This is worse than people who thought Fosu Mensah would be great defensive midfielder for some reason. DM is probably the toughest position to play on the pitch, and yet for some reason people always come up with players who aren't great in their original position, let alone as DMF.
Lindelof - new DM?
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Of the top of my head
Marquinhos
Gary Medel
Pepe
Mjällby
Demichelis
It's more common for dm to drop back as they age but the opposite occurs at times and when it does it's because the manager wants an extra enforcer, not in order to get a decent passer. I myself switched from cb to cdm when I was 16 and actually excelled at it. The toughest part is meeting the ball with your back towards the playing direction and so something constructive rather than just pass it back to cb or wb. Also the positional play is tough compared to cb who always see the whole field
Amad Diallo for our version of Kante
No. Absolutely not.
Meek and weak lindelof as a DM? 
Lindelof will probably move on, once Verane becomes the established CB with Maguire. I can see him and Bailley wanting to leave. One of them will go definitely.
Dean Henderson said in a recent interview that he reckons he's faster than Dan James and Marcus Rashford. Not sure why we splurged 70m on Sancho, when we could have had Hendo bombing down the wings.
He’s a failed DM playing at CB.
We should play him there if we want to permanently play in the UEFA cup.
We should play him there if we want to permanently play in the UEFA cup.
Several reasons why it wouldn't work.
I don't think he's mobile enough, good enough at moving with the ball at his feet. I don't think he's strong or tenacious enough.
While he does have a good ping on him, I don't think he's particularly adept at passing it through the lines.
There's actually perhaps not one reason why we should do this,.
I don't think he's mobile enough, good enough at moving with the ball at his feet. I don't think he's strong or tenacious enough.
While he does have a good ping on him, I don't think he's particularly adept at passing it through the lines.
There's actually perhaps not one reason why we should do this,.
Nope Nope Nope, he could maybe play an odd game at best as a makeshift RB (If Williams goes on Loan, Dalot is sold etc), but being a DM is different gravy.
Other than Pepe I'm not sure i'd call any of those competent, and he hasn't played in midfield for about 10 years.
I just want to know when we signed this new guy Caf Logic. We're already stacked at left wing.
I'd actually say Pepe is the worst of the lot at playing cdm, it was just peak El Clasico bastardery on display with Mourinho being desperate to stop rampant Barcelona.
Regarding VNL I'm not sure he could do the job. But he is akin to Marquinhos so it could perhaps work out but I still can't see it happening. Then again never would I have imagined seeing Lahm at cdm, Schweinsteiger at cdm, Ze Roberto at cdm or Kimmich at cb but it happened.
Someone like Ivan Córdoba or Lucas Hernández - shorter tenacious CB's that are good man markers - might have an easier time to transition and do a good job of harrying the opposition as cdm.
Some CB's on the bigger end - van Buyten or Harry Mcguire - could probably become decent strikers for some teams in the lower divisions/lower table (or in Dion Dublins case all the way in premiership). It's about skill sets.
Lindelof would be very like Marquinhos you're right, and I think they'd both get overrun playing there in the PL. He doesn't do it all that well in Ligue 1 and the CL.
No.
Why do some fans think a CB who isn't good enough as a CB would be better as a DM?
Same has been said about Bailly and others. It makes no sense.
A defensive midfielder is one of the most difficult positions to play.
This kind of threads needs to stop
Why do some fans think a CB who isn't good enough as a CB would be better as a DM?
Same has been said about Bailly and others. It makes no sense.
A defensive midfielder is one of the most difficult positions to play.
This kind of threads needs to stop
Why would he need to play as a DM? In that kind of game surely you just play 3 CBs and give the middle one the license to step into the midfield.
Don't see why we'd specifically try and adjust his position.
Don't see why we'd specifically try and adjust his position.
Its crazy, didnt see on any other football forum more use of "X player can also play Y position, its fine" sentence.
How about no.
Yeah let's not put him there. It's ok to have good players on the bench. Rio and Vidic were awesome but we still had, Brown, O'Shea and Evans that says it all really. Lindelöf should be used to rest and when others are injured but but as a starter.
God no. Every season we hear the same story about how such or such a CB could play as a DM, or how a DM could go the other way. But the actual number of people who make the change is really low. And there’s a reason for that, the roles are just very different. Just because you’re a ball playing CB it doesn’t make you a natural midfielder any more than being a goal scoring midfielder makes you a striker.
No
Sir Alex did it all the time. O'Shea, Brown, Da Silva twins, Butt, Smith, P Neville, Carrick, Solskjaer.
Lindelof may be effective there but we have never seen him play in that position so it is difficult to judge.
What is it with these mad threads?
If a player isn't quite up to it in the specialist position they've been selected from thousands to come to the club, then why on earth would they suddenly be up to being moved to another position half way through their career?
Daft.
If a player isn't quite up to it in the specialist position they've been selected from thousands to come to the club, then why on earth would they suddenly be up to being moved to another position half way through their career?
Daft.
All of those players moving positions were temporary. A number of them were utility players to start with anyway.
The poster was proposing Lindelof permanently moving position, which is madness.
Not to mention SAF had the whole ‘best manager of all time and can do whatever the feck I want and make it work’-tax.
I feel like a DM can convert successfully into a good CB, but the other way round just wouldn’t work. Short, sharp passing under pressure is a very difficult skill at the best of times, let alone when you haven’t been practicing that for the last 5-10 years.
Yep.
He absolutely peaked when putting a team with 6 defenders out against Arsenal, with a silly midfield of something like Gibson and similar v Arsenal, and still cruising a 2-0 win out.
They're totally different roles.
When Lindelof has the ball, he has the whole game in front of him, and by premier league standards, tonnes of time.
In midfield, you have way less time, and players all around you.
This is a good example for the thread about fans being influenced by FIFA/FM in their opinions. It's all about 'attributes'.
Right back in the changing room yes
CB in the streets.
DM in the sheets.
DM in the sheets.
FFS this again? He doesn't have the mobility or the positional discipline.
No
No, that's Jones' position.
It was Lindelof before Wan Bissaka. This thread pops up every few seasons since he signed!
Next to Fosu Mensah to add some steel.
And for the DM position in particular, it's particularly obvious that a lot of people have no understanding of the position beyond playing FIFA with assists on and thinking all you need in that position is to hold R2+X and chase after whoever has the ball.
That's how we ended up with this same thread for Wan-Bissaka a few months ago.
Jones takes corners please
I don't disagree but you really hate Lindelof