Liverpool are going to break Arsenal's 49 game unbeaten run | HAHAHAHAHAHA LIVERPOOL BASTARDS | Specialists in Failure
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I love it. Then everyone wonders how!? How the fecking feck sake are LFC doing it?! Long may this continue, or long enough to get 21 titles before someone revisits that 'unlucky Wolves game' without the blinkers.
Anfield factor right? Let you down for 30 years but the factor is BACK. Back with a bang eh?
I love it. Then everyone wonders how!? How the fecking feck sake are LFC doing it?! Long may this continue, or long enough to get 21 titles before someone revisits that 'unlucky Wolves game' without the blinkers.
Oh, I don't doubt that you'll beat us. Just one of those games where suspensions/injuries could happen.
I use my own eyes, judgement and now experience with age. I don't think Anfield is a huge factor - it's Klopp that is the huge factor. I also know Wolves were not 'unlucky' at Anfield.
They never once went behind a match past the 80th minute in the league so they did something right. No late staged comebacks, and very few equalisers conceded. You have to remember how 'simple' it was to win the league in the early 2000s (you could lose five games by Christmas and still be in with a chance) and how they raised the standard, for Chelsea the following season to top it with an amazing cleansheet record and record number of points.
Arsenal were suspect in Europe but domestically very consistent between 2001 and 2004. The one record this Liverpool team should be aiming for isn't to go unbeaten but to score in every match of a season which incidentally only Arsenal have managed to do in the PL era.
Klopp is the factor. You have a good team now. That's all it is.I use my own eyes, judgement and now experience with age. I don't think Anfield is a huge factor - it's Klopp that is the huge factor. I also know Wolves were not 'unlucky' at Anfield.
Also Wolves were unlucky. Not saying they deserved to win persay but they didn't deserve to lose. It was an incredibly tight game and they were robbed too with the Neto goal. Didn't think you lot played great at all in that game really.
What season?
Jose's Spurs next in line for a smashing by Pool, no Kane, no Ndombele, Eriksen cbf's and is on his way out anyway. Is Son missing because of the red card?
Spurs have looked woeful when I have seen them, barely managed a shot on target against Southampton. Dont see anything but a fairly straight forward 2 or 3-0 win to Pool.
Spurs have looked woeful when I have seen them, barely managed a shot on target against Southampton. Dont see anything but a fairly straight forward 2 or 3-0 win to Pool.
01/02. That side was probably better than the Invincibles.
38 games
Man. City away is potentially the 49th fixture.
Unfortunately but fair play to them they are looking like they wont barely drop points let alone lose a game.
The results definitely suggest that, the performances really don’t.
39 games
Liverpool basically need 30 points to win the title. If they win their next 9 games, the 10th win would seal the title. It would also match Arsenal's unbeaten run.
That 10th game just so happens to be Man City away.
That 10th game just so happens to be Man City away.
Would be beautiful, but I don't see city keeping up our pace over the next nine games.
Liverpool have been incredibly consistent for getting on 18 months now. Crazy really.
Do you accept the arguments of the league being the poorest it’s ever been? Not to detract from your impending achievements as United/Chelsea and Arsenal have all won leagues where the league is poor. Just I’ve a couple of Liverpool supporting mates who insist it’s a very strong league and I just can’t see it.
It's a difficult one to be honest. Apart from Liverpool, everyone is taking points off each other which indicates that it is quite a strong league. Take Liverpool out of the equation and the league looks fairly strong and back to how it was in the 90's/00's where the top teams lose 5-6 games a season and no team can be sure of a win.
League is probably worse this season than last.
I don't think the Prem will ever be as strong as it was in 07-08. You could argue the 4 best teams in the world were all from the Prem.
Still they've been impressive. Hopefully someone beats them.
I don't think the Prem will ever be as strong as it was in 07-08. You could argue the 4 best teams in the world were all from the Prem.
Still they've been impressive. Hopefully someone beats them.
City won what 198 points over the course of 2 seasons and have fell away this season, Liverpool must be on for a similar total so will be interesting to see if they can do what City failed to do and keep it up for a 3rd season
I think the top six outside of ourselves are as poor as they have been in a while. In other seasons, those are the teams that would likely take points off a team like this. Even city are more like a strong arsenal side than the behemoth they've been the past two years. The etihad game is basically the only league fixture left where I'd say we aren't favourites to win on paper.
Beyond the top six I think the league is as good as ever though. Teams like Leicester and wolves are really good and the likes of Palace, West ham, Watford can give anyone a game on the day. But we're too good for these sides now. City, Napoli and Chelsea are the only ones who have had the quality to match us in a game this season and Chelsea still lost despite winning the midfield battle.
The thing I think most aren't seeing properly when they wonder how we keep winning is how difficult we are to play against. It must be a nightmare trying to play your game against us, or even defend the way you are used to against us.
And our in game management is the best in the world. We can always pick up an extra gear when we need a goal and are generally comfortable sitting on a lead. We have the best defence in the world, both in possession and out of it and that accounts for a great deal in our run.
