Lingard signs new £100k 4 year contract (Sky) | Official: Option to extend for a further year

[Ixion]

Smalling could be out the door. Carrick will probably leave. Valencia is at an age where he isn't going to receive a lucrative contract. Rojo is on 70k a week, and that was negotiated years ago. His new contract would be worth over 100k, if and when he begins negotiations. Martial was 19, and Lingard has featured more under Jose. Herrera's contract was formulated under LvG, if he were to resign and Jose expressed his desire to keep him as a first team member, he'd receive more than Lingard.

Squad status, age, previous contract, all relative to existing wage structure (of both this club, and comparable clubs). I'll trust Woodward to make this decision, with obvious input from Jose.

So if all of these players earn less than him where did you get the idea that 100k is our standard wage for a squad player? Just because of Ashley Young? The most overpaid player we have?

We don't have to pay an average player like Lingard 100k to stay FFS, why be held to ransom for someone we wouldn't miss. It's not like any other club is going to pay him that.

 

[Mciahel Goodman]

where did you get the idea that 100k is our standard wage for a squad player?

From Lingard's new contract, mainly.

But, aside from that, Fellaini is on 80k a week. Lingard is clearly more important to the squad than Fellaini, he's also younger and English.

I think it's not that big of a deal.

 

[top1whoisman]

And Ashley Young's salary was always ridiculous, no one thought that was standard (it was mostly because he was a free transfer so we saved money on a transfer fee)

Nope. http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/13882802

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

This thread is not going to be pretty.

First page..... remember reading it at the time.

In hindsight, a bit of an understatement?

 

[AndyJ1985]

From Lingard's new contract, mainly.

But, aside from that, Fellaini is on 80k a week. Lingard is clearly more important to the squad than Fellaini, he's also younger and English.

I think it's not that big of a deal.

Fellaini was another terrible piece of business

 

[minoo-utd]

He earns triple what Dybala does at Juve. Madness.

 

[Ashley R1+O]

Just the paltry 6 million in wages over those years.

I would have thought that pretty good for an honest but limited player with great movement and energy but little end product.

The way people carry on endlessly on here about wages like armchair business owners they should have been championing for him to be earning much more due to the contributions he's made to the club.

 

[Lawman]

Same thing is said about every squad player at ManUt but when they go to midtable they will be key players at the club.

Like Richardson, Gibson and Cleverley?

 

[prath92]

Like Richardson, Gibson and Cleverley?

No. Like Evans, Fletcher, Drinkwater, Simpson, Schneiderlin, Hernandez and many others before them.

 

[Mike09]

I understand that Lingard deserves more than £25k per week, but he shouldn't ask for £100k per week if he loves to play for this club. Even to me £75k still a little bit too much.

Sir Alex would never let Lingard to earn that much money. And I'm sure Lingard will still accept £50k-£65k per week if we offer him that much.

In the end of the day the club has to take the blame for paying players a lot of money. It's not surprising me that a player will ask for more money because the others who don't play worse or better getting a lot of money as well and I'm sure more players will ask more like Martial. I thought after hearing Jose moans on Smalling and Shaw at the start of season we will stop offering ridiculous wages to players but it seems it doesn't change at all!!

And on top of that this thread is getting ridiculous. Especially for people who supported Schweinsteiger should stay with £200k per week back then and right now moaning about Lingard getting £75k or £100k per week.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

I understand that Lingard deserves more than £25k per week, but he shouldn't ask for £100k per week if he loves to play for this club. Even to me £75k still a little bit too much.

Sir Alex would never let Lingard to earn that much money. And I'm sure Lingard will still accept £50k-£65k per week if we offer him that much.

In the end of the day the club has to take the blame for paying players a lot of money. It's not surprising me that a player will ask for more money because the others who don't play worse or better getting a lot of money as well and I'm sure more players will ask more like Martial. I thought after hearing Jose moans on Smalling and Shaw at the start of season we will stop offering ridiculous wages to players but it seems it doesn't change at all!!

And on top of that this thread is getting ridiculous. Especially for people who supported Schweinsteiger should stay with £200k per week back then and right now moaning about Lingard getting £75k or £100k per week.

Why do you care? Honestly why? If he doesn't get it it's going to the men in black suits. The money is there. Let the players have it.

 

[YouOnlyLiveTwice]

I don't really care about what he earns. My problem is that i think a club of our size should have quality competition in every position.

Lingard is not of the standard required imo.

 

[roonster09]

Like Richardson, Gibson and Cleverley?

No. Like Evans, Fletcher, Drinkwater, Simpson, Schneiderlin, Hernandez and many others before them.

What @prath92 said.

Then you have players like King, Bardsley, Cathcart, Heaton, O'Shea, Chester all young players who barely made it at ManUtd but important first team players in PL.

