Lionel Messi is OFFICIALLY the Greatest Player of all Time (CONFIRMED OFFICIAL)

Oh come on dont down play it

The world cup is the pinnacle and everybody knows it

Ask Ronaldo if he'd swap those CL's for a WC and he would.

The WC is the pinnacle in the eyes of those who think it's the pinnacle. I don't see that. 3 consecutive ChL trophies is a bigger feat in my view.
 
What do you mean timed it better? He was miles from Rio, Rio didn't even jump :lol:
Read it like a book! Once saw Ronaldo score a towering header in pitch blackness so it’s more than getting in the end of it!
Plus it was a great header anyway. VDS had no chance
 
I've always preferred prime Ronaldo over prime Messi, but now Messi officially GOAT. Truly sad year for Ronaldo, but I hope he will bounce back as he always does.
 
Imagine thinking a game at the end of their careers decided anything :lol:
 
Can't deny it. Much better than Ronaldo. It's a top 3 now:

Messi, Maradona & Pele.
Ronaldo did insanely well to get in the conversation after 2012 but there's just no comparison in terms of overall game. Messi was/is by far the superior player
 
It was over long time ago :lol: .
What do Ronaldo has? Meaningless goal tally and 4 UCLs that he won with Real Madrid
World cup is just final blow
 
Yup. Can't be argued. So happy for him. Incredible performance in the final to win it
 
People who actually watched the likes of Pele, Maradona or whoever might still subjectively argue that the performances they saw from those players were better but on paper there's no real argument against Messi being the greatest.
 
I've always preferred prime Ronaldo over prime Messi, but now Messi officially GOAT. Truly sad year for Ronaldo, but I hope he will bounce back as he always does.
It's your perogative, but how can you not prefer watching a player who at his peak scored 73 goals in a season?
 
Read it like a book! Once saw Ronaldo score a towering header in pitch blackness so it’s more than getting in the end of it!
Plus it was a great header anyway. VDS had no chance
Honestly not sure what point you're making :lol: was a great header though so let's leave it at that.
 
I am still never sure about ever as it's hard to compare era's but he is better than Ronaldo. But then the gap between those 2 and anyone else is beyond huge
 
I don't think Ronaldo (C) is even in the contention for the absolute greatness that we are talking about here.
The top three are Messi > Pele = Maradona. That's tier 1.
Then there's daylight.

Then there are half a dozen others.
 
Even now, there are Ronaldo fans in here arguing this and their tears are delicious
 
CR7's fans in the mud. How can you even argue it still. The ultimate prize just went to Messi.
 
Aye debate is done.


He done the last part he needed to push him to the top.


Away to see if Piers Morgan is crying yet
 
It cannot be argued. Ronaldo fanboys have absolutely no argument now.


They've all changed to Maradona now :lol:

You know that not a single person on this forum has watched Maradona play more than 30 times and that's being kind

This fecking forum
 
Shorter career but higher highs

Also Messi really has to thank Emi Martinez for this

What higher highs does Maradona have?

Messi scored 91 goals and contributed 22 goals for club and country in 69 games. Maradona at his highest cannot compete with that level of Messi.

Messi carried Argentina to this WC win pretty much, which is the highest high for Maradona.

So not only has Messi matched Maradona in a WC, everything he has done at club level for the last 20 years is just the icing on the cake.

You really are clutching at straws.
 
This win for Messi is like Tom Brady's last 2 or 3 Super Bowl wins.

People kinda knew he was the GOAT, but you'd have either hipsters or haters arguing otherwise.

Now, no one can really argue anymore.
 
I will always be surprised how sheepish people are. One says that the WC is the certification Messi needed, and instantly everyone jumps on the "basic opinion" wagon.

I count club football as a better proxy for being the greatest of all time.
 
I don't think Ronaldo (C) is even in the contention for the absolute greatness that we are talking about here.
The top three are Messi > Pele = Maradona. That's tier 1.
Then there's daylight.

Then there are half a dozen others.
Yeah that's just not true, Ronaldo is on that Pele/maradona level if not above in his own right. Let's not take the piss now.