As if losing to Napoli 1-0 away is somehow comparable to playing worse than United and being spanked by West Ham
Liverpool 2018/19
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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These fans have just made a laughing stock of themselves. Premier League winners? Don't make me puke. Their usual collapse in the PSG game, rescued only by a lucky last minute goal. Against a well-organised Napoli, maybe around the standard of Watford or Crystal Palace, crap hits the fan. I have always known Liverpool flatter to deceive while all you muppets worry it's their year. Look who's right now.
So Keita is fine... What? He went down like he was in absolute agony.
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Massive overreaction. We've played PSG and Napoli and have 3 points, you're acting like we've been knocked out the UCL. Who is blaming anything? We got outplayed and lost simple, it's not like we lost to West Ham we lost to the 2nd best team in Italy at their ground.
And Man City have experience of winning big prizes? Not in Europe, they're still booing the UCL anthem as they think UEFA are corrupt and have it in for them. And your fanbase is used to winning trophies is that actually helping United now? No, it's more of a hindrance as you're used to winning trophies and every year you don't win one builds massive pressure on the manager.
Losing to Napoli isn't the end of the world but the performance was garbage, Klopp i think was trying to play for the draw but his inability to shut up shop is worrying.
Napoli are the standard of Watford and Crystal Palace?
Yeah you're right the Premier league is finished and we're out of the UCL
Mad how many come across as completely unhinged when it comes to football. One bad performance and Klopp has gone from best manager in the world to PE teacher without Buvac.
Play like that on Sunday and city have their best shot of a first win at Anfield.
Front three are incredibly off form and the midfield combination just isn’t meant to be for every game, it can work against certain teams on occasion but usually it’s very blunt. Against City we desperately need an Ox/lallana/Keita type to play through the lines.
There seems to be some revisionism about the Hendo Milner Gini triumvirate, unless I’m mistaken that’s the midfield we were struggling most using in the latter half of the season. Ox in was the thing making it work.
However the most worrying thing is we look dead on our feet and unable to press, given it’s our most potent weapon especially against city it doesn’t bode well.
Front three are incredibly off form and the midfield combination just isn’t meant to be for every game, it can work against certain teams on occasion but usually it’s very blunt. Against City we desperately need an Ox/lallana/Keita type to play through the lines.
There seems to be some revisionism about the Hendo Milner Gini triumvirate, unless I’m mistaken that’s the midfield we were struggling most using in the latter half of the season. Ox in was the thing making it work.
However the most worrying thing is we look dead on our feet and unable to press, given it’s our most potent weapon especially against city it doesn’t bode well.
Scousers on tour...
Choc Napoli: Milik robbed in the night as he returned home after the Champions victory against Liverpool. He was approached by two bandits on the road to Varcaturo: pistol in the face, they were delivered the Rolex and they disappeared
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Choc Napoli: Milik robbed in the night as he returned home after the Champions victory against Liverpool. He was approached by two bandits on the road to Varcaturo: pistol in the face, they were delivered the Rolex and they disappeared
Yep but City have lost in Europe this season too - none of our teams seem to be doing that great at the mo.
Yeah that....happens in Naples...
The only positives from the game were Alisson , gomez and van dijk. Everyone else were genuinely awful. Worst game we've played since spurs a year ago. Klopp got it well wrong on the day and his subs were poor as well.
Ancelotti knocked out Klopp's Dortmund though.
It was Mourinho whom Klopp beat in the semis in 2013.
Mane fought to make things happen at least. That was probably the worst game I've seen from TAA & Salah together on the right, though.
Agree with the subs. I REALLY wanted Shaqiri to get 20 mins at least - Salah was offering nothing. I still think him being rushed back from the WC has hindered his performances for us so far this season. Honestly, I'd like to see him just rest up during the international break. He needs some time.
EDIT: COT DAMMIT. YOU GOT ME.
@B20 He rarely makes his subs early enough. It’s usually at least 70 minutes in before he does something.
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Exactly. This place is a bit embarrassing really. But, I am looking forward to the wheels coming off eventually. its a very long season and I’ve not seen anything in Liverpool over the past few years, despite building an excellent squad, that worries me they’re going to win something big. Still, that could change soon, but like spurs, they’re very sprursy..It's the United fans who are making a big deal out of it, not us
All the overreaction from United fans in here just shows how desperate you are to see Liverpool fail or even entirely fall of a cliff just like you are currently doing, not trying to have a go at yous but that's really how it feels to me. The Liverpool-related threads get bumped like crazy when we lose a game recently, whereas it used to be "they lost who cares they lose all the time". Some fans look like all they care about is us not winning anything since your season is halfway down the drain.
