should have crushed Madrid in both legs. It’s was a whipping. Funny how the narrative in football changes with a fluke result.
Benzema went into god mode like the other poster said in single moments which can happen in football.
Messi was levels above anyone in a Madrid shirt and so was Mbappe still if you watched the game.
The should have put the tie to bed after the first game easily.
They were slicing through Madrid in both legs with ease which is why I worry for Madrid in the final against Pool.
"Those who don't agree with me must not have watched the game!". How bitter.You didn't watch the games did you?
Didn't you get the memo? Those who don't agree with them are online fans who do not watch football.No they aren't, better individuals doesn't always make for a better side.
If you watched the game I value your opinion even less because I don’t know what you were watching for the first 150 plus minutes of that tie.Didn't you get the memo? Those who don't agree with them are online fans who do not watch football.
I did not say anything of the sort. Please stop making things up.I’m up for a football debate and you are telling me Madrid outplayed PSG and City.
Because clearly, you need to improve your reading comprehension. You may be confusing me for another poster, to be fair.I have zero clue what you people are talking about.
I now have another reason to want Madrid to win the CL. It will mean that PSG supporters can celebrate the "we are a better team than the CL Champions" trophy that exists in their heads, and we can banter them for it.These discussions about the PSG-Madrid tie are funny and kind of ironic, given the entire reason why PSG were the better team for most of the tie was that they had Kylian Mbappé. Literally the entire reason
You need to buy glasses too for watching the TV so I suppose we both need to dip into our pockets then, eh?I did not say anything of the sort. Please stop making things up.
Because clearly, you need to improve your reading comprehension. You may be confusing me for another poster, to be fair.
Says the one bigging up Messi's performances against Real MadridYou need to buy glasses too for watching the TV so I suppose we both need to dip into our pockets then, eh?
I'm not bitter at all, managing rough patches in a game is part of what a team needs to win the CL and we failed at that.I watched. You honestly just sound bitter. PSG bottled it, have never won the CL, and Madrid beat the other oil club City, who PSG couldn't get past last year.
Based on results, you can claim that PSG are better but it rings hollow and bitter. Real Madrid are in the final, and it's no coincidence that a team like theirs who know how to win in that competition are at yet another final. And also it is no coincidence that PSG and City have never won it, despite how many billions they have thrown at the competition to try to do so.
But Madrid does not have infinite budget though. They've been underdogs in every CL round this yearit also can be said the same when you win UCL with Real Madrid a UCL powerhouse. its not like Real Madrid are some minnows.
Resorting to ad hominem because i disputed the claim that PSG are a better team than Real Madrid. Pretty desperate really.You need to buy glasses too for watching the TV so I suppose we both need to dip into our pockets then, eh?
This is a fair post. And in my opinion, the bolded is a very important component of how "good" a team is. Which is my point, and why i dispute the notion that PSG is a superior team to Real Madrid right now.I'm not bitter at all, managing rough patches in a game is part of what a team needs to win the CL and we failed at that.
Doesn't mean PSG wasn't the better team from an individual or collective standpoint, but Real Madrid was just stronger psychologically, fair play to them. Also, Benzema was outstanding and will deserve his ballon d'or, but I highly doubt he can sustain this level for long.
He's not fecking saying PSG are superior to Real Madrid, he's saying they were better in that particular tie, and they absolutely were.I'm sorry, i don't buy it. There is no evidence to suggest that PSG are superior to Real. Based on results this season, it simply is not true.
Real Madrid have been in 10 out of the last 12 CL semifinals. PSG have been in 2. If my calculation is correct, in the last 12 years RM have won 25 knockout rounds (10x2 + 5 in which they reached finals) and lost 7. There might seem to be luck on any given game, but this is just knowing how to win knockout rounds.PSG were levels above Madrid in those games though. It was luck.
They were very good at scoring offside goals. Unfortunately to win football ties you have to score onside goals.He's not fecking saying PSG are superior to Real Madrid, he's saying they were better in that particular tie, and they absolutely were.
True but the psychological aspect comes and goes, there was also games when Real Madrid looked helpless in the past few years. Against Chelsea last year or City the year before, they looked like they were never in a position to win. Against Ajax, they got eviscerated at home by youngsters. Nobody knows how it's going to go next season when some of the younger players become starters.This is a fair post. And in my opinion, the bolded is a very important component of how "good" a team is. Which is my point, and why i dispute the notion that PSG is a superior team to Real Madrid right now.
Each game is different. Of course it's a very experienced CL team. Under Zidane they were a war machine, Kroos/Modric/Casemiro/Marcelo/Carvajal was an amazing midfield line.Real Madrid have been in 10 out of the last 12 CL semifinals. PSG have been in 2. If my calculation is correct, in the last 12 years RM have won 25 knockout rounds (10x2 + 5 in which they reached finals) and lost 7. There might seem to be luck on any given game, but this is just knowing how to win knockout rounds.
He isn't talking about that particular tie.He's not fecking saying PSG are superior to Real Madrid, he's saying they were better in that particular tie, and they absolutely were.
I mean people can think whatever they want but going for results in the recent season is something difficult to justify with a straight face.I hate oil money but the facts are PSG are a better side than Madrid currently.