Lisandro Martinez | Signs for United

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Miss the old days when we used to sign players after BBC reported we are in for them.

Ok. I maybe exaggerating a bit.
 

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Puyol is actually 5'10. Also La Liga doesn't do as many aerial balls as the PL, that's why Pique failed here.
Fergie let him go because he knew he would never get passed Vidic and Ferdinand, and his contract was running out. Simple.
 

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Puyol is actually 5'10. Also La Liga doesn't do as many aerial balls as the PL, that's why Pique failed here.
Controversial and somewhat outrageous opinion but Puyol would've failed in the same circumstances as Pique, he was a good defender but heavily protected playing in exceptional Barcelona and Spain sides. While he was very good I don't think he's in the same bracket as any of the top CBs from his generation.
 

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That used to be true, I don't think it is any more. From 2021:





Six of the seven highest long ball to short ball ratios belonged to Spanish teams, with the now relegated Burnley having been the sole exception.

The traditional idea of lower/mid level PL sides being hoof-ball merchants is rather outdated.
That's not even new. For as long as I can remember bottom third spanish teams have had two characteristics phyisical to the point of near recklessness, Osasuna being a perfect example and very direct. The stereotype that some people only applies to top spanish teams and even then it doesn't apply to all of them.
 

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Puyol is actually 5'10. Also La Liga doesn't do as many aerial balls as the PL, that's why Pique failed here.
Pique didn't fail. With Vidic and Rio in their prime, SAF had to choose which young CB he wanted to gamble upon. He chose Evans over Pique as the latter wanted to re join Barca. I am sure that he's quite happy with the decision taken considering that they want him to retire against his will and forgive most of their 40m+ the club has with him.
 

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Cannavaro was 1.76m high, it didn’t prevent him from winning Ballon d’Or and be a great CB in general
 

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With him and De Jong our ability to build up from the back should be drastically better.
 

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Looks more of a CDM to me, can run with the ball, composed, pass.

If Ronaldo stays and United gets all their targets

----------------- De Gea
AWB Varane Maguire Shaw
------------------Martinez
-----------De Jong Fernandes
Sancho Ronaldo Eriksen/Rashford

Is hardly a bad starting XI, lots of IFs though
 

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Cannavaro was 1.76m high, it didn’t prevent him from winning Ballon d’Or and be a great CB in general
Yes there are a couple of outliers of midget centre backs who were the best ever.
But that doesn't mean that this guy will be in that company does it?

However, I'll certainly back Ten Hag and hope he knows better than most of us.

It does feel hard to believe he will bench either of Maguire or Varane regularly though. But if he does, and it works, bring it on.
 

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Yes there are a couple of outliers of midget centre backs who were the best ever.
But that doesn't mean that this guy will be in that company does it?

However, I'll certainly back Ten Hag and hope he knows better than most of us.

It does feel hard to believe he will bench either of Maguire or Varane regularly though. But if he does, and it works, bring it on.
If ETH doesn't know better than most of us then we have bigger issues than Martinez not being tall.
 

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People really think he’ll be a DM? Even though ten Hag has said that he isn’t one, and Martinez himself has been playing his best ever stuff at CB?

He will be our LCB with Maguire or Varane on the right.

Also, look how good he is on the ball:



It’s not even a case of he looks good on the ball for a defender. He dribbles and carries the ball nothing like a defender which is the biggest compliment I can give.
Hope he plays in midfield often. Not so sure the centreback position is suited for him in the rough and tumble prem.
 

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Looks more of a CDM to me, can run with the ball, composed, pass.

If Ronaldo stays and United gets all their targets

----------------- De Gea
AWB Varane Maguire Shaw
------------------Martinez
-----------De Jong Fernandes
Sancho Ronaldo Eriksen/Rashford

Is hardly a bad starting XI, lots of IFs though
Martinez is not a midfielder (atm). Ten Hag does have the “skill” to put players on the wrong place in the field though, so maybe you’ll see a maguire on 6 and martinez on CB.

Maybe he’ll even try maguire on 8. You never know!
 
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Yes there are a couple of outliers of midget centre backs who were the best ever.
But that doesn't mean that this guy will be in that company does it?

However, I'll certainly back Ten Hag and hope he knows better than most of us.

It does feel hard to believe he will bench either of Maguire or Varane regularly though. But if he does, and it works, bring it on.
If it doesn’t turn out as expected, Ajax’d be very happy to buy him back for a pleasant fee. No problems there mate!
 
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