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Lukaku + cash for Skriniar. Please!
You can accuse Martial of a lot of things, but other than LVG, no other manager at United has played him in that position. Even when Lukaku and Rash keep missing chances, Ole didn't even consider to try Martial there. He has some big faults, but show him some faith and confidence and try him in that role. He has good technique and is mostly a composed finisher. Since he's never been put in that position though, I don't think he can be criticised in this instance.If Lulaku is "simply not good enough" the same could equally be applied Martial , Lingard and Rashford , especially the last two. Martial is good enough , he just simply could not be bothered .
I am not defending Lukaku in any way. Actually I think he should leave. I also think that United fitness people should be fired. Lukaku looks like a body builder, Shaw look obese, our fitness levels borders to the ridiculous etc. Anyway that's beside the point.Very strange comment given that he struggles to win aerial challenges and his poor first touch means he can't hold the ball up.
He is one of the 5 worst forwards in the league in terms of workrate.
PL stats for goals scored and also "big chances missed". This season he's missed 25% more big chances than he's scored (unless your barometer is Rashford whose biggest weakness is his finishing).
Lukaku - missed 15 big chances / scored 12
Rashford - missed 16 big chances / scored 10
Mane - missed 11 big chances / scored 22
Salah - missed 16 big chances / scored 22
Vardy - missed 17 big chances / scored 18
Kane - missed 11 big chances / scored 17
Aubameyang - missed 23 big chances / scored 22
Aguero - missed 10 big chances / scored 17
Lacazette - missed 13 big chances / scored 13
Firmino - missed 9 big chances / scored 12
Josh King - missed 10 big chances / scored 11
Ashley Barnes - missed 13 big chances / scored 12
Jimenez - missed 10 big chances / scored 13
Lukaku's skillset for Everton was using his power and pace to counter-attack - he was never a typical target man. That's exactly the system that Ole and Mourinho have been playing. The problem is that due to his excessive weight gain he's lost the majority of his pace/stamina and has therefore significantly reduced the runs he makes (proven by his sprint stats). He's also lost that yard of pace that meant he could arrive in the 6 yard box often for a tap in. Numerous times we've seen the ball flash across the box where the Lukaku of old would have a simple chance - nowadays he's on the edge of the box blowing and pointing at his feet.
The perfect combination for the Lukaku of Everton would be a central midfielder with an eye for a pass who could find him 50-60 yards from goal and allow his power and pace to bulldoze his way into the box and slide it in 1v1. The absolute perfect player for that role is Pogba... The problem is nowadays Lukaku isn't fit enough to run these 60 yards more than once per half and even then it renders him completely out of action for the next 5-10 minutes.
Yeah sell a striker and replace with a right back. So that would be one solved and one unsolved and back to square one. Amazing logic.Sell him for 50-60 million. Use those funds for AWB.
Buy wan bissaka = One position problem solved.
Yeah sell a striker and replace with a right back. So that would be one solved and one unsolved and back to square one. Amazing logic.
Don't think our ability to sign a right back rests on selling our best finisher even if he's fat.
While this may be true to some extent, but not if we replace him with Rashford thoughWhat we'll lose in his goals we'll more than make up for in competence and ball control.
Could you imagine if we sold a 75m striker for a big cut down, and used the money on a Palace right back.Yeah sell a striker and replace with a right back. So that would be one solved and one unsolved and back to square one. Amazing logic.
Don't think our ability to sign a right back rests on selling our best finisher even if he's fat.
Yeah but with his pace he'll get at least 5 - 10 goals in the PL next season, which is probably more than Lukaku would playing out on the right wing.Isn't he a winger?
Signed in to say just this.Lukaku + cash for Skriniar. Please!
What goals are those then? The guy is useless currently, and a youth team player would easily replace his small amount of goals, whilst at the same time vastly increasing control of the ball, and hold up play.Inter is linked for 50- 60 m.
While its a fair price, I think we should keep him. Not much options there who can replace his goals.
you don't play him, you will not get goals . Simple.What goals are those then? The guy is useless currently, and a youth team player would easily replace his small amount of goals, whilst at the same time vastly increasing control of the ball, and hold up play.