 

[Globule]

He earns triple what Dybala does at Juve. Madness.

And that's one of the reasons we may be able to prise players like Dybala away from clubs like Juventus.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

I don't really care about what he earns. My problem is that i think a club of our size should have quality competition in every position.

Lingard is not of the standard required imo.

Local lad doing well. I don't see the problem.

 

[roonster09]

He earns triple what Dybala does at Juve. Madness.

No he doesn't. He doesn't even earn as much as Dybala and Dybala's contract will be renewed and he will be up there with highest paid players in PL.

 

[sammsky1]

Why do you care? Honestly why? If he doesn't get it it's going to the men in black suits. The money is there. Let the players have it.

As more money pours into the game, the number of players required to compete does not.

As the club dramatically increased revenues since the Glazers took over, its the commercial department who significantly increased staff numbers. But those salaries are measured to different salary scales and easily absorbed by disproportionate revenue growth. As noted elsewhere, many PL clubs have also significantly increased revenue.

Record revenues combined with more equal financial power for other clubs combined with static no of players required means players get paid more.

As revenues increase, expect the player salaries to increase proportionally. Its probably still no more % of revenue than before.

Our football may have declined but we remain an extremely well run his business and capable of calculating an employees worth. In Lingard's case he is more valuable because of home grown quoters, that he is English and from the local area.

£70-100k sounds alot, but within his profession, I'm sure it's close to the current going rate. And as you point out, if it's not spent on players, it goes back to the owners as profit.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

What many don't seem to understand is that as more and more money pours into the game, the actual number of players required to compete does not increase.

As our club dramatically increased revenues since the Glazers took over, its the commercial department who significantly increased staff numbers. But those salaries are measured to different salary scales and easily absorbed by disproportionate revenue growth. As noted elsewhere, many PL clubs have also significantly increased revenue.

Record revenues combined with more equal financial power for other clubs combined with static no of players required means players get paid more.

As revenues increase, expect the player salaries to increase proportionally. Its probably still no more % of revenue than before.

In Lingard's case he is more valuable because of home grown quoters, that he is English and from the local area. All well run businesses are very good a calculating an employees worth. Our football may have declined but we remain an extremely well run his business.

£70-100k sounds alot, but within his profession, I'm sure it's close to the current going rate. And as you point out, if it's not spent on players, it goes back to the owners as profit.

Exactly. It's blaming a player for earning a fortune. But being fine with the guy in the box making millions. We don't watch the guys on the box. Pay the players.

 

[Mike09]

Why do you care? Honestly why? If he doesn't get it it's going to the men in black suits. The money is there. Let the players have it.

Of course I care. Do you not know why are we having a difficulty to sell our players with a good fees? Other clubs couldn't afford the wages. The money is there and should be used wisely!

 

[Billy Blaggs]

Of course I care. Do you not know why are we having a difficulty to sell our players with a good fees? Other clubs couldn't afford the wages. The money is there and should be used wisely!

No I don't know. Enlighten me.

 

[Lawman]

Local lad doing well. I don't see the problem.

Doing well wage wise maybe performance wise I'm not so sure I agree.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

Of course I care. Do you not know why are we having a difficulty to sell our players with a good fees? Other clubs couldn't afford the wages. The money is there and should be used wisely!

Utd is possibly the richest team in the world. But hey question me if I know why were having financial difficulties.

 

[Mike09]

No I don't know. Enlighten me.

It's just a rethorical question which I have provided the answer in the next sentences.

If you are unable to read four short sentences, don't reply mate!!

 

[Raees]

Smalling could be out the door. Carrick will probably leave. Valencia is at an age where he isn't going to receive a lucrative contract. Rojo is on 70k a week, and that was negotiated years ago. His new contract would be worth over 100k, if and when he begins negotiations. Martial was 19, and Lingard has featured more under Jose. Herrera's contract was formulated under LvG, if he were to resign and Jose expressed his desire to keep him as a first team member, he'd receive more than Lingard.

Squad status, age, previous contract, all relative to existing wage structure (of both this club, and comparable clubs). I'll trust Woodward to make this decision, with obvious input from Jose.

Unless it is to negotiate a sponsorship deal with a condom company the last person I would trust to make a decision on football transfers/wages is Woodward.

He has no idea of what is good value for money in the footballing world. That is why we constantly overpay players and pay silly transfer fees ever since he took up his role.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

Doing well wage wise maybe performance wise I'm not so sure I agree.

He's not as bad as he's being called out for

 

[top1whoisman]

Unless it is to negotiate a sponsorship deal with a condom company the last person I would trust to make a decision on football transfers/wages is Woodward.

He has no idea of what is good value for money in the footballing world. That is why we constantly overpay players and pay silly transfer fees ever since he took up his role.

