simplyared
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Heaping praise over Phil Jones and giving Maguire a dig at the same time. Couldn't resist the opportunity when it came along!
Didn't know this. That's literally how bad we've become. We're so shit that nobody had anything positive to say anymore.These players are seriously protected. The fact that MUTV do not have phone ins any longer. God help us if someone actually comes on air to criticise a player. Poor things.
Yeah, was pretty startled when I saw this last night. Sure, it's just a picture and if it'd been captured a couple of seconds later or a couple of seconds earlier, it might've told a different story. But it perfectly encapsulates our current malaise.
Nail on the head.Think apart from midfield the first area RR will look at is the forwards. His teams play a pressing game but he has inherited two elderly forwards, one who does move around and will put the work in, but whose game time needs managing. The other just want someone to provide chances for him to put it in the net but will put effort in now an again.
I think you might be making Delph's point here rather than Pep's?Tellingly though, Guardiola lets him speak quite a lot. He wouldn't LET him speak if it was damaging or whatever, so there's something in it. And Guardiola has said himself that football is always the same no matter what league you are in - that vision he has for football (the Barcelona one) WORKS because it is simple. It's based around getting the ball and keeping it. Two things we can't do, despite the money we have spent, which is shambolic really.
In an interview with Football Daily in 2020, he said: “They could do with a left-back, I know they have Luke Shaw but I’m not so sure if he’s still on the same kind of level you need for a club like Manchester United.”Didn’t Rangnick say before he took the job that he thought United needed a new left back because shaw wasn’t good enough?
I’d imagine he’s seen that clip by now.
He's almost back to square one now. Still not of the standard required. Samedo's performance last night put both Shaw and AWB to shame.In an interview with Football Daily in 2020, he said: “They could do with a left-back, I know they have Luke Shaw but I’m not so sure if he’s still on the same kind of level you need for a club like Manchester United.”
This was before United signed Telles, and before Shaw hit form in 2020/21, a peak from which he has since sharply regressed.
Its why the phrase "practice makes perfect" has been replaced with "practice makes permanent".This is very true even for fans who have spent years watching in person for decades. It's also true of many players. There's a telling moment in the Manchester City Amazon Prime doc where they are losing at half time to us. Some thick English player (Delph I think) is all shouty with 'It's a simple game' and 'we just have to tackle harder' and all the crap you hear on the Caf when we lose. Guardiola just turns to him and quietly says 'No it's not a simple game. It's really complicated.' And then gets out the whiteboard.
Seeing as Shaw is the one and only outfield player in our current squad to sustain a top level of performance over the vast majority of games throughout a whole season he’s the last player we should be worrying about after a crappy first half of this season.Jose was right about him. All the ability in the world but he's lazy and lacks application.
He's almost back to square one now. Still not of the standard required. Samedo's performance last night put both Shaw and AWB to shame.
phil Jones entering the field on his invisible jet pack like a bossYeah, was pretty startled when I saw this last night. Sure, it's just a picture and if it'd been captured a couple of seconds later or a couple of seconds earlier, it might've told a different story. But it perfectly encapsulates our current malaise.
You clearly do blame them for that otherwise you wouldn’t have brought it up.The players are a tragic bunch. Many are paid more in a week than the average person earns in several years.
I don't blame them for that, but my god, make some bloody effort you bunch of soft gits.
It's embarrassing.
You could certainly say that but it is rather concerning that even if we need an upgrade over Shaw it is still something like 8th or 9th in terms of priority as the RB position is significantly worse, not sure any of our central defenders is good enough, we don't have anybody fit for purpose in the midfield and our two senior forwards are geriatrics in athletic terms. Wide attackers, left back and GK are probably the least urgent areas to address.Jose was right about him. All the ability in the world but he's lazy and lacks application.
He's almost back to square one now. Still not of the standard required. Samedo's performance last night put both Shaw and AWB to shame.
He’s been shite since January and we were shite from sept to December last year. Ridiculous take.Far too many of them believe their own hype.
Reality - we’ve been carried by Bruno since he signed. His unrreal form made us look a lot better than we are. He loses form and the rest of the squad are exposed.
At RB I'd give Ethan Laird a shot. Seems every inch the modern fullback yet we've loaned him again.You could certainly say that but it is rather concerning that even if we need an upgrade over Shaw it is still something like 8th or 9th in terms of priority as the RB position is significantly worse, not sure any of our central defenders is good enough, we don't have anybody fit for purpose in the midfield and our two senior forwards are geriatrics in athletic terms. Wide attackers, left back and GK are probably the least urgent areas to address.
Maybe I remember incorrectly as it's been a while but Pep seemed to -encourage- Delph to give these talks. Am I misremembering or was it more nuanced than that?I think you might be making Delph's point here rather than Pep's?
Shite by his standards only. Still the only one who looks like making anything happen.He’s been shite since January and we were shite from sept to December last year. Ridiculous take.
As I recall it in that scene Delph was running his mouth off and Pep shut him down. But that might be how it was edited rather than how it was.Maybe I remember incorrectly as it's been a while but Pep seemed to -encourage- Delph to give these talks. Am I misremembering or was it more nuanced than that?
Jones looks on fire. Literally a shoulder and a head and maybe half a torso taller than the rest. Loved how he got 'feeling' and dribbled all the way to their box before realising he's the CB and handed it over. Wish more had his attitude.
Look at Shaw there. Looks like a guy who’s been part of a row “back stage” Confidence on the floor. I think the players have started blaming each other and it’s not sparked a reaction it’s just put us in free fall. Greenwood also has a pained expression.
Agree with this. I also felt Carrick used to leak a lot to the media as well when he was a player.Honestly I'm pretty sure most of the leaks for the past few years come from Shaw least now he's being public with it
Long story short some of the player are kicking off about high press because it doesn't suit their playing style. Shaw won't be one of them. If I had to guess I'd say the ring leaders would be:Look at Shaw there. Looks like a guy who’s been part of a row “back stage” Confidence on the floor. I think the players have started blaming each other and it’s not sparked a reaction it’s just put us in free fall. Greenwood also has a pained expression.
Disgraceful to see. Look at Jones for comparison.
If only more players were like Jones and played once every two years.. No wonder he's pumped up and the rest aren't ffs.Disgraceful to see. Look at Jones for comparison.
He has the heart of a warrior... but he took an arrow to the knee.If only more players were like Jones and played once every two years.. No wonder he's pumped up and the rest aren't ffs.
That was a couple of years ago when Shaw was playing like crap.Didn’t Rangnick say before he took the job that he thought United needed a new left back because shaw wasn’t good enough?
I’d imagine he’s seen that clip by now.
Yeah, hundreds of thousands of pounds a week would depress me too. Can you imagine the strain on their tiny little minds having to do the maths?If only more players were like Jones and played once every two years.. No wonder he's pumped up and the rest aren't ffs.
It’s a sound bite for people to read too much in to as always with football. I thought Shaw was pretty spot on when he spoke live, but despite all that, he’s only confirmed a lot of stuff we’ve all suspected since the end of last season, which is licence to go wildThis is blown up to something it isn't. He felt some should have given more on the pitch, that's about it.
Does Haaland do more than Ronaldo in terms of workrate and buildup?If we are serious about the title next season, we need to strengthen the spine after getting rid of the deadwood.
Haaland if we can get him or another out and out striker. Cavani will be gone. Ronaldo, the revenue generating singing will be here. That is a problem Ralf and the new manager will have to manage.
A DM and bring back Graner.
A quick CB and get rid of Maguire.
Yes, it's not even a question.Does Haaland do more than Ronaldo in terms of workrate and buildup?