Leon Goretzka
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We will get a second midfielder. Fred is leaving and McTominay could be out the door too.Agreed, but I don't think Goretzka would accept coming here to be a rotation option.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well.
If we are to bring in another CM, it's surely going to be either an understudy #6 for Casemiro, or the deep lying playmaker that we've wanted in De Jong.
As good a box to box CAM that Goretzka is - and, ability wise, I'd be happy for us to spend him - but, for a balanced squad, he's the one type of CM that we already have plenty of. After already signing Mount, I don't see why we'd spend some of our budget on another of that type instead of the other midfield needs.
What are those crafty Germans up to again
Really hope these Goretzka and Alaba links are agent driven
Not been impressed when I've watched them play. Looks off pace and his work on the ball isnt what we need
Everyone said they were a perfect match when Flick was our coach.
But that was a different Goretzka back than in my opinion. Maybe Covid or one of his many injuries cost him.
He bulked up in our Sextuple season where he was very good, so i wouldnt blame the muscles.
Without his physique and atletics he is only a medioce player.
I have big doubts that he can get back to his best and would be happy if we sold him.
With Laimer we got a very similar player that played a great last season and that is barely injured, unlike Goretzka
Theyre both good players but neither is a profile we seem to currently need. Goretzka is the same profile as McTominay, which doesnt seem to be part of Ten Hag's plans, and Alaba is the same profile as Martinez who is one of Ten Hag's main guys. Neither of them are the type of players who will be looking to be substitutes wherever they go either.
Exactly. I'd rather take Amrabat(Casemiro cover) and Pavard(plays both RB and CB at top level).
Well well well Uli what´s up with that?
Goretzka has been injured quite a bit so he is probably top fit now.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/leon-goretzka/verletzungen/spieler/153084
Goretzka has been injured quite a bit so he is probably top fit now.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/leon-goretzka/verletzungen/spieler/153084
He seems to me to be the same type as McTominay or Isco (edit, meant Saul Niguez). Hugely reliant on athleticism, being stong, fast and having outstanding stamina. If that athletic aspect deteriorates, as it seemingly did with Isco (Saul) , youre left with a lower category of player. Wont likely age well either.
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Yeah, unfortunately it looks like Pavard will likely be gone before we can compete for him. Sounds like we'll be moving for Hojlund after Onana.
Things Utd definitely scout:
Players who have won it all and want to leave Bayern and Real.
Dutch football
Obscure Japanese keepers
Players who have won it all and want to leave Bayern and Real.
Dutch football
Obscure Japanese keepers
Can't imagine TenHag has any use for a player like Goretzka. Alaba is still a great organizer from the back with good skills - if good enough against more physical team like in England, no idea.
One of my favourite players ever but we got the Ali Express version. I don't trust Bayern wanting to sell a German player ever...Saudi Arabia maybe?He’s the new Schweinsteiger. You should get him.
McTominay or Isco?
Are you mistaking Isco for someone else?Who are these strong, fast, athletic players that don't suffer from losing some of their athleticism?
See also Torres, Alexis Sanchez, Rooney, Keane, Essien and basically all players as they progress into their 30s and retire.
Isco and McTominay are not similar
Telling that no one reliable is talking about either
Goretzka is the last footballer that would go to Saudi Arabia. Also a quality of his that is very appreciated amongst the supporters.
Yep. I would be genuinely shocked if he even considers a move like this.
Isco?
I just took a look at the number of minutes he's played in the BL for the last 4 years at Bayern.
18/19 - 1512
20/21 - 1705
21/22 -1396
22/23 - 1728
He isn't going to any top team to be a starter.
Hopefully we've learnt not to go for these kind of transfers anymore
Good point, slightly disagree on the McTominay comparison.
McTominay and Isco, together at last.
Im talking about players whose game is based on athleticism rather than a particular skill.
I meant Saul Niguez, not Isco.
I meant Saul, not Isco. I'll change the post.
Saul I meant.
Yeah, i meant Saul.
Saul.McTominay or Isco?
Thats due to injury isn’t it?
Aargh alright, makes more sense bud.
Yeah, that makes more sense
I'd be more concerned that Alaba is 31 and that i cant see an obvious starting position for him. Unless he's happy as backup for Martinez and Casemiro which seems unlikely considering his profile.
I dunno, but injured or not, he's obviously just not good enough.
Well no thats not what that says