As for yesterday, just take it on the chin and move on, these things will happen. Beat Zagreb twice and I'm very confident we'll go through. Our focus should be on Sunday now which is one of the most important games of the season for us.
I think our glee might be a bit premature here, they won't turn back into being useless overnight I wouldn't have thought.
But I do think you're struggling slightly for the winning of the League if you lose on Sunday. Whereas a win would be very good. A draw is fine too, I reckon. I'm calling it #Pivotal - but not just because I've been brainwashed by Jamie Redknapp,
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I most definitely do not see Chelsea as much of a threat in the long run, although that Micky Hazard is a little magician, innit.
You're not 'struggling' as much as we are mind, whatever happens -.
But I do think you're struggling slightly for the winning of the League if you lose on Sunday. Whereas a win would be very good. A draw is fine too, I reckon. I'm calling it #Pivotal - but not just because I've been brainwashed by Jamie Redknapp,
.I most definitely do not see Chelsea as much of a threat in the long run, a
You're not 'struggling' as much as we are mind, whatever happens -
.No, Ancelotti beat Klopp more than Klopp did the other. Stop looking for excuses.
Love your posts.I think our glee might be a bit premature here, they won't turn back into being useless overnight I wouldn't have thought.
But I do think you're struggling slightly for the winning of the League if you lose on Sunday. Whereas a win would be very good. A draw is fine too, I reckon. I'm calling it #Pivotal - but not just because I've been brainwashed by Jamie Redknapp,
I most definitely do not see Chelsea as much of a threat in the long run, although that Micky Hazard is a little magician, innit.
You're not 'struggling' as much as we are mind, whatever happens -
So Klopp is a better manager than Pep as he has a better head head with inferior teams? Going by your simple logic.
Let's apply the same logic from your post:
Jose Mourinho against Pep Guardiola - 21 played, 5 wins, 6 draws, 10 losses
Jose Mourinho against Sir Alex Ferguson - 16 played, 7 wins, 6 draws, 3 losses
Jose Mourinho against Jürgen Klopp - 9 played, 2 wins, 4 draws, 3 losses
Jose Mourinho against Antonio Conte - 7 played, 2 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses
Looking at this very limited data set, how do you define who the moron is? It's not as simple as you make it out to be.
I understand you hate Liverpool, love laughing at their demise, but using the logic 'he's lost more to Italian managers makes him a moron's isn't sound. Yes - we could use with a plan B sometimes and personally some of the decisions Klopp makes are baffling, but does not make him a moron. Everybody has a bad day at the office.
I've been reading this forum and there are some really level headed guys who's posts I love reading - without any venom they actually give a good insight on what some of the opponent fans think. But it seems like majority here touted this season to be 'our season' to win it all. After a loss in the 90th minute to a team that is #2 in the Italian league, labeling the manager as a moron and calling it an implosion is a bit much.
Good post. I'm surprised at the number of times Guardiola and Mourinho have gone up against each other.
While you are %100 correct. There’s way too much Liverpool fawning going on recently by supposed united supporters, so while his post was over the top, it’s quite refreshing to see. Sometimes I forget this is a united forum
Can i just say that this thread is a waste of space on our forum?
I can't understand why they don't go and discuss Liverpool 2018/19 on their forum.
All this IMHO.
I can't understand why they don't go and discuss Liverpool 2018/19 on their forum.
All this IMHO.
Eh ,Hello?Planet earth calling. Are you seriously comparing Napoli to Watford and Palace? We werent at the races last night,deserved to lose even by more but such things happen even to the best of teams.We are still a long way ahead of you lot in every aspect.We have solid foundations and a team for the future. I would worry more about how ye are going than a loss for us away to a very good Italian team.
The last time we played Napoli away in a competitive match was nearly 8 years ago in the Europa League under the brief leadership of Hodgson. This was the team for that match
Pepe Reina
Paul Konchesky
Jamie Carragher
Martin Kelly
Martin Skrtel
Ryan Babel
Jay Spearing
Christian Poulsen
Jonjo Shelvey
Milan Jovanovic
David N'Gog
Subs : Brad Jones - Fabio Aurelio - Sotirios Kyrgiakos - Danny Wilson - Joe Cole - Maxi Rodriguez - Nathan Eccleston
I'd settle for a similar result (0-0). But that team, WOW. No wonder we were in the relegation zone a couple of months later.
Should have fielded this team on Wednesday night. Least we'd have held on for a point
Just a bad day at the office, or has our bubble burst early ? I guess we'll have a better idea come 6.30pm on Sunday.
Criticise us all you like, but to say we are a long way off Chelsea is really quite nonsensical. We topped them in the league last season and we're above them this. And I'd wager we'll still be, come May.
And fanbases with a 'mentality and experience of winning big prizes'? What does this even mean?
