I can think of 190,000 reasons a week it might make some sense, obviously a sale is better but taking 10m pounds off the wage bill isn't nothing.I can't wait to get rid but loaning him out makes zero sense.
I can think of 190,000 reasons a week it might make some sense, obviously a sale is better but taking 10m pounds off the wage bill isn't nothing.I can't wait to get rid but loaning him out makes zero sense.
It is when you have to spend more than 10m to get a replacement + wages.I can think of 190,000 reasons a week it might make some sense, obviously a sale is better but taking 10m pounds off the wage bill isn't nothing.
I doubt they would pay all his wages, but even if they did, we would still have to fork out on a replacement. I'm not a fan of his, but he's worth 30m +, and we need to be getting a fee for him. A loan makes zero sense.I can think of 190,000 reasons a week it might make some sense, obviously a sale is better but taking 10m pounds off the wage bill isn't nothing.
If Varane and Lindelof got injured it would be Martinez and Shaw at centre back wouldn't it?2 - if Varane and Lindelof get injured he starts and the former will get injured
No doubt that he's the one holding all the cards. I was reminded yesterday that he still has three more years on his current contract! If he has assurances from Southgate that his place in the England squad is secure, he can wait until the summer and try to raise his stock in the Euros. Maybe a top-six club will think about it, you never know. My guess is that we are OK with that as an option. In the worst case scenario, he can run down his current contract, play the odd cup game and even add a winner's medal as a member of the squad, and, after that, get his agent to find him a club in the Middle East and retire as a very wealthy man.No significant incentive for him to move when big money and also regular starting XI for England national team despite paucity of appearances for club. But who knows what he's thinking at the moment with regards to move/pressing for one
Part of me also wants to see how he does with a new keeper. And we do not deep squad to compete on different fronts. Its just a lot of money for somebody who's potentially behind Luke Shaw in the pecking order as a centre-backNo doubt that he's the one holding all the cards. I was reminded yesterday that he still has three more years on his current contract! If he has assurances from Southgate that his place in the England squad is secure, he can wait until the summer and try to raise his stock in the Euros. Maybe a top-six club will think about it, you never know. My guess is that we are OK with that as an option. In the worst case scenario, he can run down his current contract, play the odd cup game and even add a winner's medal as a member of the squad, and, after that, get his agent to find him a club in the Middle East and retire as a very wealthy man.
Yep. What sort of standard is that setting, seriously, it's tragic.Southgate’s to blame for this as well. Any other player would be seriously concerned about lack of game time costing them a spot in the national team so would be looking for a move quickly but there’s absolutely nothing to worry about for Harry as he knows even if he doesn’t kick a ball all season he’ll still walk straight into Southgate’s first eleven.
Harry, bless him, doesn’t come across as particularly self-aware.Southgate’s to blame for this as well. Any other player would be seriously concerned about lack of game time costing them a spot in the national team so would be looking for a move quickly but there’s absolutely nothing to worry about for Harry as he knows even if he doesn’t kick a ball all season he’ll still walk straight into Southgate’s first eleven.
Yeah, a sweeping keeper (and a more commanding one) will help matters on the defensive end. How much, i don't know... I've argued elsewhere that a centre-halve can make up for his lack of acceleration by reading the game well and being strong and assertive in his challenges. But Harry doesn't look comfortable doing that, either. The only time he seems to be in his natural environment is when he's clearing crosses in the box. I can see him coming on as a sub in the last 10–15 minutes of games when we have to protect a lead and the manager decides to concede a few yards to make the lines more compact. If he can build some confidence from that, it will benefit both him and the club.Part of me also wants to see how he does with a new keeper. And we do not deep squad to compete on different fronts. Its just a lot of money for somebody who's potentially behind Luke Shaw in the pecking order as a centre-back
Does it? It's July 18th. The lack of patience is staggering I doubt he's still here when the window closes, but I do have a sneaky feeling it'll only be a loan which would be dumb dumb.Looks like he'll be staying. Hopefully Southgate grows a spine and doesn't start him (you know he makes the squad) in the competitive internationals leading up to Xmas. Hopefully this will urge him to seek an exit in January for his Euros place.
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Haven't we been one of the worst sides in recent years for defending set pieces though?Watching WHU v. Spurs friendly. Spurs conceded two goals from set pieces. You know what you should do Spurs. Spurs players completely outnumbered West Ham in the box and still conceded.
Think David made the whole defence jittery. Come on Harry is great at defending. Honestly he is.Haven't we been one of the worst sides in recent years for defending set pieces though?
To be fair, De Gea played a big role in that.
Every now and a again they get a guest from one of those youtube fan channels like Flex from United View and he gives more insight then the whole skysports crew.I haven't watched SSN for some time, and now I remember why. Anyone on here could've given more insight, utter shite!
No it wouldn't be Martinez and Shaw, ETH has made it quite clear that LCB's will be left footed and RCB's right footed unless there's no other choiceIf Varane and Lindelof got injured it would be Martinez and Shaw at centre back wouldn't it?
He's essentially 5th choice.
A loan move makes no sense and would go the same way all our loan moves seem to, he'd go there and be crap and then a year later we're stuck with him again. Just like Martial and Bailly.
Didn't he play Varane / Lindelof CB partnership?No it wouldn't be Martinez and Shaw, ETH has made it quite clear that LCB's will be left footed and RCB's right footed unless there's no other choice
I think if we had a big game next season and he had the choice it would be Shaw and Martinez together over Maguire playing with either.No it wouldn't be Martinez and Shaw, ETH has made it quite clear that LCB's will be left footed and RCB's right footed unless there's no other choice
Well you obviously don't believe what the manager tells youI think if we had a big game next season and he had the choice it would be Shaw and Martinez together over Maguire playing with either.
Except the mugs who'd pay £30-40M for this guy.He needs a clean break. If we can get between £30 and £40 million to put towards a more suitable replacement then I think all parties come out of this happy.
Nah, that’s rubbish. Maguire is a good defender and will show that again if and when he gets a move. The narrative that he’s some horrendous buffoon is childish.Except the mugs who'd pay £30-40M for this guy.
1. Stick him in a side that plays a high line and needs their CBs to be good with the ball then a horrendous buffoon is exactly what he is.Nah, that’s rubbish. Maguire is a good defender and will show that again if and when he gets a move. The narrative that he’s some horrendous buffoon is childish.
That said, it’s time for him to leave United.
I don’t think a high line is as much of an issue as people say; it certainly hasn’t been his issue at United. He’s also fine on the ball. No Martinez, but no mug either.1. Stick him in a side that plays a high line and needs their CBs to be good with the ball then a horrendous buffoon is exactly what he is.
2. Stick him in a team that defends a bit deeper and doesn't often build out from the back with the ball and then he can be a good defender.
The thing is though, the clubs who could afford to pay £30-40M for him and also take on his sizeable wages will generally speaking belong to the first group. And on the other hand chances are most clubs where he'd be a good fit they either can't afford him and it's also possible the player himself wouldn't want to take such a big step down. So it's a bit of a conundrum.
This. And the lack of ambition. He is on massive wages and has "nothing to prove". Dear, he was our captain for years.Southgate’s to blame for this as well. Any other player would be seriously concerned about lack of game time costing them a spot in the national team so would be looking for a move quickly but there’s absolutely nothing to worry about for Harry as he knows even if he doesn’t kick a ball all season he’ll still walk straight into Southgate’s first eleven.