Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal: Who Will Win The Premier League First?

[BusbyMalone]

So i think we can all agree, however reluctantly, that Liverpool and City are a class above everyone else at the moment.

United, Chelsea and Arsenal are in a transitional period right now, and Spurs are looking a little…stale?

All those teams need to be ready for when Pep and Klopp leave their respective clubs which, going by what we know, will be in the next two or three seasons.

Obviously it’s still going to be difficult, but they need to be ready to capitalise on their departures.

So, out of those teams, who do you think is heading in right direction in order to compete with City and Liverpool in the next two or three season?

 

[BlackShark_80]

So i think we can all agree, however reluctantly, that Liverpool and City are a class above everyone else at the moment.

United, Chelsea and Arsenal are in a transitional period right now, and Spurs are looking a little…stale?

All those teams need to be ready for when Pep and Klopp leave their respective clubs which, going by what we know, will be in the next two or three seasons.

Obviously it’s still going to be difficult, but they need to be ready to capitalise on their departures.

So, out of those teams, who do you think is heading in right direction in order to compete with City and Liverpool in the next two or three season?

Probably Chelsea if they fix their defense next summer. Arsenal will probably still battling top 4-6 if Emery stay. Same with United unless we have a competent coach and also massive investment on both Midfield and Attack.

 

[Pexbo]

This is very much what United are planning/working towards IMO.

We know we aren’t going to compete with them for the next couple of seasons so we are banking on getting a squad to peak as Pep and Klopp move on and their teams pass their peak.

It’s not easy but it’s a good strategy and our squad is a much better age and level of hunger right now.

 

[BusbyMalone]

This is very much what United are planning/working towards IMO.

We know we aren’t going to compete with them for the next couple of seasons so we are banking on getting a squad to peak as Pep and Klopp move on and their teams pass their peak.

It’s not easy but it’s a good strategy and our squad is a much better age and level of hunger right now.

Yeah i would agree with that. I actually really like what we're doing off the field. We may have left our squad a little thin, but the players we got rid of were surplus to requirements and i much prefer the make up of our squad now.

Patience is obviously key, and i think if we can squeeze into the top four or get Champions League qualification via the Europa League, then i think most fans will accept that and recognise the direction we're heading in.

 

[PoTMS]

This is very much what United are planning/working towards IMO.

We know we aren’t going to compete with them for the next couple of seasons so we are banking on getting a squad to peak as Pep and Klopp move on and their teams pass their peak.

It’s not easy but it’s a good strategy and our squad is a much better age and level of hunger right now.

I certainly hope not - it's a pretty shitty strategy. Manchester United should not be writing off a couple of seasons. Whose to say either of them will move on?

 

[Pexbo]

I certainly hope not - it's a pretty shitty strategy. Manchester United should not be writing off a couple of seasons.

Because spending record fees and wages trying to get us to compete immediately has really worked out well over the past few years...

We're a county mile behind Liverpool and City, the idea that we could sign a few players and make this squad challenge for the league is beyond optimistic.

Whose to say either of them will move on?

Of course they might not, but we stand a better chance of competing with them if we develop a squad rather than keep trying to sign high profile names to drag us along with their individual talent.

 

[Sandikan]

The idea that we're writing offa few seasons until pep and klopp go is hilarious.

What if their next manager picks up the reigns and continues their current form?!

 

[diarm]

I don't want to say Spurs are never going to win the league, because miracles like Leicester do happen every now and then. But barring something similar, Spurs are never going to win the league.

 

[PoTMS]

Because spending record fees and wages trying to get us to compete immediately has really worked out well over the past few years...

We're a county mile behind Liverpool and City, the idea that we could sign a few players and make this squad challenge for the league is beyond optimistic.


Of course they might not, but we stand a better chance of competing with them if we develop a squad rather than keep trying to sign high profile names to drag us along with their individual talent.

The idea that this is a conscious strategy of ours is hilarious.

Why not? Lesser teams have overhauled their team quicker. Our problem was and still is our scattergun transfer strategy and not buying what we need. We've had two transfer windows and are arguably no better, if not weaker. I agree we shouldn't solely be targeting big names but that wasn't my point.

Why would we be happy to sit on our hands while being naive to think Liverpool and City will stand still?

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Chelsea.

As of right now with the Glazer ownership, with Woodward making decisions and with the under investment, I genuinely don’t think United will win the league again. We’ll just progressively decline to Nottingham Forest levels in 20/30 years.

Hopefully we get taken over before that happens

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Probably Chelsea. They have an amazing tendency to oscillate between title-winning seasons and disastrous seasons.

 

[BusbyMalone]

The idea that we're writing offa few seasons until pep and klopp go is hilarious.

What if their next manager picks up the reigns and continues their current form?!

It's not about "writing off a few seasons", it's about being realistic about where we (and those other teams mentioned) are at the moment compared to City and Liverpool. Pep and Klopp have obviously had a huge impact and as long as they are there they will probably continue to be the standout teams.

And yes, of course they could hire the next manager who slots right in, but they could also quite easily get it wrong. When those two managers leave their respective clubs it's going to have a huge impact on them, and the teams behind them. Realistically speaking, that's our best chance of getting back to where we need to be. Obviously it's still going to be difficult, as i already said.

