Kylian Mbappe

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It's not that he doesn't want to, it's that he cannot (at least not at the highest level). He's just not a real 9, he's not that great in the box whe receiving crosses, probably scored 3 headers in his career etc. He's pretty much the opposit of what Madrid had in the past decade and they'd need to change their philosophy completely to accomodate him.

MBappé is a Ronaldo kind of player, he needs a Benzema. So now if Madrid buys Mbappé, Kane and manage to have VInicius play on the right side (very very uncertain), that would really be something spectacular but Mbappé as a number 9 is just far from their best option. The team that will buy Mbappé needs to play him on the left, period.
They might have to go through a batch of changes with the whole spine of the team getting moved on. Vinicius shifting to the other side seems doable to accomodate a player like Mbappe. I think it would be a better bet than buying Kane for 2 years and have the exact same issue in the future. In the meantime if Mbappe becomes United's qatari toy Florentino has fecked up big time. Who could be that long-term Benzema replacement if they don't go for Mbappe ? Osimhen ? Kane + Haaland's release clause ?
 

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Imagine if they picked both Maguire and Sancho for mbappe :drool::drool::drool:
 

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I think the only thing in United's favor might be PSG preferring to sell to a Qatar-backed United and also the fact that they can be petty and they'll be extremely annoyed at Madrid and would rather sell Mbappe elsewhere.
 

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Perhaps he realises that PSG's chance to dominate Europe has come and gone and he now needs to move on to a better team.
 

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I don’t see Madrid going for him right now this summer after buying Bellingham for £100m. Next summer on a free maybe but looks like psg will ship out this summer. We have to be in the running for it if Qatar wins.

 

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Is Mbappe really going to swap one Qatari club for another? Not sure he's going to want that.
He might realise that the Qataris will be focusing on United and putting PSG on the back burner? That’s my conspiracy for the day anyway

In reality he’d be Madrid bound you’d think. I know they got Bellingham but Madrid seem to be able to do mental things sometimes
 

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The fanbase begging for players where we'd have to pay them 500k+ a week and give them unprecedented player power, whether Qatar takes over or not, if they run the club like PSG I might be done, cba if we become the kind of club that signs players like Mbappe, Neymar and overrules the manager etc for stupid money and stupid player power. I pray this doesn't happen. Absolutely cannot believe everyone's begging for it though, just becoming another soulless club
 

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They might have to go through a batch of changes with the whole spine of the team getting moved on. Vinicius shifting to the other side seems doable to accomodate a player like Mbappe. I think it would be a better bet than buying Kane for 2 years and have the exact same issue in the future. In the meantime if Mbappe becomes United's qatari toy Florentino has fecked up big time. Who could be that long-term Benzema replacement if they don't go for Mbappe ? Osimhen ? Kane + Haaland's release clause ?
If they do this this to play Mbappe on the left, they're going to need a Kane/Osimhen-esque striker anyway. I also can't see them potentially pissing off Vini by putting him on a weaker wing where he's likely to be half as effective.
 

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There's some media speculation (Le Parisien) going around that PSG are furious at Mbappe sending in this letter demanding a move right after Perez apparently said in some interview/video that Mbappe will sign for Madrid.
He didn't demand a move. He signed a 2+1 contract and had until July 31st to trigger the extra year or not, he sent a letter saying that he won't trigger it.
 

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He didn't demand a move. He signed a 2+1 contract and had until July 31st to trigger the extra year or not, he sent a letter saying that he won't trigger it.
Yep, that's what they're referring to as it pretty much means he has to move now given PSG don't want to lose him on a free. It's the equivalent of a transfer request if you ask me.
 

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The fanbase begging for players where we'd have to pay them 500k+ a week and give them unprecedented player power, whether Qatar takes over or not, if they run the club like PSG I might be done, cba if we become the kind of club that signs players like Mbappe, Neymar and overrules the manager etc for stupid money and stupid player power. I pray this doesn't happen. Absolutely cannot believe everyone's begging for it though, just becoming another soulless club
Mbappe is literally the best player in the world. There were these same stupid rumors about Messi and player power during his peak at Barcelona. Would you have turned him down?
 