It means you were a spoilt brat and took it for granted that your team was winning things. Also that when they don't, you just don't feel the connection to the club anymore.
I don't mind reading other fan's opinions here but I have to say there does seem to be a huge amount of cocky Liverpool fans posting in every single thread, even the United related sections is full of them.
It feels more like a global football forum than a Man Utd supporter's forum and I guess that's fine if that the's angle the owners of this site are going for. It's well moderated here and all the staff seem very friendly and approachable, so they're obviously doing a fine job and keep an eye on all of these scousers for us
That @Klopper76 character is quite something though. Basically lives here, he's probably even renting a bedroom on the server, he's here that much
You don't know me or my background. Spoilt?
I'm a Mancunian living in the US. I've been supporting United since Big Ron was in town and have literally spent thousands of pounds (now dollars) travelling to watch and supporting my team. So call me what you want, but not spoilt!
We accept mediocrity because you can't have one team constantly winning league titles and we've had our time in the sun. But we hate the football we play under Mourinho and think we should be doing better with the money he's spent on plyers.
But it's true that Chelsea and Man City have squads to mentally cope with the marathon which is the Premier League. And going from recent history, my point is fine.
The same goes for United as well by the way. We have an indentity crisis and the players crap themselves whenever put under pressure.
But don't call me spoilt
Correct.Should have fielded this team on Wednesday night. Least we'd have held on for a point
Just a bad day at the office, or has our bubble burst early ? I guess we'll have a better idea come 6.30pm on Sunday.
I actually think you guys haven't been playing very well but that's a credit that you are so well set in your system and have improved defensively that you are winning despite not so great play.
The big problem I see for you guys is lack of squad cover in defense. Get mignolet/Moreno/lovren in and your chances of conceding go up exponentially.
How hard is it for you to understand that Klopp is stupid compared to italian managers like Ancelotti and Allegri? Even Klopp said that Ancelotti is much smarter than him. Why can't you just agree with him? or are you saying he's wrong?
lol those managers are better because not only do they have a better winning record, they have won vastly more trophies than Klopp. When Klopp at least wins a CL or PL then maybe he can be compared to Guardiola
I think what's getting up people's noses is you calling Klopp 'stupid'. He's not stupid, he's a very competent football manager. He is, however, tactically naive and a one-trick pony - which is what I think you're trying to get at.How hard is it for you to understand that Klopp is stupid compared to italian managers like Ancelotti and Allegri? Even Klopp said that Ancelotti is much smarter than him. Why can't you just agree with him? or are you saying he's wrong?
lol those managers are better because not only do they have a better winning record, they have won vastly more trophies than Klopp. When Klopp at least wins a CL or PL then maybe he can be compared to Guardiola
Again for the millionth time, he is stupid compared to Ancelotti and Allegri. People need to read in the entire context.. Ancelotti completely owned him Wednesday.
You bang on about "context" in your posts yet fail to recognize that all of those managers have been at bigger clubs with more resources than Klopp. Talk about stupid, eh. Will Ancelotti become stupid in a months or two if we beat Napoli 4-0 at home?lol those managers are better because not only do they have a better winning record, they have won vastly more trophies than Klopp. When Klopp at least wins a CL or PL then maybe he can be compared to Guardiola
Calling someone stupid whilst comparing him to others - what are you, 15? And even then you're mentioning Allegri who was regarded as quite a laughing stock in Italy before he became manager of a dominant team playing in a one-horse league.
I have the Caf on at work so I can read threads when I probably shouldn't...don't tell the boss.That @Klopper76 character is quite something though. Basically lives here, he's probably even renting a bedroom on the server, he's here that much
This really is a very good forum though. It doesn't matter to me that it's a United one but then I'm not from Liverpool so I don't think the rivalry is the same for me as it would be for someone from the north west.
You're fine my manI have the Caf on at work so I can read threads when I probably shouldn't...don't tell the boss.
This really is a very good forum though. It doesn't matter to me that it's a United one but then I'm not from Liverpool so I don't think the rivalry is the same for me as it would be for someone from the north west.
I like hearing your opinions and thoughts.
It helps if you're open minded when debating stuff with people on here.You're fine my man
I like hearing your opinions and thoughts.
Liverpool are a far from perfect club, Klopp has his flaws, our players make mistakes etc. If you're not then you can't really have a decent conversation with anyone.
Have you just called everyone a muppet who's concerned they might actually do something because of one game in a different competition?
What about Napoli being the equivalent of Watford or Crystal Palace
Please stop. Klopp didn't exactly have the budget of Watford at Liverpool and Dortmund. He spent over 100 million on keita and fabinho and they look average at best so far. Go get triggered in RAWK or something lol
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