11 minutes to go for Argentina friendly Vs Curaçao and he’s on the bench still. Good to see him get rest. Just bubble wrap him and send him back to Carrington asap!
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Newcastle 2:0 Man Utd
Yeah he was absolutely right to be pissed off about coming off. What the hell was the logic in that?
Was the only one capable of passing the ball and playing football in general. No wonder he was so frustrated coming off.
A strong indictment on our midfield is that a CB was by far our best passer and most composed player on the ball.
No idea what that sub was all about.
Was he pissed off because of us playing poorly / him coming off or was he just frustrated / arguing because Newcastle were wasting time?
He was pissed off, only to jump from his seat 5 seconds after and starts asking for a fight with Newcastle folks on the sideline 
@GifLord can you gif that?
Btw, is he technically our best player considering the position he plays in? I would say he is, and quite easily. Seems to have the best first touch in the team too.
@GifLord can you gif that?
Btw, is he technically our best player considering the position he plays in? I would say he is, and quite easily. Seems to have the best first touch in the team too.
Fantastic on the ball and the pace in his passing. And bizarre moreso taking him off especially with no eriksen and casemiro ahead of himHe was pissed off, only to jump from his seat 5 seconds after and starts asking for a fight with Newcastle folks on the sideline
@GifLord can you gif that?
Btw, is he technically our best player considering the position he plays in? I would say he is, and quite easily. Seems to have the best first touch in the team too.
Our best footballer is a CB. Second best is a DM.
He needs to coach classes about passing the ball.
Him and varane were good out there in spite of all that shit in front of them
Might be time to try him as a DM with Cas still out, can't do any worse than the alternatives.
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I'm putting Rashford a bit lower based on consistency as the first three more often than not put in at least a decent performance whereas Rashford has his poor games pretty often.
Would solve nothing because then you'd have Lindelof or Maguire in his place, instantly nullifying any theoretical benefits.
Him and Varane were our best players by far (again).
Probably won't happen but you could put Shaw at LCB and Malacia at LB
Came here to say this.
Currently, player of the year for me. While others drops in and out of form, Martinez deliver on a very high level game after game. I thought he was good also today, and deserves more than an average 6. Suffers for the bad performances of many others.
Good on the ball and strong on the ground, weak in the air.
He's our best player - better and more consistent than Rashford and Casemiro.
Playing CB in this team is such a thankless job. And he's consistently great. And dependable.
Playing CB in this team is such a thankless job. And he's consistently great. And dependable.
Tactically he lost his head today. Those long punts were a no go today and he kept at it instead of slowing it down.
Him, DDG and Antony can get a pass today but he was tactically worse than it he seemed.
Him, DDG and Antony can get a pass today but he was tactically worse than it he seemed.
He’s comfortably the most press resistant player we have, which is fecking shocking for the rest of the team to be outshone by a CB. Martial, maybe, but he’s never fit to prove it.
Ironically those long punts were the furthest we got into their half. We couldn’t string a pass together in midfield
I think ETH tried to be more direct this game especially by putting McTominay and Weghorst up front. Issue is, despite the height, these two had nothing to sell against Newcastle CBs. Ended up with their midfield winning most of second ball. Second is a bit better with McTominay back into midfield improved our ability to get those second ball. Still not enough.
Martinez this game got his hand full because of Isak. That guy has all the desirable trait for CF. He comfortably dropped into midfield to help with build up so Martinez couldn't follow him. for the chances around 15th minute (DDG double save). Then arrived to meet the cross, towering over Martinez. Willock chance at the end of the first half ended up with Willock wild shot also started with a direct ball toward Isak. With physique advantage strength and pace, he shielded off the ball away from Martinez, to carry the ball toward our goal.
Apart from De Gea was our best player yesterday. A bit strange to sub him off, unless ETH was just throwing in the towel and wanted to protect Martinez from a possible injury.
To be honest you’re right on this. He had to force the play from deep.
That’s why I was flabbergasted that he was brought off. Probably why he was so annoyed too
Oh Isak was on one yesterday To be fair Newcastle were just good and outplayed us in every department.
Their left back didn’t outplay our right winger, but we subbed him off
For me, when Casemiro is out, he seems the natural choice to play as a DM, with Shaw filling in at CB. Obviously I've never actually seen him play there, but given he used to, he surely has to be better than our current options
Needs to be moved to midfield because we have no hope of anyone else passing the ball with any quality.
Maguire and Varane to stop the Aries bombardment and play martinez in midfield to bring the ball out.
Maguire and Varane to stop the Aries bombardment and play martinez in midfield to bring the ball out.
Antony was responsible for creativity or goal from his RW and Dan Burns was responsible for stopping him. In your opinion who got the job done?
I agree, although Casemiro's excellence is his game intelligence. Martinez does look the best shout though, and I'd do exactly what you suggest with Shaw at CB too.
That’s not the only thing determines which player got the better of the other in the game. If there was one battle we won yesterday, it was that one.
Oh that and if Burn had received a yellow after 13 minds for pushing Antony to the ground and choking him at the same time as he had no other way of stopping him, he would have to adapt his game. Hate it when refs are cowards like that.
I’d concede it was the only proper battle on the pitch.
yeah shaw at CB with Varane next to him, and Martinez as DM looks much more solid than Varane, Martinez, McTominay (or Sabitzer or Fred). Something needs to change in that midfield.
He must look around at the piss poor technicians in this squad and shake his head. No-one on his level.
Licha found him with the long ball a few times. It was working, and one of our more likelier ways of getting a goal.
There must be a reason Ten Hag hasn't done it yet. He's not been afraid to put players out of position. I have a feeling that it isn't our lack of security in CM that's been hurting us recently but lack of progression from deep. When we had McTominay- Eriksen we were still playing well and looked defensively secure (enough). When Eriksen got injured our control of games became weaker but we were still able to progress the ball well enough with Casemiro. But now the both of them are gone there's practically no one in the squad capable of picking the ball up from defence and progressing the ball. I thought Sabitzer would be able to do that but I don't think he has that in him. It must mean that Ten Hag must think that Martinez would not be as good at progressing the ball midfield like Sabitzer can (which I still don't really understand).
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