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I don't think this is about a new contract tbh. How much more can he really earn? 3 million a week? I don't think he feels the club is going anywhere and I'd not really blame him tbh. With Messi and Neymar gone, the attack is rubbish and all the burden will fall on him. Even last year, they had some really shocking bench strength. I'm not sure he wants to be at PSG while it's in the midst of a bit of a squad overhaul and transition and Madrid is instant success.
Ehh we are also in transition. Who knows how the new midfield will shape up. No guarantees. 3mil a week sounds nice.

So there's rumors he was talking to the club about a long term extension. I don't buy that, in my mind there's just no way MBappé extends his contract with PSG again, he needs to go somewhere else in the next couple of years. I thought he would trigger his extra year and leave in 2024 for a nice transfer fee, but it seems it might happen sooner. I really don't see him negociating a new contract to spend 3 or 4 extra years in France.
I see. Thought he wanted a long term thing with Campos and whatnot.

Owh also: Vini cannot play on the right. Rodrygo barely can. Both are better on the LW.
 

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I feel quite mixed on it as I like what we’re building, but I don’t think you can really turn down Mbappe.

Would be excellent business if we could offload them Sancho in return or something.
Yeah I agree with you. However, all common sense goes out the window when such a rare talent at the peak of their powers is available. Just not sure if he could play as an out and out number 9.

True. Sancho is fairly dispensable and is still viewed as a reasonably valuable commodity.
 

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There's some media speculation (Le Parisien) going around that PSG are furious at Mbappe sending in this letter demanding a move right after Perez apparently said in some interview/video that Mbappe will sign for Madrid.
Perez did say that but I believe he also said “not this summer” implying it would be free next summer. But looks like psg want rid now if he’s not signing contract. Can’t see Madrid spending silly money again this summer after Bellingham.
 

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If they do this this to play Mbappe on the left, they're going to need a Kane/Osimhen-esque striker anyway. I also can't see them potentially pissing off Vini by putting him on a weaker wing where he's likely to be half as effective.
Exactly, if I have to pick players to improve this Madrid team, there's probably 6-7 players I'd buy before Mbappé :
- elite 9
- elite midfielder(s)
- elite right winger
- elite right back
- elite left back

Mbappé is pretty much the only world class player they don't need.

The issue is pretty similar with United, your best player plays at Mbappé's position with similar caracteristics (even if less talented).
 

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Yep, that's what they're referring to as it pretty much means he has to move now given PSG don't want to lose him on a free. It's the equivalent of a transfer request if you ask me.
Well it's not the equivalent of a transfer request, this situation was determined by his contract. The fact that PSG don't want to lose him for free and will try to sell him is on them, they are the ones putting him on the transfer list.
 

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Perez did say that but I believe he also said “not this summer” implying it would be free next summer. But looks like psg want rid now if he’s not signing contract. Can’t see Madrid spending silly money again this summer after Bellingham.
I can honestly. Madrid haven't spend huge amounts off late and I think they have plenty of money saved up for Mbappe if they decide to buy this summer.

Exactly, if I have to pick players to improve this Madrid team, there's probably 6-7 players I'd buy before Mbappé :
- elite 9
- elite midfielder(s)
- elite right winger
- elite right back
- elite left back

Mbappé is pretty much the only world class player they don't need.

The issue is pretty similar with United, your best player plays at Mbappé's position with similar caracteristics (even if less talented).
I think the difference at United is that Mbappe is significantly better than Rashford so you'd do the deal and move Rashford up front if needed. Vini really can't be moved around elsewhere. Though I agree, I don't see him at United as he's really going to want to win things and being in the same league completely dominated by his major rival, Haaland, doesn't seem the right move.
 

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Mbappe is literally the best player in the world. There were these same stupid rumors about Messi and player power during his peak at Barcelona. Would you have turned him down?
Not exactly rumours though are they? It's well reported. I don't care if he's the best player in the world, we'd have to completely break our wage structure and spend our entire summer budget to sign him whilst we leave monumental chasms in the rest of our squad - and who even knows if Ten Hag wants him, i'm not into foisting players onto the manager. To play Mbappe in his natural position we'd have to move Rashford centrally where he is much less effective, leaving us without a natural striker, and then we'd completely stunt the growth of Garnacho too just as he's making his breakthrough. I could go on and on about why it's a terrible idea but why does that matter when we can boast on twitter that we have Mbappe and become as soulless as PSG.