Get rid. Playing Lukaku is like playing with 10 men.
I’ve seen the same, we start a counterattack and instead of running into the box he runs into the right flank. I think it must be due to coaching instructions , but still I think we need a complete forward that can retain the ball and distribute it.If we had a couple of wide players who could cross the ball with some accuracy, Rom would flourish. As it is, we attack mostly down the left flank, which reduces his effectiveness. But my problem with Rom is that he is often found outside the six-yard box. I've lost count of the times the ball has been played in their and there's been nobody to attack it. It's frustrating and it's maybe down to coaching.
The perfect combination for the Lukaku of Everton would be a central midfielder with an eye for a pass who could find him 50-60 yards from goal and allow his power and pace to bulldoze his way into the box and slide it in 1v1. The absolute perfect player for that role is Pogba... The problem is nowadays Lukaku isn't fit enough to run these 60 yards more than once per half and even then it renders him completely out of action for the next 5-10 minutes.
If Rashy scored 2 less and Lukaku was shit, where does that put Rashford?Replace his goals? Pogba outscored him this season and Rashford scored only 2 less.
He's had a shit season and is constantly flirting with other clubs/leagues.
Get his fat arse out of here. Him leaving would not hurt us in any way.
This is a Lukaku thread , not saying the rest are decent but we can’t get rid of everyone. I’d keep Rashford and Martial , not bothered bout lingardIf Lulaku is "simply not good enough" the same could equally be applied Martial , Lingard and Rashford , especially the last two. Martial is good enough , he just simply could not be bothered .
I dont know, might have something to do with the fact that he scored 25 league goals the season before we signed him. More than any player this season.why did Jose wanted LKK in the 1st place ? because he is big and strong like drogba ?
Was very clear he wasn't going to fit the way we play though, was also very clear he wasn't a target manI dont know, might have something to do with the fact that he scored 24 league goals the season before we signed him. More than any player this season.
It’s clear that we lack in creativity, width, delivery, build up and transitions. I wonder how this might affect a number 9.Was very clear he wasn't going to fit the way we play though, was also very clear he wasn't a target man
You're too busy being defensive, I wasn't even criticising him.It’s clear that we lack in creativity, width, delivery, build up and transitions. I wonder how this might affect a number 9.
Our home record last season was great and actually Lukaku gets no credit for his work in that season. People are too busy criticising to realise.
It was a general point about Lukaku and this team.You're too busy being defensive, I wasn't even criticising him.
It was clear he wasn't a target man and thats how Jose tried to use him. The rest of the issues with the squad yes I agree with, but it was clear that how Jose used him was never going to really work, especially away from home.
Probably he likes big target men even though he wasn’t. It was either morata or Lukaku. Hindsight is 20/20 but we should of been in it for lacazette or pem. They would fit it more in line with ole’s tactics of course none of those guys were Jose type strikers.why did Jose wanted LKK in the 1st place ? because he is big and strong like drogba ?
It's amazing right, I'm a bit worried about how our attitudes are changing given a period without winning major trophies.Amazes me that some are still willing to defend him.
The bloke is literally fat, can’t run, won’t run, is generally crap at football and thinks he’s the dog’s bollocks.
Get rid. Never wanna see him in our shirt again.
For the first half of the season only.It was a general point about Lukaku and this team.
Away from home we had bigger issues in build up. Which is why moves continuously broke down across the entire pitch, not just with Lukaku. Lukaku is capable of hitting the channels, he is capable of being part of sweeping counter moves. That’s what we needed to work on away from home. We also needed to sign players to help this. At Old Trafford where we had most of the ball we were actually ok. Again though, people were too busy criticising to realise this.
We amassed 47 points at home last season. Liverpool in comparison picked up 53 points this season. We also had that stupid West Brom loss after the City win. That is an impressive record whichever way you slice it.For the first half of the season only.
Anyway its clear you are too overly defensive to hear any criticism of the signing.
I actually like Lukaku and think he is a decent player, not quite the level we need (to win a title or UCL) but he isn't the biggest issue (especially since we are nowhere near competing for those trophies).