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Manchester United Vs PSG - International Champions Cup (OP Updated)
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Exactly and thats whats worrying, last season, was the same, we just passed the ball around in useless areas, and creating next to nothing going forward, and that was evident again, seems like LVG picks players who will follow his philosophy of pass but dont create anything
Darmian and Shaw were the only decent performances. Looked pretty lifeless going forward and some of the selections are worrying going into the first game.
I dont think we (fans) learnt anything we didnt already know tbh but Im hoping LVG did:
-We need a CB (and not Blind)
-We need a striker to challenge Rooney
-We need a balance in midfield (Basti + Carrick doesnt work)
-We need to play players in their own freakin positions
Pretty much what we knew before the game but what this game showed.
-We need a CB (and not Blind)
-We need a striker to challenge Rooney
-We need a balance in midfield (Basti + Carrick doesnt work)
-We need to play players in their own freakin positions
Pretty much what we knew before the game but what this game showed.
Not according to some, they will have you believe a friendly don't mean nothing!
Yes, but when im tired I dont try to run into a crowded area away from goal.
And tbh it wasnt the first time in the match he did it.
In general, he needs to pass it quicker at times.
Agreed, need Herrera in that midfield as well.
Darmian. Good night.
I was dozing for a good chunk of the second half, managed to maintain focus only when Pereira and Lingard were on.
Appreciated, mate.
I know it is. But quite disappointing none the less. I wish he's better in the season.
I do, regularly. It's an easier thought process than being aware of and selecting a pass. You just instinctively run and almost always end up losing the ball.
I thought he passed quickly and well in the first half. A few times his passes were too crisp and Rooney wasn't quite up to pace with him.
Looks like we'll be experimenting till December.....again.
This. I have a feeling our fullbacks are going to be the most exciting thing we have to watch this season!
Same issues with Young-Depay-Mata as last game. Hopefully we learn a lesson from this but knowing LVG he's more stubborn than so.
It's a pre-season friendly. Am pretty sure LvG was trying to figure out what not to do as well, so he'll experiment a bit with the team. The fact that Smalling didn't start, is an indicator this isn't our full starting line-up. I'm expecting Herrera to feature too. After a game like this, we'll probably learn a lot more about what to work on in the training sessions over the next 9 days.
That being said, I'm hoping LvG will give players like Pereira real opportunities this season. I think he's the real deal, and should even start a few games. We should sign him on a nice, long contract asap.
That being said, I'm hoping LvG will give players like Pereira real opportunities this season. I think he's the real deal, and should even start a few games. We should sign him on a nice, long contract asap.
Lol. Over reaction is one. You have taken it to another level
Someone's always going to over the top to seek attention.Lol. Over reaction is one. You have taken it to another level
is LvG going to do this every season while he's here? Buy talented players and then play them out of position (ADM as winger isntead fo CM shuttler now Depay as 2nd striker instead of goalscoring winger/wide forward) while not playing what is obviously our strongest CM (no Herrera at all, no schneiderlin until we're already down 2) and defence (no Smalling, Blind as a CB??! JONES???) until we lose a bunch of points in the first month? THEN...he finally does what is so obvious and we play catch up...
Out of curiosity, how did Schweinsteiger do? I'm presuming it was a poor team performance by the comments here - but was he a bright spark?
Our strongest area, midfield, did little today. Neither helped much in attack, nor shielded the defense well. Bastian+Carrick midfield combo is too static. LvG set the team with the same idea as before: to keep the ball and avoid any counter attacks, however,PSG's movement was much better, passes are faster and direct and they easily withstood our so-called "pressing". Physically the French team were much stronger too. It appears to me that LvG wants to create a team that would be a cross of Arsenal and Barca, however today we played like a prematurily born love child of these two teams.
Thanks for that. Hopefully that is exactly the idea behind the selections and it makes me more optimistic about next weekend.
Played some good passes, but not exactly a bright spark. We just really weren't that creative overall.
Bit shit that and slightly worrying despite only preseason. They looked so comfortable even in first half, defended well even when we were playing decent stuff. Shut up shop after and we had no answer and like last season no penetration or pace when coming up against a strong back line and DM. The team will get better of course and Darmian is a real positive. Still not sure Rooney can lead us to future titles seems so be getting slower and his first touch worse as each season goes by also Blind and Jones surely cannot be our starting pair. Crazy if LvG thinks they can cope as for me it's the worst option we have. Also hoping Pereira gets more minutes, cracking little player.
To be honest, he's a player I've always rated and liked so was annoyed that he ended up with United. Sure, he's older.. but that experience, attitude and intelligence never disappears. I think he'll be an attribute for you this season, unlike some of the other players who may cower if times are hard.
looks a bit unfit tbh
Sat deep with Carrick and kept the ball without any penetration or any crucial passed in the final third. Only bright sparks were Darmian, Shaw and Depay to an extent.
We looked decent before their goals, but after they just shut the game down. Their pressing in the first half was very impressive.
I don't mind him, but it was far easier knowing that the boss knew what he was doing. I have no faith in anyone after Moyes.No worries Spurs just lost to a club that was playing their first and last match together as a group.
call it overreaction I call it hyperbole but Rooney was probably the worst player on tour and he's nowhere near top club striker, he should be impact striker, going fresh from the bench, his agility is absolutely disastrous let alone his touch which is hit or miss but rather mess..Lol. Over reaction is one. You have taken it to another level
we need half decent striker so Rooney's finally benched
Did really well in the first half I thought, and we were much better overall apart from Blind/Jones/De Gea who were awful and the reason for the goals. We lost any bit of attacking impetus we had after half time, partly because he was gone I think.
Sucked. It did. Not going to lose my shit over a preseason game. Hope it gets better when things get serious
Carrick and Schweiny both take a few games to start playing properly. So when paired together today, they didn't offer too much.
He didn't even try another formation at all. Logic will tell you if you've signed new players and you want them to get settled quickly, you play them in a system you plan to use for most of the season. What's the point of having them play this formation so much if we won't use it?
He played the pass for Rooney to run behind, Rooney cut it back to Depay who hit it first time. He should have taken a touch.
Yes forgot that one.
Haha. Those pesky Americans. Don't worry though - Spurs will take them in American Football soon when their plan to become an NFL franchise because they're crap at football takes hold.
Maybe he knows the other formation works so he is trying something else? I dont know, nothing seems to make sense.
Few things here. I think we're underestimating what can be worked on on the training ground. Glamorous pre-season matches can be fun, but it's mostly a PR affair. If LvG has his way, we probably won't even be in this tournament.
And also, let's not forget we have 4 new potential starting players to bed in. Any team is going to struggle with that. PSG is pretty much unchanged from the last season thanks to FFP rules, they'd naturally look more cohesive. It was always going to be a tricky start to the season for us, and we shouldn't expect any less than that.
And also, let's not forget we have 4 new potential starting players to bed in. Any team is going to struggle with that. PSG is pretty much unchanged from the last season thanks to FFP rules, they'd naturally look more cohesive. It was always going to be a tricky start to the season for us, and we shouldn't expect any less than that.