The kind of signing Woodward would make whilst we continue to wonder why the rest of our squad is complete shite.
 

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I don’t see Madrid going for him right now this summer after buying Bellingham for £100m. Next summer on a free maybe but looks like psg will ship out this summer. We have to be in the running for it if Qatar wins.

They will sign him don’t kid yourself
 

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Yeah I agree with you. However, all common sense goes out the window when such a rare talent at the peak of their powers is available. Just not sure if he could play as an out and out number 9.

True. Sancho is fairly dispensable and is still viewed as a reasonably valuable commodity.
He and Rashford can do the Henry / Pires trick of the number 9 drifting wide to create space and where he’s most comfortable and have the inside forward drift into the space inside.
 

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I don’t see Madrid going for him right now this summer after buying Bellingham for £100m. Next summer on a free maybe but looks like psg will ship out this summer. We have to be in the running for it if Qatar wins.

of course they will
 

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In theory Mbappé is perfectly able to play as a 9 for ETH, since the number 9 is allowed to roam around. The thing that Mbappé doesn't like is the Van Gaal/Deschamps interpretation of a 9 which is to stick in the middle and act as a poacher or target man.
 

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I mean there’s no chance he comes here over Madrid…right…?
Why not, he’s already on the Qatari pay role as an ambassador, this has got we are moving most of our crown Jewell’s to PL written all over it. Veratti on a free Maguire and Sancho plus £80m for Mbappe.
 

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He’s the best player in the world.

He ends up at Madrid if he moves.
 

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The fanbase begging for players where we'd have to pay them 500k+ a week and give them unprecedented player power, whether Qatar takes over or not, if they run the club like PSG I might be done, cba if we become the kind of club that signs players like Mbappe, Neymar and overrules the manager etc for stupid money and stupid player power. I pray this doesn't happen. Absolutely cannot believe everyone's begging for it though, just becoming another soulless club
Turning our noses on generational talents. :lol:
 

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Isn’t this just his classic taking over the media cycle when Haaland does something great? Qatar just needs to give him a new loyalty bonus and he’s sorted.
 

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Not going to happen, Mason mount and the possible return of Greenwood
 

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Turning our noses on generational talents. :lol:
And again I ask, and then what?

Break our wage structure and create a potential vacuum of players wanting to be paid a hell of a lot more
Foist a player onto the manager who may not be part of his plans
Move the likes of Rashford into an unnatural position and stunt the development of Garnacho
Potential forexcessive player power and interference from above who may tell ETH he has to take Mbappe or he has to play Mbappe
Regardless if Qatar takeover we have a budget this summer due to FFP, spend all of that on Mbappe and then what? Same midfield, same shit GK, same problems but we have a shiny new toy, gee sounds a little like Woodward that
Guy's begging for Real Madrid and had to be convinced with like a 1million a week wage just to not sign for them, absolutely ridiculous, he'll go to them within 4 years regardless because it's his dream
You'll argue well it was Ronaldo's dream too, yes but we didn't have to spend hundreds of millions to get him and hundreds of thousands of wages a week to keep him here

It isn't as simple as "Turning our noses on generational talents :lol:" The time to get Mbappe the generational talent was as he was leaving Monaco, we are nowhere near in the position to take him now and I don't believe it would help the team in any way in the long run
 

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Real bound means, Kane is available. If Real doesn't have the money and Qatar takes over - statement signing for us ;)
Feel like this win-win situation only happens under the Qatar ownership. Otherwise we wind up with Tammy Abraham and Ross Barkley in all likelihood
 

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If they do this this to play Mbappe on the left, they're going to need a Kane/Osimhen-esque striker anyway. I also can't see them potentially pissing off Vini by putting him on a weaker wing where he's likely to be half as effective.
Yes but Real could realistically do an Mbappe/Jude/Osimhen summer window and be good for a long time. Taking Mbappe and one of PSG target in one swoop would be some flex.
 

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Hey Mason Mount , things have changed , SJ has taken over so he feels Mbappe would be a better option in this moment.
 

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Madrid bound all the way, probably has everything assured with them already behind the scenes.

Means they won’t go for Kane, we need to heavily work on that instead of a Mason Mount 80M catastrophe.