Inigo Montoya
Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!
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That's an insult to granniesTwo grannies going at it with handbags
That's an insult to granniesTwo grannies going at it with handbags
Good to hear the change in synergy. Also Madrid and Dortmund acted decently during negotiations this time. A sharp contrast with petty Dortmund, last Summer.Transfer window podcast: Duncan Castles says the speed of United's incomings is far greater than it has been in recent seasons.
And he credits both Murtough and former midfielder Fletcher for being influential in getting deals done.
"You look at what they're doing in the transfer market, there is a significant difference this summer in the speed of which they're operating," Castles said on the Transfer Window podcast.
"I think a lot of that comes down to the change in structure at the club, with John Murtough and Darren Fletcher handed roles where they do a lot of the day-to-day work in preparing deals and getting deals in place before final negotiations are done elsewhere and before the Glazers sign off on them.
Mark Ogden: "Murtough and Fletcher have taken much of the heavy lifting away from Woodward"
https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-...-deals?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true
James Ducker: "Matt Judge, United’s director of football negotiations, drove the process with a keen, sharp eye and a presentation to the Varane camp by football director John Murtough and technical director Darren Fletcher about the culture and philosophy of the club, their plans and what they could offer the player was said to be persuasive and impressive".
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...utd-snared-raphael-varane-decade-making/?s=09
That's an insult to grannies
Are you Martinez’s agent?Time to create the Martinez presentation.
If they sign him this summer Murtough deserves a pay rise already.
Wish I was. Guaranteed earnings for the next decade....Are you Martinez’s agent?
"You're not trying for psych pension, you really are crazy Ole"Everytime I see his name, I always instantly picture Danny Glover in Letgal Weapon, with his classic "I'm getting too old for this sh*t", whilst signing up Sancho and Varane.
Even though he's not even been in the job a year
Fair playWish I was. Guaranteed earnings for the next decade....
But but… Fletcher has no experience, he’s another ‘job for the boys’ appointment. They’re all just Woody’s matesIt seems like we’ve got a better handle on the PR as well as the transfers these days
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This guy is supposedly highly rated. Classes of Sancho, Garcia and what’s his name on loan at Milan. City’s youth recruitment was/is great but they need to stop buying everything short term for it to actually work in the first team.Tweet
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More internal appointments
This is what the PR is most likely countering. Howson was saying it’s woody and judge running these transfers this summer, they are just a lot more experienced now. Also having extra help from Fletcher and Murtough is going to be handy. It’s the way it should be. Nice smooth hand off. It’s good to see us making consistently solid decisionsBut but… Fletcher has no experience, he’s another ‘job for the boys’ appointment. They’re all just Woody’s mates
And when we combine this tweet with what Evra said about how we previously handled it, we can see what the massive changes and improvement here. There is proper strategy and plan to sign player now and it's all started after we made Murtough as DoF and Fletcher as the technical director.Tweet
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Exactly what I was thinking. There’s clearly been a PR reaction to how badly the running of the club has looked for the last few years. These reports seem desperate to create a picture of a collection of slick operators in the transfer market pulling out all the stops, with the perennial transfer klutz, Ed even getting a mention. Nothing to do with, COVID, big European clubs going to ground or the mass protests a few months ago.It seems like we’ve got a better handle on the PR as well as the transfers these days
One would hope these things would have changed for the better organically but the protests must have majorly put the shits up them. When there’s English reporters flying out to America to doorstep you you know things have gotten out of handExactly what I was thinking. There’s clearly been a PR reaction to how badly the running of the club has looked for the last few years. These reports seem desperate to create a picture of a collection of slick operators in the transfer market pulling out all the stops, with the perennial transfer klutz, Ed even getting a mention. Nothing to do with, COVID, big European clubs going to ground or the mass protests a few months ago.
If there's any truth to this at all, it would seem a football man talking to a football man has won the day. Fletcher also strikes me as a bright one.Tweet
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I'd be inclined to disagree.Or Doctor Dwayne for that matter.
Fletcher is fantastic and well worth listening to any time he’s on a podcast or whatever. Very insightful, intelligent, and well spoken. Delighted he’s back at the club.If there's any truth to this at all, it would seem a football man talking to a football man has won the day. Fletcher also strikes me as a bright one.
Imagine if we have Murtough and Fletcher last season and speak to Cavani to sell him the move to Old Trafford. We would have got him few weeks or even a month before the season started as Cavani would have been convinced with the project which lead him to lower his demand.Ed Woodward continued negotiations with Real Madrid for Raphael Varane during a family holiday, while John Murtough and Darren Fletcher spoke to Varane to sell him the move to Old Trafford. Varane was particularly swayed by Fletcher
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Fletcher comes across as bright, articulate and objective, and his spending the last part of his playing career at unglamorous clubs won’t have done him any harm. I have to say I’m surprised (and delighted) that he seems to have made such an impact so soon though.But but… Fletcher has no experience, he’s another ‘job for the boys’ appointment. They’re all just Woody’s mates
I have no doubt of that. But all the noise suggests Woodward was involved a lot this summer and I'm fine with that. I have no doubt Murtough and Fletcher were too but it's fine Judge and Woodward doing the heavy lifting in the power transfer.It's normal for Woodward to be in contact with Jose Angel Sanchez due to both men being the CEO's of the clubs. Woodward was also in contact with Watzke for the Sancho deal which was reported on, which again is normal due to the positions they hold at the club. Michael Zorc is the Sporting director at Dortmund and it's he and the like of Sebastian Kehl who Murtough and Fletcher were likely in contact with.
Probably why he's joined us. Must be disheartening finding all these gems only to have Pep splash another few hundred million instead of playing any of them.This guy is supposedly highly rated. Classes of Sancho, Garcia and what’s his name on loan at Milan. City’s youth recruitment was/is great but they need to stop buying everything short term for it to actually work in the first team.
Sancho and Varane is a very good start from Murtaugh and Fletcher. Can they ship some deadwood as well?
I didn't jump on the bandwagon when we signed Sancho or Varane, nor will I be criticising now. Such appointments are about more than one or two transfer windows.Not looking much different in the end is it?
The issue is that it is realistic for the clubs that we're supposed to compete with. So we have to find a way to improve the starting 11 more. Without doing that, it's a failure of everyone involved.I maintain that Sancho and Varane is a good window.
Three starters in one window (despite needed) was never realistic.
We signed Sancho & Varane and you are saying it's not looking much different?Not looking much different in the end is it?
They don’t release the funds. Neither did Woodward, in truth.Not looking much different in the end is it?
Yeah we got them but then it didn't take much longer than match day 2 to confirm what we have always known - that the midfield is our Achille's heel and we cost us the chance to compete for trophies again.We signed Sancho & Varane and you are saying it's not looking much different?
Thats BS. Midfield needs an upgrade but RW and CB were clearly higher priority.Yeah we got them but then it didn't take much longer than match day 2 to confirm what we have always known - that the midfield is our Achille's heel and we cost us the chance to compete for trophies again.