Considering how José talked a lot about "not getting good enough offers" for Memphis, Schneiderlin etc., and how we finally look like getting decent transfer fees, I'd say the gaffer has a lot to say on salaries and transfer fees.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

It's just a rethorical question which I have provided the answer in the next sentences.

If you are unable to read four short sentences, don't reply mate!!

Is the words feck off readable to you?

 

[Mike09]

Is the words feck off readable to you?

I came here to share my opinion. You questioned me, I gave you my answers. You asked the same question then I told you to read my answer again. And now you are being disrespectful to me.

Whatever makes you happy mate.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

Is it wrong that the

I came here to share my opinion. You questioned me, I gave you my answers. You asked the same question then I told you to read my answer again. And now you are being disrespectful to me.

Whatever makes you happy mate.

Ok. ps.i'm not your mate. Mate.

 

[Mike09]

Is it wrong that the



Ok. ps.i'm not your mate. Mate.

What?

You can't even complete one sentence. May be you should go to sleep mate.

 

[redspoony]

I'm pleased with this. I'm not the biggest Lingard fan, but he's a player who has come through the ranks, he's a Wembley specialist and he loves the club.

 

[JohnnyKills]

Wonder whether this is actually a macchiavellian ploy by United to unsettle players at other clubs.

If you're a top player at Spurs or Liverpool and you're on the same money as Jesse Lingard you're going to be annoyed. Maybe this is a cunning ruse to make players like Kane and Mane jump ship, thereby depowering some of our direct rivals, or force those clubs to pay their players more - and use up their budget.

 

[psychdelicblues]

I understand that Lingard deserves more than £25k per week, but he shouldn't ask for £100k per week if he loves to play for this club. Even to me £75k still a little bit too much.

Sir Alex would never let Lingard to earn that much money. And I'm sure Lingard will still accept £50k-£65k per week if we offer him that much.
.

Maybe you should apply to be his agent.

 

[AndyJ1985]

What many don't seem to understand is that as more and more money pours into the game, the actual number of players required to compete does not increase.

As our club dramatically increased revenues since the Glazers took over, its the commercial department who significantly increased staff numbers. But those salaries are measured to different salary scales and easily absorbed by disproportionate revenue growth. As noted elsewhere, many PL clubs have also significantly increased revenue.

Record revenues combined with more equal financial power for other clubs combined with static no of players required means players get paid more.

As revenues increase, expect the player salaries to increase proportionally. Its probably still no more % of revenue than before.

In Lingard's case he is more valuable because of home grown quoters, that he is English and from the local area. All well run businesses are very good a calculating an employees worth. Our football may have declined but we remain an extremely well run his business.

£70-100k sounds alot, but within his profession, I'm sure it's close to the current going rate. And as you point out, if it's not spent on players, it goes back to the owners as profit.

Basically what you're saying is we can afford to waste more money because we earn more money. Right, got it. Let's give Darmian and Phil Jones £100k a week while we're at it. Nah, feck it, £200k. Better spent on them than it going anywhere else in the club.

 

[Mike09]

Maybe you should apply to be his agent.

It would have been a waste of my time.

 

[Kag]

I don't mind the new contract and positive words, but it'd be nice if this praise was extended to other (more scrutinised) members of the squad.

Ruthlessly defending our weaker players while ruthless targeting our more talented players isn't going to work in the long term.

 

[prath92]

I don't mind the new contract and positive words, but it'd be nice if this praise was extended to other (more scrutinised) members of the squad.

Ruthlessly defending our weaker players while ruthless targeting our more talented players isn't going to work in the long term.

He is targeting the underperforming players to make them perform well. You talk as if he has been critiscizing for no reason

 

[Kag]

He is targeting the underperforming players to make them perform well. You talk as if he has been critiscizing for no reason

Many of our players have been underperforming, Lingard included. He's been rubbish for the majority of the season. Fellaini, likewise. Yet they're only ever defended by Mourinho, most probably because he's aware of the criticism they receive via fans.

It is good management, I'd just prefer to see more praise and less criticism in public on the whole, not only to a select number of players.

 

[prath92]

Many of our players have been underperforming, Lingard included. He's been rubbish for the majority of the season. Fellaini, likewise. Yet they're only ever defended by Mourinho, most probably because he's aware of the criticism they receive via fans.

It is good management, I'd just prefer to see more praise and less criticism in public on the whole, not only to a select number of players.

He expects Shaw to perform better than they do as everyone probably agrees he has a high ceiling. Clearly Shaw isn't working as hard as he should be and at this point mourinho probably feels this is the only way left is to give him a small kick on his backside.

mourinho critiscized a few players he felt didn't put in the effort they should have. Fellaini and lingard have always put in their efforts.

 

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