The crazy thing is that I reckon this team has another level in them with a new player or two in midfield and attack.
indicates a balanced league, not necessarily a strong one
I'd say the league is quite cack at the moment. United, Spurs and Arsenal are all thoroughly meh (didn't Spurs get trashed something like 8-0 by Bayern or was that last year?) Chelsea is scrappy, but mostly just a side of enthusiastic toddlers and City, while still good, are dropping points like they are <insert funny analogy>.
Sure, Liverpool is also really good, but from what few matches I've seen from them, they always seem in risk of dropping points. They never actually do, but still. It's not like Pep's Barca and Bayern sides that just scored 6 goals before halftime without breaking a sweat.
Sure, Liverpool is also really good, but from what few matches I've seen from them, they always seem in risk of dropping points. They never actually do, but still. It's not like Pep's Barca and Bayern sides that just scored 6 goals before halftime without breaking a sweat.
You mean it wasn’t cos all the European powerhouses were in transition?
This is the new version of Liverpool bashing. It used to be about bottling it and not winning anything. Now they win marginally.
Plus, the measure of strong team has now been aligned to some sort of aesthetics-metric. If Liverpool's relentless efficiency isn't entertaining you then they can't be THAT good. Some of the most heralded sides in history were far more pragmatic and attritional that this Liverpool side.
Ehh, I'm not really after bashing Livepool, they just don't look like coasting to victory effortlessly. I'm also Dutch, we're all about aesthetics without actually winning anything.
Not sure I agree, City have one of the best squads in PL history and 198 points in two years shows that. They didn’t even make a mark on the CL though with Spurs and Liverpool (twice) being in recent finals. Add to that Chelsea and Arsenal being in the Europa final last year I feel the prem is as strong as I’ve ever seen it.
Quality of the PL is declining year on year.
Quality of the top European sides has also been sliding for a while. The lack of competition domestically is starting to comeback on them. You've also had Real & Bayern rebuilding & an ageing Messi & Suarez at Barca.
It's incredibly frustrating that we peaked when the PL & Europe was still relatively strong. These lucky sods are peaking when everybody else is on a downward spiral.
Seems forgotten that the European finals had all English teams. But the quality must be bad.
Did a quick sim using my own data. That gave me a chance of equalling Arsenal's unbeaten run of roughly 25%. City away is the last game in that run which brings that number down quite a bit.
Just want to see them lose now. The league's theirs, probably the points record as well but seeing them achieve all three in one season and surpass the unbeaten record will force me to get the vomit bucket out.
That said, if they do lose to Wolves I can see some of their tight wins turning into draws, and maybe the points record gets halted.
That said, if they do lose to Wolves I can see some of their tight wins turning into draws, and maybe the points record gets halted.
Imagine if they win the treble
The points record or going unbeaten in the league is most certainly not a priority. Klopp has not put much effort in the domestic cups, so I can't imagine these records means something to him either.
I assume we will be fully focused on the league until CL knockouts. If we still have such a large gap then, we may rest players in the league for CL and end up dropping points because of that.
I assume we will be fully focused on the league until CL knockouts. If we still have such a large gap then, we may rest players in the league for CL and end up dropping points because of that.
That's much more to do with United, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal being terrible than the league being strong (unfortunately for us). We've had a shocking season and we're fifth.
It's really both. Big teams can't coast by on player quality anymore because the TV money has allowed midtable teams to buy very good players. The gap is now sufficiently small that a big team having a bad season will get dragged into the midtable dogfight immediately instead of coming 4th/5th/6th at worst.
3 teams in CL semis last year, 2 in EL final
I mean, did we though?
We won the Champions League in 2007/08, a season in which:
- Juventus just got back from Serie B because of calciopoli
- Bayern didn't even play in the CL
- Real Madrid were slap bang in the middle of their amazing "can't even make the last 8 in the CL" run
- Barcelona finished 3rd in La Liga behind Villarreal and struggled to get past Celtic in the CL, as the likes of Ronaldinho and Deco basically couldn't be arsed anymore and "just give it to Messi" wasn't as effective as in later years
- Milan clearly didn't have another run like 06/07 in their ageing squad and in the end finished 5th in Serie A
Our biggest rivals both home and in Europe were Chelsea, managed by Avram fecking Grant.
We were a fecking great team back then and fully deserved all the trophies. It was a fun ride and all. But frankly, denigrating Liverpool's achievements because "the competition is weak" makes us look very bitter and RAWKish, especially considering the above.
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It’s because you are on a United forum and Liverpool are walking the league of course it’s weak. The reality is a all English final CL and EL and all English teams are in the knockout stages in CL, EL.
The league may not be the strongest it’s ever been but it’s still the best in world football right now
Unlikely because Klopp seems to not care about domestic cups and has a bee in his bonnet with the FA anyway over the fixture schedule.Imagine if they win the treble
They could easily win the PL n CL double though like we did in 2008. In fact I think they will do. Who is realistically going to beat them? City at a push could if they have Laporte back fit. Wouldn't fancy any of Madrid, Bayern, Barca or PSG over two legs vs this Liverpool team. They will all cack themselves at Anfield like usual.