 

[Mcking]

Think Chelsea. They've got a promising team currently, and they always find a way to win.

 

[Mcking]

Think Chelsea. They've got a promising team currently, and they always find a way to win.

 

[bludsucker]

United of course. Infact i will stick my neck out and say we will win the league before Liverpool do.

 

[Skills]

Chelsea

They know what they're doing usually.

 

[JustABall]

I think it will be at least 4 seasons (including this one), before we can mount a serious title challenge.

It all depends on the development of a young nucleus of players (Rashford, AWB, McTominay, James, Greenwood, Gomes and Garner). And also our recruitment over the next few windows.

Looks like our 3 signings this season will be a hit. We need our future transfers to also work out.

I can’t see anyone outside City and Liverpool winning it anytime soon.

 

[Inter Yer Nan]

I think us. A few big "if's" of course, maybe Ole surprises us and is the man for the job or maybe we get Poch. I think if your next 3-4 signings are of the James, AWB, Maguire quality and attitude then we are moving in the right direction. We are always going to be a big pull because of who we are and we'll pay.

 

[Casanova85]

Chelsea. Sooner than later they'll sign a good manager and the 2-3 right players and win another league, 2010, 15 or 17 style.

 

[Megadrive Man]

Chelsea. Lampard has already got them playing good football and has the full support of the fans.

 

[Liver_bird]

Chelsea. Sooner than later they'll sign a good manager and the 2-3 right players and win another league, 2010, 15 or 17 style.

Quite possibly, however most of those seasons were based on strong defensive resilience, they’re going to need to sign another centre half and full back of top quality in my opinion. But they do seem to have a lot of tools in place, the one thing counting against them is their tendency to sack managers and hit the reset button. I don’t think they can afford to do that with lampard.. whether he wins trophies or not they need to give him a couple years to set foundations in place.

 

[hobbers]

Chelsea in 6-7 years time.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Spurs, then Chelsea, then Utd and Arse equally.

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

Chelsea have more genuinely talented young players and are more likely to spend big

 

[Lee565]

Chelsea, impressed with the style the Lampard has implemented and I liked that he is flexible with his set up like against wolves by going 352 to counter how he knew they were going try to play.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Think a freak team will beat all 4.

 

[Klopper76]

Chelsea normally do after a few seasons without winning it.

I think United will hit a decade without winning it and I'm not convinced Arsenal have the infrastructure currently. Spurs might've missed their shot now. I'm not sure they'll get another manager as good as Pochettino is.

 

[bosnian_red]

United IMO. Chelsea don't spend like they used to, don't have the allure they did when the got Hazard and last summer sold Hazard. Think they're in for a prolonged period of top 4 challenging at best. United have the most money and a very good group of youngsters, someone will get it right sooner rather than later. Money will always eventually make its mark, and thankfully we have enough money to feck up for 6/7 years and keep spending big and luring big players.

 

[Tomuś]

United of course. Infact i will stick my neck out and say we will win the league before Liverpool do.

Spoiler

 

[Dancfc]

United IMO. Chelsea don't spend like they used to,

If the youngsters keep up their trajectorys, we won't need too!!!

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

United IMO. Chelsea don't spend like they used to, don't have the allure they did when the got Hazard and last summer sold Hazard. Think they're in for a prolonged period of top 4 challenging at best. United have the most money and a very good group of youngsters, someone will get it right sooner rather than later. Money will always eventually make its mark, and thankfully we have enough money to feck up for 6/7 years and keep spending big and luring big players.

Everything you've said about Utd there is probably more applicable to Chelsea. Nothing to say Chelsea aren't still attractive to top players, I expect them to outspend the teams around them next summer and sign Sancho.

 

[shamans]

United will.

 

[antihenry]

So i think we can all agree, however reluctantly, that Liverpool and City are a class above everyone else at the moment.

United, Chelsea and Arsenal are in a transitional period right now, and Spurs are looking a little…stale?

All those teams need to be ready for when Pep and Klopp leave their respective clubs which, going by what we know, will be in the next two or three seasons.

Obviously it’s still going to be difficult, but they need to be ready to capitalise on their departures.

So, out of those teams, who do you think is heading in right direction in order to compete with City and Liverpool in the next two or three season?

I'm not sure I agree with the notion that other clubs have to wait for Klopp and Pep to leave to have a realistic chance to win the league. The EPL is the most competitive league in the world, imo and it's difficult to dominate for long periods of time even if you have lots of money, great squad and a top manager. This season it looks like it's going to be a two way battle for the title again, but I don't think other top top six sides are so far away from City and Pool.

Arsenal have a great attack but the rest of their team is not close to the required standard, unless they spend wisely, they're top four material at best, but nowhere near the contender.

Chelsea have a crop of some exciting young talent but they lack experience at this level, so this season we may even finish outside of top six, I really don't know what to expect. As long as the team keeps improving and Lampard keeps learning, we're going to be fine because come summer, we're going to spend big and in 2020/21 season it's going to be a different side, hopefully more mature and better equipped to deal with challenging for trophies.

