Bailly and Jones can't be counted upon for more than about 5 games a season.
Maguire had a stinker, Varane missed about 30% of the season and Lindelof we've always known isn't quite up to it as a starter.
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Maguire had a stinker, Varane missed about 30% of the season and Lindelof we've always known isn't quite up to it as a starter.
Similar to Pogba, he made the mistake of not moving him to another position like DM or RB, though Pique surely would have pushed for a move back to Barcelona to play CB. But he moved quite well back then and liked to go forward, would have been an interesting fit at RB for us, though we probably figured Rafael was a 10 year starter.
Not at United he isn't.
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Big fan of the way people always gloss over the fact that Varane has been shite in a United shirt every time they do these summaries.
Maybe that's because he wasn't shit, he played well when he was fit except last few games and his issue was injuries.
He was no better than Lindelof last season.
Maybe when he was injured and was in treatment room.
This in a nutshell
United plan to situate him in the gnome garden under construction at carrington
Lindelof is terrible and I weep every time his 40-strong fanbase tries to pretend he's had an amazing game in his thread after every match, there's a few posters I'd wager have 1000s of posts praising him in that fecking thread.
I am much-maligned on here.
Is he fast? Because if he is, then he might be as good a partner for Maguire as Varane, probably even better considering he's left footed which will be great for our build-up play.
The CBs get blamed for our leaky defense last season, but most of our issues in conceding were not their fault:
1. Poor organization by Rangnick and Ole (huge gaps when pressing high between midfield and defense)
2. The worst defending PL fullbacks in Telles and Dalot
3. Lack of a true DM / poor positioning by McFred
4. Finally, the CBs didn’t have great seasons, but they were pretty fecking busy, and you’re going to concede when you are so poor in transitional defending and the press.
The height debate with Lisandro was literally 60 pages back. He’s very good in the air, statistically speaking, and several Ajax fans have said he’s better than Timber in the air. I grant you that the Eredivise is not the PL, but we’re just going to have to see how he performs. Lindelof is 6ft and is pretty poor in the air IMHO, I believe 33rd percentile in aerials won, and duel % in the mid 50s if memory serves.
Not sure how reliable.
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Yeah I’m no fan either. Not sure what that has to do with Varane though.
Accusing you of such a shocking title change, out of orderI am much-maligned on here.
Where have you been?
He's okay but doesn't always have his own info.
I'm blinkered on Maguire, I hate the way he plays. He's just not my type of defender, and that's not saying Rojo was great, but I'd rather play with peak Rojo than peak Maguire. I keep seeing Maguire get the ball, look down at his own feet start turning into trouble, playing himself into danger, losing the ball, then yelling at someone. Rojo would scythe someone down and laugh.
I knew it would be you, as we seem to be in these threads a lot. We're just muppeting along, geebs.
That's how I see it. Assuming no captain's armband, who'd you have next to Martinez?
I'd be surprised if it's not Varane when fit. Varane is the most athletic, has the massive reputation and won everything, great in the air, good on the ball with both feet... I'd be surprised if Ten Hag picks Maguire over him if he's actually fit. Though if all are fit, I could see Martinez just being in midfield for a bit until things shake out.
Sorry but Maguire at his best for United, ignoring last season, has been a million times better than Rojo at United. How short is your memory.
Varane IF fit, otherwise slab head and hope he can recover his form
You're also forgetting arguably the biggest one and that is a goalkeeper that grew roots on his goal line, couldn't catch a cold or communicate.
Getting Carlton Banks vibes
I’d play him with Varane against the big teams, against lower teams I’d try him as DM, mainly because lower teams are most likely going to play long ball which Maguire and Varane will be comfortable dealing with and martinez would help out in midfield with his dribbling attributes and his good passing, could help us against a low block.
isn't this dude 5"9? Hopefully he slots in at RB
While we are at it should we move DDG to CB since he is tall?
Berbatov at CB was the real deal
This dude is gonna get dunked on a lot
Getting Verne Troyer vibes
Varane deserves a chance - hopefully he can remain fit. He’s a good defender. A priority would be selling Jones at this point. He earns to much and is never used. Won’t sell the captain wither, right? So he’ll stay. I’d rather have Jones and Lindelof go to be honest. Maybe Tuanzebe also at this stage (let him go to a smaller team and play, obviously he has not future as a regular at the club unless he suddenly steps up and impresses ETH - a miracle).
sell VDB? No way. We are already short on midfielders (even if we end up signing FDJ). Plus, id like to see him work with ETH this year. He’ll probably be a back up #10 after reading what Ten Hag said about him today.
Yeah could definitely see that happening
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