People were making out he was a William Prunier regen. He was still a good defender but he could play well enough, then do one meme worthy thing and that was what the narrative became.
Why not? Just because he had a good game and we didn’t get thrashed a opinion would change, laughable.
It's safe to say he's had more than one good game, so let's not be silly.
You can, Onana would just have to sweep aggressively high (which I actually thought he would do) and keep the ball a lot better as a team but seems we’re being a lot more risk adverse right now so Maguire is actually being used well. It’s clear the profile of CB we need to complement Martinez but for this season Maguire is probably now our top choice RCB as sad as that is. Those two as a pair as slow as feck though, we need to be buying at least one CB this summer.
Maybe 2nd as Varane is doing himself no favours
Not sure what’s going on there with him, perhaps a bit of a pre-January rift so he can get a move to Saudi
I’d agree with this in terms of my preferences as well.
The realisation that Real only sell players who are done. This is Varanes 3rd season with us and by far his worst
More like Lindelof 3rd, Evans 4th and Varane 5th
He had periods where he was every bit as bad as people make out. The first month or two of 20/21, most of 21/22, arguably the start of 22/23. However some people definitely did go overboard and say he was like that all the time, which was a bit over the top. Last season he was mostly ok. Not good, but also not particularly bad.
He’s a head of Varane now . He’s playing well so have to give him credit. I think he’s lost a few pounds since last season and seems to be able to move better.
He's obviously 1st choice RCB right now.
I was going to say that your comment on the De Gea + Maguire combo was a bit harsh, but as I have mentioned before the one time Maguire really shone for us was around the period where we dropped De Gea and Henderson started most of the games. It's not perfect as his good form started a bit before we dropped De Gea, but it's still interesting and does make you wonder. He's also always looked good for England, and fairly good for his previous teams. So perhaps he and De Gea really did struggle as a combo (De Gea obviously was a keeper with an extremely limited style).
Totally agree, he’s been fair to good not great in last 4 or 5 games and was average against city but the whole team was.
That's very generous of you.
Those compilations arent just one game where he does something meme worthy. Those compilations are multiple meme moments in multiple matches or even multiple memes in one game.
With Martinez out Maguire is playing due to being our best CB on the ball. ETH hates Maguire playing as the left centre back so he has to start on the right and he seems to rate Evans on the left higher than Varane…
I think the silliness is coming from flip flop fans. The simple point I am making of your post. He was embarrassed the game before.
I dunno about that I wouldn't say he's any better than Lindelof on the ball, but he is better in the air and less fragile.
Lindelof is a poor centre back and Maguire has a higher ceiling. Lindelof doesn't get the hate Maguire does because people forget he's there. He's been at the club a long time now but he's be forgotten instantly when he leaves with his reputation in tact.
Maguire is infinitely better on the ball than Lindelof who hardly ever passes the ball forward. The only thing more passive than Lindelof’s passing is his defending.
Nah, Lindelof is better at passing up through the centre of the pitch, both on the ground and his long ball over the top. In saying that Maguire was actually doing the former quite well against Fulham, and Lindelof hasn't been doing the latter much lately. What Maguire has always been very good at and which has really opened some teams up at times is his long diagonal ball out to the left.
I would say, in the interest of avoiding hyperbole, that Lindelöf is a mediocre CB at the highest level (and yes, United still play at the highest level even if we aren't playing particularly well).
Nah. Lindelof is in the bottom 25th percentile for progressive passes. His highest rate since joining the club is 67th percentile 5 years ago - a rate still lower than Maguire’s lowest over the last 5 years. The only on the ball quality he excels at is his regular high pass completion rate - because he constantly passes the ball sideways to his CB partner who has the responsibility for trying to play it forward. Maguire has always been better on the ball than him as any look at their passing stats clearly shows - for example Maguire 4 seasons ago was in the 95th percentile for both progressive passing and ball carrying and the year after the 94th percentile.
Glad someone brought some actual stats to this. Social media and eye test punditry is doing my fecking head in
think this is a good viewpoint. He has been playing well in the way he is being used, but at the same time the team overall sure as hell aint playing in the way it needs to going forward. A smart club would use this time to build his value back up for a transfer, but honestly i fully expect our club to hand out some ridiculous contract extension any minute now.