United will keep spending and sooner or later will assemble a very powerful squad, they already have some pieces, like Chelsea, but not quite the whole picture, in fact they're probably closer to the fiished article than us, because they were able to buy in the summer.

Spurs, I feel, are in most trouble. For all their deserved praise over the last few years, they've won nothing. Their first eleven is quality, but their bench is short and the project is running out of steam, they're fast approaching the point where their best players will start looking elsewhere unless Levi decides to loosen purse strings and add quality. They're still a top side and when in form can beat any team, but I wonder how much they've got left in the tank.

 

[Gandalf]

I think United. Couple more windows to fill in the gaps in the squad with the right players just like the 3 hits this summer and we will be contending. I am totally on board with the strategy and the Manager and you can feel free to book mark this and laugh in my face if I am wrong but I fully expect a title within the next 3 years and Ole to still be manager.

Klopp and/or Pep may leave but that is neither here nor there. Wenger didn't leave Arsenal but for all of the talk of domination Arsenal never won another title after their unbeaten season. Success can desert you as quickly as it comes.

 

[bosnian_red]

Everything you've said about Utd there is probably more applicable to Chelsea. Nothing to say Chelsea aren't still attractive to top players, I expect them to outspend the teams around them next summer and sign Sancho.

It really isn't. Since Sir Alex retired in 12/13, Chelsea have a net spend if 103m. They basically adopted a sell to buy strategy that's been going on for 7 years now. They had a few world class players over the years but with Hazard gone, they don't have that top potential anymore. They have very good young players just like we do, but there absolutely is not any question that United is both more willing to spend more than them as well as being a bigger more attractive side for players. Not to say they won't be able to sign players, but I said it during the summer, Chelsea IMO is going to have a transition period now with Hazard gone. Combined with the timing of the transfer ban, they want to give their youth chances, they want to change their culture, they want to do a patient rebuild and I do like that strategy, I just don't think they'll be more than top 4 competitors for the next 4-5 years.

 

[Wilt]

I feel Spurs have gone as far as they can, they had their chance and blew it and I just don’t see Levy ever spending the cash needed to build a PL winning team. Arsenal, nah just can’t see them winning it.

Close call between Utd and Chelsea. I think both teams have exciting youngsters but Chelsea currently have the better manager (there I said it). Utd have the spending power and the history. However, if Chelsea’s transfer shackles are released then.... oh bollocks, I really can’t call it!

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

I don't want to say Spurs are never going to win the league, because miracles like Leicester do happen every now and then. But barring something similar, Spurs are never going to win the league.

Us winning the league would hardly be a miracle or anything on the level of Leicester winning it. Leicester were promoted only the season beforehand and struggled to stay up.

We have one of the most valuable squads, a new stadium which will boost our income to even up the playing field with the rest of the top six, and we're up there in the top 4 season after season. People would never have been able to picture Spurs in a CL final before, but it happened, stuff changes in football.

Not that I think it's all that likely or anything, but it wouldn't be some groundbreaking shock if City/Liverpool dropped off.

 

[Dancfc]

It really isn't. Since Sir Alex retired in 12/13, Chelsea have a net spend if 103m. They basically adopted a sell to buy strategy that's been going on for 7 years now. They had a few world class players over the years but with Hazard gone, they don't have that top potential anymore. They have very good young players just like we do, but there absolutely is not any question that United is both more willing to spend more than them as well as being a bigger more attractive side for players. Not to say they won't be able to sign players, but I said it during the summer, Chelsea IMO is going to have a transition period now with Hazard gone. Combined with the timing of the transfer ban, they want to give their youth chances, they want to change their culture, they want to do a patient rebuild and I do like that strategy, I just don't think they'll be more than top 4 competitors for the next 4-5 years.

Since the TV deals have come in we have relaxed the sell to buy process. We spent 200m In summer 2017 and around the same over the course of last season.

These youngsters are only going to help our cause aswell, meaning we don't have to worry about beefing up the squad and can prioritize funds into the very best player's available. And yes we will still be an attractive proposition, we're based in London and young/prime players of today grew up seeing nothing but Chelsea success.

Whether we will be the first non City/Liverpool side to next win the league is debatable, but long term we will be back up there I have absolutely no doubt about that.

 

[GlastonSpur]

I feel Spurs have gone as far as they can, they had their chance and blew it and I just don’t see Levy ever spending the cash needed to build a PL winning team. Arsenal, nah just can’t see them winning it.

Close call between Utd and Chelsea. I think both teams have exciting youngsters but Chelsea currently have the better manager (there I said it). Utd have the spending power and the history. However, if Chelsea’s transfer shackles are released then.... oh bollocks, I really can’t call it!

Why not? Our income will soon exceed Arsenal's and will then be on course to exceed Chelsea's. The stadium is now built, our stadium-related debt is being converted into low-interest rate bonds, payable over the long-term so the impact on annual finances will be low, and we make profits.

What else is Levy going to spend our rising income on if not the squad?

 

[Dancfc]

What else is Levy going to spend our rising income on if not the squad?

Isn't that kind of the point of being a tightwad though?