Yeah, it's actually borderline offensive, come to think of it
FFS.Maguire | he stays!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
FFS.West Ham are checks bastards.
I’d give it a 2 week deadline and keep him unless a proper bid comes in. No more being treated like mugs
I’d give it a 2 week deadline and keep him unless a proper bid comes in. No more being treated like mugs
What fee do you think we would accept?
£20M-£25M would probably be fair given his wage.
I would be looking for 35m, but 30m is acceptable imo.
West Ham bidding 45m for Palhinha atleast removes any doubt that they are skint even after selling Rice as the resident West Ham fan alluded to. Loan offers/low bids for either Maguire or McT are insulting.
Yeah just want enough to help fund a backup CB and DM in my opinion
Nah. The mighty West Riding. Forget the traitor Edward Heath’s evil Balkanisation
Imagine someone offering 19.5M to tak
Well exactly this is what good business men would do. The initial 80M etc are down the drain anyway. Better get 20 now and off the wage bill than get even less in a year while paying out millions in wages for our 5th choice defender
We have 100m of the Rice money and maybe a pot of 20-40m of our own, and obviously the DM is by far the biggest hole that needs filling. We were going to have to spend big there to get the quality in otherwise we are going to struggle big time.
It's not that we are skint, its that the money has to spread around about 5 different slots and even 100-125m won't go that far with that many gaps needing filling, hence the lower offers in spots where we feel we the weaknesses aren't as pressing.
30-40m on a clear 1st team DM is a different story than 30-40m on a CB when there is already several very solid options in place, especially if thats 30% of the entire budget when youve got 4 other important slots to fill. One is a must have, the other is something you aspire towards if the right deal comes along.
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Hes doesn’t want to leave because hes on a big salary
First off; appreciate your replies in here. What I meant is the optics for being prudent when asking for Maguire/McT doesn't look good when you are straight away bidding 45m for Palhinha (despite him being a very good player and would be a solid buy). Especially when it happens right after you come up with a loan offer for a starting player for England. And isn't both Aguerd and Zouma very injury prone? Being available is one of Maguire's prime qualities.
Whilst Maguire has turned into a walking meme at United, he would still be a very good player/buy for midtable+ clubs. And McT's reputation has somewhat been elevated on the back of his showings for Scotland. Understand that you are trying to get as much value for your budget as possible, but even if both players are backup players for United, they still hold a significant value. Unlike Henderson, who made himself persona non grata at the club. That being said, if DM is your to priority, going for McTominay would be utterly stupid as he is not fit for the role at all.
Winston Bogarde for the Tiktok generation
Predictably annoying.
Idk how he can stay after being stripped of the C….
Can't blame him at all. The interested club just got their hands on 100m and decided he still only was worthy of a loan offer. Wouldn't exactly feel very wanted if I were Maguire.
Money talks. If he had any pride he would have already left
Is he waiting for Real Madrid
He took an L instead
Imagine how insufferable he’d be in interviews if that happened. Even if he was loaned as an emergency back-up for a season, he’d bring it up in every single interview.
*Interrupts the interviewer mid sentence
First let me ask you , where am I playing now ?
*Puts hands on ears and points them in the general direction of interviewer
It only takes a couple of injuries for him to be playing regularly for us again, so maybe he’s hanging onto that.
I can't wait to get rid but loaning him out makes zero sense.
If he is, hes a massive idiot. Martinez doesn't get injured much and hes 4th/5th in the pecking order. The manager doesn't want him and has just stripped him of the captaincy so even if he gets some playing time he will be straight back on the bench when anyone comes back from injury.
He just likes collecting his massive salary. Who wouldn't. His England place is safe by all accounts so he can just sit the last 2 years of his contract out and then probably get paid more that he would do if he moved clubs now.
Crap player earning the salary of a star player in not wanting to leave shocker.
Thanks again, Ole and Woodward
Thanks again, Ole and Woodward
Oh well he’s a decent 5th choice. We’ll just have to remember to ask him not to leave the 18 yard box.
3 injuries
2 - if Varane and Lindelof get injured he starts and the former will get injured
Magxit.
Sooooooo......Spurs maybe? I'm not bashing him but i'm struggling to see where his "no shortage of offers" are coming from, especially considering both fee and wages. I would have thought West Ham might have been ideal, though he'd have to take a pay cut.
He might do well in Italy. Whether or not he'd want to go there is another matter.
Thanks for sharing mate. Very interesting read.
Let’s be honest, he’s a perfectly serviceable fifth choice centre half. He’s good to start eight to ten games a season or come on for us when we are 2 or 3 up at home.
The problem is his wages. He’s only being forced out because we can’t pay someone that much money to sit on the sidelines.
I don’t care if he stays or goes because I’m certain that he won’t play much.
Also, I think he wants to play anywhere more than stay here and not, because he wants his England spot for the Euros.
I reckon he’ll leave in January to a club that’s 8 points or so above the drop zone. The best of that bunch will get him.
The problem is his wages. He’s only being forced out because we can’t pay someone that much money to sit on the sidelines.
I don’t care if he stays or goes because I’m certain that he won’t play much.
Also, I think he wants to play anywhere more than stay here and not, because he wants his England spot for the Euros.
I reckon he’ll leave in January to a club that’s 8 points or so above the drop zone. The best of that bunch will get him.
That Sky presenter who made a great “'he’s not short of options” PR for him needs to get paid by Maguire, he's making him sound like prime Nesta . £25-30m from West Ham should just about do it. He would do well under David Moyes.
. £25-30m from West Ham should just about do it. He would do well under David Moyes.It’s nice to see the wave of support for Lord Harry Maguire.
Time for the men in black to pay a visit, if he won't go we need to make him haha!
It's not a bad deal if we can't sell him. A fallen captain is a negative influence and a dressing room bane.
I think it would serve no good to have him in the dressing room next season,be patient for a few weeks, someone may emerge as firm bidder by then.Everyone will sniff a bargain!
Is he actually in our USA tour squad?
Is he actually in our USA tour squad?
I am kind of surprised that he isn't more fearful of losing his England place for the Euros, given he is entering his second season as effectively 5th choice.
I can think of 200,000 very good reasons why he wouldn't want to leave...