How much damage are you prepared to do to the club in this aim?
Man Utd updated schedule - 4 games in 8 days | Roma, Villa, Leicester, Liverpool
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
If there is, then we'd forfeit the game. I don't think there'll be another rescheduling. Indeed, it's hard to see how there could be, there's no space.
Wouldn't enjoy that very much, to tell you the truth, though I sympathise with the sentiment and purpose of the protests. No sense in burning the house down.
Also, it may not be a wise strategy for building support for any sustained protest to force fans to choose between protesting against the Glazers and the success of the team on the pitch. You don't do scorched earth on your own territory. (Well, the Soviet Union did, but then they had leadership that didn't exactly rely on warm approval from the fan base).
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Agreed. I think it's a very real possibility.
Hopefully Chelsea beat City (for obvious reasons) to make this fixture congestion a moot point from a Chelsea perspective.
Name me one elite club in Europe with worse owners. I will wait.
They have made this club pay for their own takeover. We have been saddled with THEIR debt which is still huge by the way. 1.5bn lost forever through non footballing reasons.
Explain to me how we could get worse. I really fail to see how. Fergie was the glue holding the club together. Since he retired it's fallen apart.
I personally wouldn't care a jot about them getting the three points. If we don't get top four it won't be because of a cancelled game.
If the Glaziers (or at least someone high up) talks to MUST or whoever, then I think another protest would be avoided but if theres nothing, the players buses will get blocked in, I would bet on it.
A peaceful protest outside the ground where the buses get waved at will achieve nothing and I think the protest organisers agree with me.
Whereas if the match is called off, obviously that'll change everything.
They have got to find a way to do this that doesn't interfere with the team playing. If they don't, I for one am not supporting it. Trying to drive the owners out through fan protest is unlikely to succeed, but it's worth trying. But there's a limit to the damage that is acceptable, and for me that stops at hurting what the team is trying to achieve on the pitch.
Liverpool, Chelsea, City, Barca, Arsenal, Spurs, Real for starters.
You are going to have a hard time selling that fairy tale. It had nothing to do with smaller teams or the league. Do your thing but don't try and sell it as something it definitely is not.
I’m not looking for gratitude and will admit first and foremost we were trying to get rid of the Glazers. But you have to admit it is good for you guys and the other small teams. We’re setting a precedent and it’ll mean the FA are far stricter about who they’ll allow to buy clubs in future.
Plus a strong Utd is the biggest money maker for the league given our global fanbase and the attention we’re given. It’s in your best interests for us to be at the top.
Matches get moved all the time, that's the nature of this league. Fulham and Leicester games against United was brought forward from their original dates and I doubt the PL contacted those clubs to say sorry for the inconvenience...Why should West Brom agree to be inconvenienced for the sake of two ESL clubs?
A lot less than the Glazer ownership causes.
Lads every time you respond to that dildo he gets the horn. I'd never heard of him before a week ago and if ye all stop quoting him he'll disappear back into the woodwork for another "50 years".
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Our players didn’t get the game postponed. Ole didn’t get the game postponed. The fans who travelled there that day didn’t do anything to get the game postponed.
If a car crashed into your house and you couldn’t make it to work, how would you like it if your boss said “well you shouldn’t have let that car crash into your house..”
Our players don’t have to do with the protestors issues with the glazers.
Surprised a mod liked that type of mentality
Your joking right? He might have a happy trigger finger in firing managers (not as bad as watford mind) but he is definitely one of THE BEST owners in the league. Not even on a football level either, he has supported the NHS during the pandemic. For a guy vilified and refused visas for this country, the guy is a legend.
I'm not too worried - we can potentially play first 11 against Villa on Sunday, 2nd string against Leicester on Tuesday and first 11 against Liverpool on Thursday. Throwing the Leicester game may have the added benefit of keeping Liverpool/Chelsea out of the top 4 (although obviously we'd hope our 2nd string get the job done and win it anyway).
We'll need maybe 4-6 more points to secure 2nd place. We can surely get that in the games against Villa, Fulham and Wolves. If we drop the ball against Villa then maybe panic will set in.
We'll need maybe 4-6 more points to secure 2nd place. We can surely get that in the games against Villa, Fulham and Wolves. If we drop the ball against Villa then maybe panic will set in.
City's owners are worse than the Glazers?
Hahahahahaha now I know you're on the wind up.
You have to play a qualifying game for CL if you finish 4th no?
2nd vs 3rd is irrelevant if we've got a final to prepare for, I'd rest players agaisnt Wolves providing top 3 is secured.
