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Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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That's because the question is subjective, I dont rate Nani as highly as you for example. Valencia is the better (more effective) winger, and Ashley isn't far off what Nani produce imo. I don't want Nani sold, no, he's a terrific player... all I'm saying is that he doesn't deserve parity with Rooney and RvP when it comes to wages, then Valencia should too, as well as Kagawa... it would create knock-on effects of jealousy and unrest.
Nani is better than Valencia.
Valencia only relies on pace, while Nani can create goal from nothing.
Also Valencia out of form is very poor.
In relative terms £130k p/w isn't that much for Nani. I know he has patches where he falls out of the team but his development is ongoing and he's getting better every season. Even if we sold him for £30m, who could we buy that is as good, has the same sort of potential and wants less than £130k p/w?
I'm guess there's a bit more to the story.
I'm guess there's a bit more to the story.
Contrast that to several months earlier in another article also by The Sun:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ks-over-megabucks-new-deal.html#ixzz24UDK7in0
That's utter nonsense, Valencia can be as predictable as you want, he is still impossible to stop with his physique. Works harder than Nani, produces more dangerous crosses and has learnt to cut inside as well. Most importantly, Tony doesn't lose half as much possession. That said, they are both world class.
That's a matter of opinion. I'd have Valencia over Nani any day of the week.
Same here, Nani has got that touch of technique which is a key component in being a slightly overrated player.
I completely disagree.
Nani is more versatile and complete player, technically superior to Valencia and can also score more goals. In a few years when Valencia loses his pace, Nani will still be at top level.
Not really, he's got more than a simply good touch and technique. When it comes to that he's one of the best players in our team. Add that to the fact that he's one of the best dribblers in the team, is a good crosser, quite fast and has a good shot on him. Valencia is better when you deploy him as an out and out winger, but Nani is the better player of the two overall. He definitely has more to his game than Valencia.
Nani is actually probably the most underrated player on the forum here. Valencia has generally been accurately rated but some in this thread are making him out as a bit better than he is.
I admit I'd be tempted by 32m+ pounds of oil money, but only if we are going to replace him. Valencia isn't a replacement, neither is Young. Doesn't make sense to sell him now and drastically weaken our squad. Unless SAF were to use that money on a world class midfielder, and change back to 433... van Persie - Rooney - Welbeck, the new holy trinity.
It's about time we had a Nani vs Valencia debate
Why don't they take Young instead for the same 40m 
I dont get this. And who should replace him? Nani is a damn good player, one of the best we have, are you aware of that?
Nani is worth at least 45 mil pounds, anything below that is a bad business for us.
And there is no point in selling because that money won't be available for suitable replacement, like when CR was sold. Glazer's $$$
And there is no point in selling because that money won't be available for suitable replacement, like when CR was sold. Glazer's $$$
I'm pretty sure the club wouldn't think twice if somebody gave 30/35m.Nani is worth at least 45 mil pounds, anything below that is a bad business for us.
And there is no point in selling because that money won't be available for suitable replacement, like when CR was sold. Glazer's $$$
Well as soon as we pass Sep 1st we can forget about getting a good fee for him.
It's a situation I cannot understand. I like the player a lot although he does frustrate me. But it has to be a case of he signs a new deal or we get rid before the window shuts.
If not the ball is firmly in the players court like RVP and Nasri.
It's a situation I cannot understand. I like the player a lot although he does frustrate me. But it has to be a case of he signs a new deal or we get rid before the window shuts.
If not the ball is firmly in the players court like RVP and Nasri.
Selling Nani is bad business at any price, I hate this modern obsession with being more concerned about a possible transfer fee than keeping one of our best players.
Don't get me wrong, I agree. But my main concern is it is a very dangerous game leaving his contract in the balance. In a weeks time, Nani can do what he wants.
In a week's time Nani will still have two years left on his contrat...
Nah. I know the Andy Carroll thing has been done to the death, but it really does stand with Nani.
If Nani goes at this point for less than Andy Carroll then everyone at the club needs firing/shooting. Gill, The Glazers, the directors, even Fergie...the lot.
Edit: Thought you said Euros...sorry.
Yes but if he then decides he does not want to sign, the rumours and speculation will carry on all season and he will leave next summer for a significantly smaller fee than if we sold him right now..
Ideally I want him to sign. I would like him to stay, but I wanted done ASAP.
Van Persie left Arsenal for a huge fee, considering he only had a year left. Ashley Young left Villa for a fair bit and he also had a year left on his deal. We would probably still get around 20 million for him if it came down to that, but I don't think it will and reckon he will sign a new deal within the next month.
why would we sell one of our best wingers... Rooney was even worse
Nothing to,do with Rooney? This thread is about Nani. It is a relevant topic because his current contract situation looks like it is at a crossroads.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Fanzone/News-And-Blogs/2012/Aug/red-voices-manchester-united-podcast.aspx
They're giving away Nani's shirt. Obviously, Daily Mail are going to say he's off.
They're giving away Nani's shirt. Obviously, Daily Mail are going to say he's off.
Not in today's squad 
I think we can all speculate now.
All is not right with Nani and Utd
All is not right with Nani and Utd
He's not involved because he was crap the other night.
Not happy he didn't even make the bench, as poor as he was.
Yes, but it's definitely not the first time a player has been dropped completely.
He's gonna be off. Its as clear as day.
Load of bullshit from the club.
Load of bullshit from the club.
I think there is obviously something more. Might be a play for him to sign a new contract. Or it might just be that he was shit against Everton.
If all wasn't right, he wouldn't have started on Monday. I think it's just SAF flexing his muscle with such a deep squad, the experience of Scholes and Giggs is vital with the injuries at the back too and of course SAF is going to load the bench with forwards with us at home. He might have also picked up a knock, I'd take £40m for him if it meant we brought Javi Martinez though.
If he is sold it is indeed a lot of bullshit. Wont be happy
We've had our strongest squad for years and we should not be weakening it by selling important players. It would be stupid to get rid of Nani at this point in his career unless we're certain he's not signing a new contract, although I don't see why he should not be on closer wages to Rooney.
Like others, I'm surprised he's completely dropped.
Clearly Fergie doesn't think he's as good/important as some on here are keen to insist he is.
Fact is, he's been regularly rotated throughout his United career and last season Young seemed to be preferred on the left.
Maybe he isn't necessarily up for sale but "available" hence the Zenit rumour as well as the constant links to Italy.
Clearly Fergie doesn't think he's as good/important as some on here are keen to insist he is.
Fact is, he's been regularly rotated throughout his United career and last season Young seemed to be preferred on the left.
Maybe he isn't necessarily up for sale but "available" hence the Zenit rumour as well as the constant links to Italy.
Settle down mate.
Does anyone actually know that he's been dropped and not picked up a knock?
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