this. Ole wont be impressed either.
Luke Shaw says Manchester United need signings
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I'm all for it. Painfully obvious we need it so anything that'll create any unrest in the management until they do something about it will work for me.
We need a LB to replace Shaw as well.
But you are a moaner for everything. Not related to transfers only. Deal with it.
Including his replacement!
I'm sure he realises competition for his spot will be one of those signings, its all over the press and players arent daft (in footballing terms at least)
Probably what Shaw was thinking. New LB, = less running I have to do.
Shaw: We need signings.
Club signs Telles to replace him.
Shaw: Surprised pikachu face
Club signs Telles to replace him.
Shaw: Surprised pikachu face
Ok, thanks. That's more understandable. Although it's usually the stars of the team that speak about the need for more quality signing
.Exactly, clearly he wants to win things and thats why he said what he said.
Shut yer gob Shaw.
Message is correct but absolutely no way a United player should come out with this after losing to Crystal Palace. FFs you are part of the rot
Next game, Lindelof comes out with we conceded because the club didn't upgrade the defence
Next game, Lindelof comes out with we conceded because the club didn't upgrade the defence
This happens all the time in the real world. The company I work for just made a shitload of redundancies. My teams workload and expectations on them to complete projects has just gone up. Do we bitch and moan when things go wrong because we made mistakes? We don't blame "oh, we should have more people", we say "we made the mistakes". He just blamed nothing for his mistakes in a game. He should have the balls to say, the players on the pitch for Manchester United should be more than good enough to beat Crystal feckING Palace at home.
Seems fair to point out that we have done the least amount of business of any top half Premier League club. He wasn't being disrespectful at all, so yeah. Good on you Luke
Luke's realised the club might actually need him to stay fit for an entire season. *panics in Luke Shaw. "WE NEED TRANSFERS".
Yeah. Strange coming from him because if we talk about replacing first XI players his would be one of the first heads on the chopping block
So you're saying Shaw is wrong and we don't need to add to the squad? Just because you don't say it at your job, doesn't mean others won't say it at theirs. When there are call outs at jobs and the work being done is going to be affected, they usually try to call someone in. We've needed to call people in... for years. No depth. Lack of quality. This is considering we want to be a top team. If we're okay with being a mid-table team, then yeah who gives a shit. If you want to be good, you need good players brought in/developed, which Shaw said.
You should want ALL the players to pretty much be saying the same thing, since it's true. If we have shit leaders that don't see it for themselves, the players and staff need to speak up or we'll be in this situation for many years to come, or worse.
I've been saying it for many months now.
The club is ruined because of the dismal 14-17 signings + lack of steady UCL income. The Glazzers have "turned off the tap".
No new CB, no Sancho or Depay.
The club is ruined because of the dismal 14-17 signings + lack of steady UCL income. The Glazzers have "turned off the tap".
No new CB, no Sancho or Depay.
Quite ironic is that it will probably only be a left-back they sign. Maybe Daniel James and Victor Lindelof should publicly echo Luke Shaw's sentiment.
Where and when did Shaw make this statement?
Ok, so I am able to separate the notion that to improve our squad we need to add to it, and the idea that beating Crystal Palace requires adding to our squad. Can you honestly say that our team on Saturday wasn't good enough to beat Crystal Palace? So, my issue is Shaw saying we need players in the squad after a defeat to Palace. What we NEED is the players that are currently in the team to beat teams like Palace. The additions to the squad should be to take us to the next level which is competing for trophies. Palace are hardly the next level, unless we have fallen further than I realised.
Honestly, I don't we'll agree on this one, but I think Shaw should have said something else after a defeat than blame a lack of transfer business. Is what he said admitting that he isn't good enough and that we should have signed a better left back? I just don't get it.
I see it as "the club needs to find me and my teammates some help to perform".
Because Shaw is a player who could be under threat from another LB, him saying this gives me a much better opinion of his mentality. I don't care who gets offended by that, those who would aren't cut out to be Man Utd players anyway. We need mentally tough players
For all we know he could have been informed to say this by Ole. Might have been Harry but given the shit storm he is in probably best he stays away from any controversial opinions. If Pogba said it then WW3 so Luke seems the only logical choice after that.
Guess he would be fine with that. Luke dosen’t come around as a hard working LB that want to fight for his spot. He’s probably fine with a game here and there as Telles will be first choice LB in no time if he’ll join. So Luke can go back being the injury prone specialist with Rojo and Jones.
Thanks for this.
So its the Metro, quoting a TV2 interview undertaken after the game, its not a first-hand quote and is somewhat out of context, but it is true. So, Shaw can't complain, those were the words he was quoted as using!
Why do players make such statements, do they think because its to a foreign sports outlet it won't get printed in the UK?
Mourinho always gave the impression he thought Shaw was a bit of a 'nob-head', this sort of proves it. Doesn't Luke realize he would be in most peoples top five list of 'replacements required'?
Shaw should never have commented on this regardless. It divides the club and creates strife and a sense of disunity.
He can call Ed if he wants to, complain to Ole. Not to the media imo.