Chelsea as well, ask Chelsea fans here how bad they think their owners are.
But people who supported the protests are complaining about the fixtures and it’s like the driver who deliberately crashed into your house and later complains when you get fired for not showing up at work. Sure, the players shouldn’t be punished but there’s some irony when the protesters blame the FA or West Brom who don’t want to reschedule their games.
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What actual damage have they caused, though?
Yes, £1.5bn has gone but we've still spent nearly £1bn in transfers in the last eight years. The only thing I could see that money going on would be OT. Maybe that's where our anger should be aimed, make them better owners by spending on infrastructure. I can't see anyone forking out £4bn for the club and investing £300m or £400m on OT on top of that.
No got scraped a while ago
People should stop interacting with someone who's clearly wumming, that or woefully ignorant.
There you go. You answered your own question!
The what actual damage have the Glazers caused is a Monty Python like comment.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
Ole needs to learn something revolutionary in football. Its called squad rotation.
I'd play the likes of DVB/ Telles/ Williams et Al vs Leicester, as its slap bang in the middle of the close run fixtures and we are fairly sure of top 4
Try and get the Villa game won early, then rest Bruno/ Cavani/ Shaw.
Go full strength vs Liverpool, as it's Liverpool and try and dent their chance of top 4
Not sure re Fulham and Wolves as long as top 4 is secured maybe give one half in each games to those who must not miss the final eg Cavani, Shaw, Bruno
Try and get the Villa game won early, then rest Bruno/ Cavani/ Shaw.
Go full strength vs Liverpool, as it's Liverpool and try and dent their chance of top 4
Not sure re Fulham and Wolves as long as top 4 is secured maybe give one half in each games to those who must not miss the final eg Cavani, Shaw, Bruno
It is unheard of and a crazy schedule, but personally......I quite like it.
Lest face it all we are playing for is second place, a top four finish is pretty much done. 2nd or 4th...little difference to me.
With so many games, Ole has to use the squad and when he has rotated players so far, the youngsters....mainly are just getting on the bench, we havent seen much of them. I am hoping we get to see a bit more of some of the youngsters that have got a few minutes and maybe even the likes of Elanga and Mjebri.....the one big game for me is Liverpool, 3 points may end there cl hopes
Lest face it all we are playing for is second place, a top four finish is pretty much done. 2nd or 4th...little difference to me.
With so many games, Ole has to use the squad and when he has rotated players so far, the youngsters....mainly are just getting on the bench, we havent seen much of them. I am hoping we get to see a bit more of some of the youngsters that have got a few minutes and maybe even the likes of Elanga and Mjebri.....the one big game for me is Liverpool, 3 points may end there cl hopes
Watching how complacent the players were tonight this could be a really bad week.
@giorno is that you mate?
All for this as long it doesnt risk our 2nd place.
Its 6 games in 17 days. And then 3, counting the game-day to the final.So 6 games in the 20 days before the Arsenal game (assuming we don’t spectacularly blow the game tomorrow of course) - that is crazy, but TBF looking at their fixtures Arsenal have 5 in that time.
We have a much harder last game of the season than them, but hopefully we’ll have top four secure by then, though that is less likely given the demands on the players by the extra game.
Still so much football for the players in such a time-frame given the season they’ve had already
I really hope Ole thinks like this but I'm quite sure he won't, its just not the Ole way....
If he does play the yongsters against Leicester could we get some punishment from the league doing that?
Got 90 yesterday. Didn’t do himself any favours.Finally Donny can get some minutes
Agree, im sure Ole want to do everything he can to get 2nd. For the progress and optics.
No, they cant punish us at all for that.
We’ve got one of the biggest squads in the league without throwing junior players under the bus. This is conceivably our second XI, not using our XI key players:
DDG
Williams Tuanzebe Bailly Telles
VDB Matic
Greenwood Mata (James)
(Martial)
That's not winning many games though is it? It's weak, it really is weak. Thus why people still arguing against signings like Sancho because "we're stacked already" are nuts.
My point was that if seasoned, second-string senior professionals looked so far off the pace against a motivated side, imagine how much harder it will be for “the kids”. Cries of “play the kids” are cliche for good reason.
The next week is for our senior squad to handle and for our key players to push themselves. They then get some time to recover for Fulham, when I expect us to aim to wrap up our league season with a very strong team in front of fans at Old Trafford. If second is then secured, we can use the Wolves match however we wish to prepare for the Europa final.
Lot of talk on here about ensuring 2nd place. I think places 2-4 are all the same. Get three points on Sunday and the league is over. Then it’s just about Gdańsk.