I hope he stays. He can drive you mad at times but he's streets ahead of Valencia.We are a lot more watchable when he's on his game I think. He's up there with our most gifted players for sure, probably in the top two or three even.
Ekeke.
He'd be a very good signing for most teams.He'd be a very good signing for a team like Spurs. Maybe a swap deal could be arranged?
QPR away, Spurs at home and Wigan at home.Has he played a full 90 in the league this year? I thought he done well yesterday. He certainly didn't want to come off, and I'm sure most people thought it should have been Tony V making way.
he looked pretty determined to do well yesterday, plus looking disappointing to being substituted with ten mins to go, it didn't give any indication of him leaving or wanting to leave united.QPR away, Spurs at home and Wigan at home.
Not enough really. Certainly in recent week should've featured more but considering most believe he's half way out the exit door, you can see why he's barely involved.
Nani has the ability to be the best of all those you've named, and he was the best between January 2010 and the end of 2011. As it is, Bale's better then him but he's still way more talented than the other two.We could keep Nani as a squad man behind Bale and Valencia. Young, however, would have to pack his bags.
Nani lacks something that Bale has in abundance. The ancient Greeks had a word which has no direct translation in English -- thumos. You can take it to mean spiritedness or, possibly, manliness.I can't help but feel when we're looking at wingers to sign, that a player like Nani would be ideal to bring in, yet we're looking to sell him instead of showing some faith. He'll be a great player for whoever gets him.
Nani has the ability to be the best of all those you've named, and he was the best between January 2010 and the end of 2011. As it is, Bale's better then him but he's still way more talented than the other two.
Maybe Nani should be asking himself why that is.Nani is by a large margin our winger and he should be the first player on the team sheet. He has no competition for his role and still doesn't get starts, terrible.
I was surprised when he was taken off ahead of Valencia yesterday. Valencia was probably more involved than Nani but Nani looked miles more dangerous with the ball.Even yesterday, not playing regularly and probably with quite a lot of pressure to perform, he looks so much better than Valencia or Young. When Nani gets the ball you at least know that he may try to attack and take his man on - something you don't get whatsoever with the others. I no longer get excited when Valencia gets the ball because it never amounts to anything more than just a short pass back inside or down to the RB.
We don't know what's going on contract-wise, but he deserves to be on at least as much as Young or anyone else in the team barring RVP and Rooney.
I reiterate my previous post that if we do sell Nani and he gets regular game time at his new club, we will be made to look rather foolish for letting him go.
The only reason is that he has not yet signed a new contract.Maybe Nani should be asking himself why that is.
It's funny reading this thread how Nani is apparently the victim.
If I was Nani I'd be asking myself why players with less ability repeatedly get selected ahead of me.
I should have included that reason in my last post as a possible reason. Yes, it could be a reason for him getting less game time but it works the other way round too. If he was performing at the level he can, I doubt Fergie would hesitate in offering him what he wants. Also, didn't his indifferent form start before the contract issues?The only reason is that he has not yet signed a new contract.
Was that the reason last season too?The only reason is that he has not yet signed a new contract.
Nani lacks something that Bale has in abundance. The ancient Greeks had a word which has no direct translation in English -- thumos. You can take it to mean spiritedness or, possibly, manliness.
Nani is a more gifted athlete than Bale. Nani has more tools in his locker. But his head is his worst enemy. He spends far too much time fukking around and whining about calls not going his way. Bale just gets it done. If you could Bale's head and heart into Nani's body you'd have a player approaching the genius of Ronaldo. As it is, we have Nani, a footballer who will likely be dumped for 15m.
What a load of rubbish.We could keep Nani as a squad man behind Bale and Valencia. Young, however, would have to pack his bags.
He made more appearances than both Young and Valencia last season overall, it was only really after the awful performance against City he was flat out dropped, usually before that it was due to injuries.Was that the reason last season too?
A point which seems to keep getting missed by so many people who can't seem to praise Nani without slagging off the other two wingers. If he isn't playing well enough to get ahead of two players that are allegedly so shite as Valencia and Young, what does that say about Nani?I've been an admirer of Nani's talents for awhile and I thought he was genuinely one of the league's top players for a year and a half or so, but it's gone pear shaped for him since, and badly. Niggling injuries haven't helped, but you can't help but feel it's him who hasn't kicked on from that. Even though he seems to be better than our other wingers everytime he plays, it's largely because our expectations from our wide players has sunk so low. He's still got quality but it just doesn't seem to be coming from him regularly. The intensity too just seems very low. Him not getting games could be a reason but then again I don't see why Fergie would shut him out for no reason. He musnt be impressed with the effort levels Nani is putting in or something.
All in all, he needs to buckle up soon if he doesn't want to waste his immense talent. With Valencia's bad form for me it isn't as big a deal because he never had anywhere near the same potential. Same with young. Nani should be in the top tier instead of struggling for game time.
He's not "much better" than an on form Valencia, I don't know why people go so overboard when one is playing poorly and then the other plays well. If the situation was reversed I'm sure someone would say similar about Valencia.It really is depressing how much better he is than our other wingers.
Should have had 2 assists yesterday.
It is a fair point even though I'd like to add that it only highlights the players, Nani in this case, flaws and faults. Another POV that is interesting to take is that Ferguson could also be blamed for managing Nani poorly.A point which seems to keep getting missed by so many people who can't seem to praise Nani without slagging off the other two wingers. If Nani isn't playing well enough to get ahead of two players that have been so below par this season, what does that say about him as a footballer?
Another point that keeps getting missed is the fact that Fergie doesn't just pick teams based on what happened the last time we played a match. He works with the players, day in, day out, in training. If Nani finds himself in and out of the team and playing poorly when he does get his chance, then chances are he's not performing in training either. When he has got opportunities, it's probably on the basis of looking better on the training pitch. Interesting that he seems to have taken his thumb out of his arse in the build up to our biggest game of the season. Shame he didn't put in more performances like he did against Madrid, during matches and during training. If he had, there's absolutely no doubt he'd have played a lot more games this season. Probably also have got the contract he wanted too.
The problem with Valencia is that he has not just lost form, he has lost skill. Form is not something that lasts for 12 months and even Valencias best performances of this year was far worse than his average performances the previous year.He's not "much better" than an on form Valencia, I don't know why people go so overboard when one is playing poorly and then the other plays well. If the situation was reversed I'm sure someone would say similar about Valencia.
On their day, they're both top class wingers and in an ideal world, for me, we'd have both here next season back to their best, which unfortunately is very unlikely due to his contract situation.
If you read my post I didn't say he was "much better" than Valencia.He's not "much better" than an on form Valencia, I don't know why people go so overboard when one is playing poorly and then the other plays well. If the situation was reversed I'm sure someone would say similar about Valencia.
On their day, they're both top class wingers and in an ideal world, for me, we'd have both here next season back to their best, which unfortunately is very unlikely due to his contract situation.
Valencia isn't a winger, or something?"It really is depressing how much better he is than our other wingers"
He has played as a regular all season and hasn't regained his skill nor been anywhere near. That is a loss in skill, which may be from confidence/fitness/mental reasons.Valencia hasn't lost his skill, he's lost his confidence.
But this is not the thread for such things.
"Definition of form: b. Fitness, as of an athlete or animal, with regard to health or training."I won't go into a debate about Valencia in this thread, we have a Valencia thread for that, I just strongly disagree that he's somehow lost his skill.