Also makes it look like the squad doesn't accept blame for the performance and suggests his team mates aren't good enough.
He can call Ed if he wants to, complain to Ole. Not to the media imo.
Also makes it look like the squad doesn't accept blame for the performance and suggests his team mates aren't good enough.
The fact Luke Shaw is saying this is actually a very positive thing and likely means the majority of the squad are backing Ole. If the squad knows the club lacks ambition then more players like Shaw should speak out. Rooney in 2010 took a lot of flack and tarnished his United legacy with his stand off with the Club and Sir Alex but he rightly at that time questioned the club's ambition in light of the city threat. 10 years later the same shit is happening but we're in far worse position. I'd be happy to hear more players speak out to pile the pressure on the glazers and ed along with ex-players who are now piling it on too. This would also be a rare time I'd be happy to hear a Raiola rant where he emphasizes that Pogba will only sign for a club with real ambition.
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Shaw's quote:
"As I said, we have a very good group, but personally I think we need more players to strengthen the squad. It can give us a boost. When you look around at how other teams are strengthening their teams, then we must also do it to keep up with the others."
I think 99.9% of us will agree with that quote, even before the game. Just cause he said It after doesn't make a difference.
And no, I don't think we need sancho to beat crystal palace but it would help if we had at least a premier league level player at RW.
At the end of the day, we weren't good enough. They had a better pre-season and were more prepared. I can agree with Shaw's statement that we need reinforcements, while also thinking we should still beat them with our current squad On another day. I'm sure you can Agree with that too. Perhaps it's bad timing of the statement, but bad timing doesn't mean it's not true.
Enlighten us on what you’ve seen on the training ground?
He seems quite honest and channel some ambition about the approach of the entire club to football. Didn't he said once that one of our previous seasons was something close to embarrassment ?
Keep preaching, lad. Glad he joined Rio in telling how it is, but also hoping club will prove them both wrong and do something about it.
Keep preaching, lad. Glad he joined Rio in telling how it is, but also hoping club will prove them both wrong and do something about it.
“I didn't really feel like anyone deserved the player-of-the-year award because of the season we had as a team. There is more to come from me and everyone needs to be better because last season was somewhere near embarrassing." '
This month - ''We need to be strong and focused on winning trophies, not getting into the top four. A club like us should be winning trophies," Shaw added.
He's just telling the truth, don't see why he should be criticised for it.
Cheers, man.
Some might say the players just talk like that to appease the supporters, but it's actually better to hear this than just some business slogans from Ed and Glazer brothers.
Like I said, I can distinguish between yes we need to improve the squad and needing to improve the squad to beat Palace. It could be his comments were taken out of context or were from an interview prior to losing to Palace. But if he made that comment after the loss to Palace then I would question the thinking in putting him in front of a journalist and allowing him to answer those types of questions.
Its bad timing on his part, he should have kept his comments to himself and focused on the result and what it means to the start of the season instead of commenting with a narrative around not having squad depth. Its like he is making an excuse for a bad season before we've got going.
I'm worried about the fact that we have the starting XI we put out against Palace and we use lack of a pre-season or squad depth as an excuse. If we'd had a proper pre-season would he have said "we didn't have enough rest before pre-season"? Very worrying attitude. Shamrock Rovers are well into their season and are far more match prepared than AC Milan but Milan turned up to Dublin, gave Rovers the respect they deserved, but won 2-0 in their first game of the season. I know there's a big difference between United vs Palace and Milan vs Rovers, but there were no excuses, no bs comments about squad depth, just professionalism, turn up and get the job done, away from home. Why can't we expect that from our team?
I'll be very happily surprised if we get top 4 again this year.
Let me know when you remove your head from the sand - or mud as the case may be.
I don’t understand the criticism for Luke here. He told to the media how things stand - OGS himself doesn’t have balls to openly say to public that we need transfers.
Ole just murmurs something along the lines of “we need to improve”, “let’s see if we can bring someone in” etc. which is all very vague whereas the problem with the squad is such that more direct approach is needed
Ole just murmurs something along the lines of “we need to improve”, “let’s see if we can bring someone in” etc. which is all very vague whereas the problem with the squad is such that more direct approach is needed
Still early days but even Everton looks better than us.
Lot of speculation that Ole told him to say that as his comments were only given to a Norwegian outet, where Old is held in high regard. I can see that being true. Let's hope we saw more of it, anything to pressure Ed and the owners
That sounds a lot like lying down and letting your boss walk all over you. Never a good thing to do.
You should always tell your boss if there are major issues with lack of experienced staff or lack of staff in general to do the work. In a small business, it is alright because they should know. But, in a larger organisation how are they going to know anything is wrong if the staff don't complain?
I think Shaw, De Gea, Mourinho were right before saying we need signings. If Solskjaer came out and said it, he will be right as well. There is a point you cannot keep taking 100% of the blame. If management are giving you impossible targets with the staff available, you will have to complain or your performance will be questioned later on.
If you say later 'Oh, it is because we don't have the staff', management will just say 'why didn't you inform us before if it was an issue?' It puts you in a bad position and it fails to put pressure on management to get the correct staff/players.