you couldnt help yourself, so you picked eventually the most exotic one in the whole draft?
I´d like to assit you, but you have to take a heavy lead.
Bela Guttmann said:
Manager draft
- Thread starter Annahnomoss
- Start date
love that quote. looking forward to learning about all of the old time managers. should be a good one.My favourite Bela Guttman quote:
"Not in one hundred years from now will
Benfica win the European Cup."
Curse still working.
"Not in one hundred years from now will
Benfica win the European Cup."
Curse still working.
Whats the time limit for each pick?
The question is, of course, what the feck is he wearing on his head?
Note the star of David on the shirt too - Hakoah was known as a Jewish team and was, sadly and predictably, shut down when Hitler decided to include his "Heimat" in the third Reich.
Guttmann never managed arguably the greatest...no, wait. I'll shut up about that.
Good question. @Annahnomoss the usual 8 hours?
None for the first round of picking managers, as long as the manager shows he's actually researching as it is too time consuming to put a deadline on. After that it will be 8 hours per pick.
Beavering away on this just now...
Take your time. I need more too as my original pick was not optiamal!
Yeah it doesn't seem fair to Skizzo that I get the first pick. I am actually willing to concede my first pick and let him pick ahead of me if possible. What's the advantage of him picking his manager first, if I can choose the same manager later and have first dibs on his player? Doesn't seem fair to me. @AnnahnomossOr, in other words, you will hate each others' guts throughout the drafting but as soon as one goes out the other will have a massive pool to improve from. Good gamble, and you pick first too!
Skizzo right now:
Message me...we can plan our picks accordingly
01. Harms - Trapattoni
02. Stobzilla - Cappello
03. Jayvin - Ancelotti
04. Paolo - LVG
05. Skizzo - Udo Lattek
06. MJJ - Lippi
07. Joga Bonito - Udo Lattek
08. Balu - Béla Guttmann
09. Raees - Del Bosque
10. Cutch - Alex Ferguson
11. Gio - Trapattoni
12. EAP -
13. TRV -
14. DanNistelrooy -
15. Annah -
16. Crappy -
Seriously, what the hell?
02. Stobzilla - Cappello
03. Jayvin - Ancelotti
04. Paolo - LVG
05. Skizzo - Udo Lattek
06. MJJ - Lippi
07. Joga Bonito - Udo Lattek
08. Balu - Béla Guttmann
09. Raees - Del Bosque
10. Cutch - Alex Ferguson
11. Gio - Trapattoni
12. EAP -
13. TRV -
14. DanNistelrooy -
15. Annah -
16. Crappy -
Seriously, what the hell?
There are plenty of managers who doesn't have the player pool to support two managers using him, all those picks would go to the person who picks them first so picking manager first is an advantage still.Yeah it doesn't seem fair to Skizzo that I get the first pick. I am actually willing to concede my first pick and let him pick ahead of me if possible. What's the advantage of him picking his manager first, if I can choose the same manager later and have first dibs on his player? Doesn't seem fair to me. @Annahnomoss
Then there is of course the fact that it follows the exact same balance as always, pick one has to wait for longer for the next pick so even if he gets the best first pick, he gets the worst second pick and so forth.
I pick Fabio Capello. Sorry @Stobzilla
01. Harms - Trapattoni
02. Stobzilla - Cappello
03. Jayvin - Ancelotti
04. Paolo - LVG
05. Skizzo - Udo Lattek
06. MJJ - Lippi
07. Joga Bonito - Udo Lattek
08. Balu - Béla Guttmann
09. Raees - Del Bosque
10. Cutch - Alex Ferguson
11. Gio - Trapattoni
12. EAP - Capello
13. TRV -
14. DanNistelrooy -
15. Annah -
16. Crappy -
@The Red Viper
01. Harms - Trapattoni
02. Stobzilla - Cappello
03. Jayvin - Ancelotti
04. Paolo - LVG
05. Skizzo - Udo Lattek
06. MJJ - Lippi
07. Joga Bonito - Udo Lattek
08. Balu - Béla Guttmann
09. Raees - Del Bosque
10. Cutch - Alex Ferguson
11. Gio - Trapattoni
12. EAP - Capello
13. TRV -
14. DanNistelrooy -
15. Annah -
16. Crappy -
@The Red Viper
I'm so jealous of crappy now
It is because the refinforcements are from national team they have managed. Though there are lots of successful managers, there are few who also have national team run out.Seriously, what the hell?
So either pick a manager who have both club+national record or share a manager who has a bigger team base, so if your counterpart gets eliminated you have good reinforcements too!
That's the thing - there are more than enough unpicked managers with a brilliant and big teams and I would've gladly pick them if my first choice would've been unavailable. I'm not complaining, it's part of the fan, obviously, but I certainly wasn't expecting this.
The real downside of this is that some of my favorites won't be picked (which is really strange). But maybe it's for the best, it's certainly gets more competitive that way, and less uber-teams from the start
P.S. being first really sucks
Reinforcements are from both club teams and national teams to clarify it. National teams are not eligible first round, but club teams remains eligible the entire draft.
@Annahnomoss - Referring to harms comment above, it would be nice, if managers (who picked first) are given an option to change their choice, provided someone down the line also picks the same manager.
We will discuss it after all the manager picks are done, the obvious rule would be that if you'd want to change your pick you couldn't go for a manager already picked. For me it sounds fine though and would just be positive.
Let's not change the rules midway. This is how all the non sense starts. As Balu said, last draft was great because we stuck to the rules as they were. Those who picked first knew the risks so should not get a second chance.
No changing rules now. No one could seriously expect to have Trapattoni's or Capello's playerpool for themselves? Those were always the obvious choices for 'sharing'.
Nah, rules are rules, your draft went so smoothly because you didn't change any, let's not start this now.
Say, if a Player X (a GOAT) but did not have a stellar season under the picked manager, how would the draft game work? Would he be considered as a GOAT and still be a match winner or because of a non stellar season would he be considered less effective?
Up for you to argue and I bet it will change in every single situation. If a player actually had a really poor season in an otherwise pretty well performing team - then that would be harder to turn around and blame on tactics than if the team in general player bad but the player was still the star above the rest etc.
I was wondering who was going to bite the bullet and pick the great man. You'll be like the Death Star from Star Wars in the first round, closing in on the nucleus of a great team with noone able to do a thing about it.
If no one else picks him, then yeah... Cutch pretty much gets a pass in the first round.
After that scope of improvement diminishes due to lack of NT management by Fergie. Infact hard to see any major improvements unless a certain player slips in first round itself.
What a fantastic idea for a draft, well done @Annahnomoss!
New job doesn't really allow me the time to take part in these drafts anymore but will definitely keep an eye out for the final teams and match ups - will make for some great reading!
New job doesn't really allow me the time to take part in these drafts anymore but will definitely keep an eye out for the final teams and match ups - will make for some great reading!
I was really unmotivated myself for a draft until this idea came up(sub consciously stolen from EAP). It is already really fun with all the research! We need you back sooner or later though so you may need to change job again.
I am a bit gutted that I can't really take part anymore, the ideas recently have been great. To be fair though, the standard of games and write ups has really gone up since I last played too - very in depth and can make for great reading. Not sure I'd be able to compete!
I am a bit gutted that I can't really take part anymore, the ideas recently have been great. To be fair though, the standard of games and write ups has really gone up since I last played too - very in depth and can make for great reading. Not sure I'd be able to compete!
half of that is just anto.I'm gonna have to back out lads. Sorry.
I think @AngeloHenriquez wanted to take part if you haven't found a replacement yet
I haven't really looked at who played uner him, but Scotland had some great players around the 1986 period where Fergie managed them. A Keane/Souness midfield would kick the shite out of any tiki-taka unit ever assembled
.I was just joking around. It really is your idea as the multiple people can choose same managers can be chosen, national teams as reinforcements etc are vintage classic! All yours, mate!
I haven't really looked at who played uner him, but Scotland had some great players around the 1986 period where Fergie managed them. A Keane/Souness midfield would kick the shite out of any tiki-taka unit ever assembled
Scholes and Captain Marvel over Souness. Souness was a great player and maybe on par/slightly better than Robson but you gotta go for Robbo due to their respective club allegiances on a vote-based game like this.Neither.
................RvN....................
.........CR7.......Rooney...........
....Ince...Carrick...Keane........
.Irwin.....Vidic.....Rio....Neville...
Just for laughs!
................RvN....................
.........CR7.......Rooney...........
....Ince...Carrick...Keane........
.Irwin.....Vidic.....Rio....Neville...
Just for laughs!